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On December 31 2013 21:02 Erasme wrote:
winning the lane isnt enough, you have to be useful beyond that and apply pressure. Most of the time people lose because they ignore a split pusher or the ennemy jungle
Wait, so you are telling me I shouldn't win games where inlet alch AFK farm for 40 minutes? Even if I won my lane? That's crazy!
This is a lot of the problems with pub games and ranked. I can't tell you the number of games I have played where I try to convince people to gank Faceless in the jungle and they respond "why? He only has a battle fury."
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On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way.
1. i didnt flame you
2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games
3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything
maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends
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On January 01 2014 00:23 MotherOfRunes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way. 1. i didnt flame you 2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games 3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends
Sorry but I much prefer people like him than people who trust Valve completely and wholly, usually because they got lucky and got a high MMR. Who in their right mind says matchmaking is completely fine when you have someone with 2 games, both of which were lost, paired with Dendi?
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On January 01 2014 00:50 juracule wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 00:23 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way. 1. i didnt flame you 2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games 3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends Sorry but I much prefer people like him than people who trust Valve completely and wholly, usually because they got lucky and got a high MMR. Who in their right mind says matchmaking is completely fine when you have someone with 2 games, both of which were lost, paired with Dendi?
yeah right the system doesnt work for bad people since they are underrated by valve and it doesnt work for the good cause most of them just got lucky eh??? jesus christ you people....holy shit
nobody here trusts valve blindly...but its the best system u can get and if you are good you will get a good rating and you will be matched with good people...the thing is most people dont realize that you have idiots and bad gamesd IN EVERY pool...period....
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On January 01 2014 00:50 juracule wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 00:23 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way. 1. i didnt flame you 2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games 3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends Sorry but I much prefer people like him than people who trust Valve completely and wholly, usually because they got lucky and got a high MMR. Who in their right mind says matchmaking is completely fine when you have someone with 2 games, both of which were lost, paired with Dendi?
Can you show an example of this actually happening?
And I hope you won't link some dotabuff of months ago when there was a matchmaking bug due to resetting of MMR.
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On January 01 2014 00:50 juracule wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 00:23 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way. 1. i didnt flame you 2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games 3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends Sorry but I much prefer people like him than people who trust Valve completely and wholly, usually because they got lucky and got a high MMR. Who in their right mind says matchmaking is completely fine when you have someone with 2 games, both of which were lost, paired with Dendi?
this is pure gold, so good
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On January 01 2014 00:50 juracule wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 00:23 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way. 1. i didnt flame you 2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games 3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends Sorry but I much prefer people like him than people who trust Valve completely and wholly, usually because they got lucky and got a high MMR. Who in their right mind says matchmaking is completely fine when you have someone with 2 games, both of which were lost, paired with Dendi?
Classic. Valve fucked up and didn't put me in the rift league with all the good players. Classic in every way.
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I'm just waiting for the long run average to start kicking in and I start winning more than 20% of my games.
But it sucks for now.
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On January 01 2014 00:56 MotherOfRunes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 00:50 juracule wrote:On January 01 2014 00:23 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way. 1. i didnt flame you 2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games 3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends Sorry but I much prefer people like him than people who trust Valve completely and wholly, usually because they got lucky and got a high MMR. Who in their right mind says matchmaking is completely fine when you have someone with 2 games, both of which were lost, paired with Dendi? yeah right the system doesnt work for bad people since they are underrated by valve and it doesnt work for the good cause most of them just got lucky eh??? jesus christ you people....holy shit nobody here trusts valve blindly...but its the best system u can get and if you are good you will get a good rating and you will be matched with good people...the thing is most people dont realize that you have idiots and bad gamesd IN EVERY pool...period....
Agreed, bad games are in every range, but the question is how the total number of badgames is divived between the different ranges of mmr. Like, im having really really bad games lately in low mmr, this was less the case in the first 2 weeks after the update. Maybe some bmers and ragequiters are lowered in mmr or something like that. Dota2 is less fun now in my mmr range. I cant judge your experience in your mmr range but i can judge mine. I think valve is the only one who could give some insight because they have data on the big picture...
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On January 01 2014 01:38 Comeh wrote:
I'm just waiting for the long run average to start kicking in and I start winning more than 20% of my games.
But it sucks for now.
but maybe if you play with bad players you become yourself bad and this become your level ? Or maybe before you were on a long winning streak so you were above your 'true' level
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On January 01 2014 01:46 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 01:38 Comeh wrote:
I'm just waiting for the long run average to start kicking in and I start winning more than 20% of my games.
But it sucks for now. but maybe if you play with bad players you become yourself bad and this become your level ? Or maybe before you were on a long winning streak so you were above your 'true' level
The first part is almost definitely true.
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Oppa dendi. Matchmaking is fine, you just get people a lot better than you or worse than you sometimes.
