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On January 01 2014 06:04 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:I got solo queue from 3500 to 4200 and higher I go more imbalanced the games are. In last 10 games I had only 1 that went over 40 minutes and 5 under 28 minutes. It's just stomps by stacks on one team who are far better coordinates than stacks on the other team. And me in the middle hoping that good stacks or on my side. It's really not fun at all 
Probably just your bad luck. I've played all my games in 4080 - 4385 MMR and it's not that imbalanced. Games that are, are usually because of picks (no1 wants to play support etc.)
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Anyone have any idea if valve changed the match-finding algorithm recently? Last week solo queuing at ~5.5k mmr I would need to wait typically 20-50 minutes to find a game on USeast (if not enough high mmr playesr were searching I would not find a game.) Recently, i've suddenly been finding games much quicker, but there seems to be a much, much more variance in skill....has valve made any statement about this??? Or have people noticed a similar trend? To be honest I much preferred waiting for a high-skill game than having a huge skill disparity between players in the same game..
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On January 01 2014 18:37 -FmP- wrote:
Anyone have any idea if valve changed the match-finding algorithm recently? Last week solo queuing at ~5.5k mmr I would need to wait typically 20-50 minutes to find a game on USeast (if not enough high mmr playesr were searching I would not find a game.) Recently, i've suddenly been finding games much quicker, but there seems to be a much, much more variance in skill....has valve made any statement about this??? Or have people noticed a similar trend? To be honest I much preferred waiting for a high-skill game than having a huge skill disparity between players in the same game..
Yeah there was definitely a change. Everyone above 5.3/5.4k has noticed it.
edit: are you that guy who plays TA all the time? I've been wrecked in MM a few times by your TA, lol 
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yeah, I'm quite surprised how you can lose 10 games in a row and end up with a mmr of 4.6k. Logic :/
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On January 01 2014 22:45 energeticx wrote:yeah, I'm quite surprised how you can lose 10 games in a row and end up with a mmr of 4.6k. Logic :/
He already had a high unranked MMR with low uncertainty. Logic 
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I wish i was tryharding prior ranked and not randoming in 90% of my games just because its fun and moar gold . Shoulda cared more if i actually win games instead " eh who fucking cares its not like there is ladder atm if i lose or not " :p
Tempted to start playing on my smurf account to see what rank i could get compared to main acc but that will take way too much time.
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I just got +4 rating from some game where I