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On January 01 2014 01:23 Andre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 00:50 juracule wrote:On January 01 2014 00:23 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:46 SS.Shark wrote:On December 31 2013 23:36 MotherOfRunes wrote:On December 31 2013 23:30 SS.Shark wrote:
This MMR is the biggest joke IMO. How can you match people with 200 wins (so probably less than 500 matches overall) with people that have 700-800-900 wins (so probably around 1500 matches or more matches played). Just because your MMR is around the same does that mean you are in the same "league" ? Thats complete bs and if volvo things this is the way to make things more interesting well then, FU. Ill stick to pubs where at least you queue with people that have the same number of matches played and they know how to give a tree or what Bane's 3rd spell is doing. how about its guys like you who have to stop BSing instead of valve? dude come on wins MEAN NOTHING. peopple with 200 wins also could ahve 5000 games in dota 1. there are people with 1000wins in dota 2 but never have played fucking dota 1 and are still uber-scrubs. u say you go abck to pubs?? in these pubs (sidenote:ranked is still pub) THE SAME rating shit is going on in the background. how about stop whining over random stuff? You clearly didn't read my post yet you start flaming. Are you one of those "mid or feed" ? Let me brake it down for ya cupcake : 1. In pubs you get to queue with people who have a similar NUMBER OF MATCHES PLAYED where a very realistic expectation is that people have a better understanding of farming, split pushing, different roles, warding, counter warding, etc 2. Dota1 is not Dota2 and viceversa. Period. So having 1023912039102 games in DOTA1 doesnt mean automatically you'll be as skilled or as experienced or as versed in DOTA2 as you were in DOTA1. It just doesnt work that way. 1. i didnt flame you 2. in "pubs" you get matched with people who have the same HIDDEN rating (YES a rating exactly as your ranked rating) and not who have the same number of games 3. i didnt quote all of you post because i stopped reading after your second point since it disqualified you completly. and i wont continue this shit. think whatever you want but erasme nailed it very simple and accurate maybe u believe him instead of me. i dont fucking care since you are just one of those thousands of whiners who wont accept the skill pool they play in because they overrate theirselves. making their lives easy by just blaming valve for everything maybe go write BlitzerSC and ask him to play with you, i bet you would be good friends Sorry but I much prefer people like him than people who trust Valve completely and wholly, usually because they got lucky and got a high MMR. Who in their right mind says matchmaking is completely fine when you have someone with 2 games, both of which were lost, paired with Dendi? Can you show an example of this actually happening? And I hope you won't link some dotabuff of months ago when there was a matchmaking bug due to resetting of MMR.
Look for it yourself, last time I linked something here I got banned. Dendi got matched with a 0 wins - 2 losses player. You can find this on dota.dev among others.
Even if that particular event was a bug, that shows that matchmaking is not as picture-perfect as many of you want to make it seem.
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Bad, idiotic games happen at every skill level. I watch a 4500 MMR buddy play a game where they took rosh, but their carries had no open slots. They stood there for about 16 seconds before the enemy storm jumped in a stool ageis. My buddy was playing AA and just messaged me saying "sign".
Your MMR has nothing to do with shitty games.
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The way Valve calculates MMR isn't terrible by any means, but it definitely isn't that good either. No one here can argue that when you have better players on your team you should be able to win more games. 1 very small example, if you get ganked and get 2 immediate TP's compared to you getting ganked and every one on your team sitting in their lane, not pushing, while you die. C'mon now, how do you argue against that?
At the same time, there really is no better way to come up with individual player skill in a non-individual player game like DOTA than Valve is doing, so that's just what people have to live with unfortunately.
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On January 01 2014 02:32 MidgetExplosion wrote:
The way Valve calculates MMR isn't terrible by any means, but it definitely isn't that good either. No one here can argue that when you have better players on your team you should be able to win more games. 1 very small example, if you get ganked and get 2 immediate TP's compared to you getting ganked and every one on your team sitting in their lane, not pushing, while you die. C'mon now, how do you argue against that?
At the same time, there really is no better way to come up with individual player skill in a non-individual player game like DOTA than Valve is doing, so that's just what people have to live with unfortunately.
If your opponents are just as shitty, then the game is fine. If they gave you "better", your opponents would be better too and you would get rocked just as hard.
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Does anyone know what the Bell Curve is right now for MMR? I have asked poeple that I run into during games, but they all say that the quoted distributions which Vaule used to roll out the ranked MMR are wrong. I get responses like, Pro players have 4-5k (and up) MMR so how can 3.2k still be top 90%?
Are these numbers still right?
5% 1100
10% 1500
25% 2000
50% 2250
75% 2731
90% 3200
95% 3900
99% 4100
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On January 01 2014 03:04 jyuj wrote:
Does anyone know what the Bell Curve is right now for MMR? I have asked poeple that I run into during games, but they all say that the quoted distributions which Vaule used to roll out the ranked MMR are wrong. I get responses like, Pro players have 4-5k (and up) MMR so how can 3.2k still be top 90%?
Are these numbers still right?
5% 1100
10% 1500
25% 2000
50% 2250
75% 2731
90% 3200
95% 3900
99% 4100
Those numbers only applied to unranked matchmaking. For ranked, you have to consider that it's a different player pool. Only players with more than the level equivalent of 150 games can play, and the concept of ranked probably scares off a good number of low-skill or casual-minded players. The curve almost certainly shifts to the right, but nobody is going to be able to verify except Valve.
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On January 01 2014 03:04 jyuj wrote:
Does anyone know what the Bell Curve is right now for MMR? I have asked poeple that I run into during games, but they all say that the quoted distributions which Vaule used to roll out the ranked MMR are wrong. I get responses like, Pro players have 4-5k (and up) MMR so how can 3.2k still be top 90%?
Are these numbers still right?
5% 1100
10% 1500
25% 2000
50% 2250
75% 2731
90% 3200
95% 3900
99% 4100
Couple pages back I linked to a page where someone had attempted to make a bell curve based on assumptions, among another things. I'm not sure about that though, haven't visited the page again in some time.
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I got solo queue from 3500 to 4200 and higher I go more imbalanced the games are. In last 10 games I had only 1 that went over 40 minutes and 5 under 28 minutes. It's just stomps by stacks on one team who are far better coordinated than stacks on the other team. And me in the middle hoping that good stacks or on my side. It's really not fun at all 
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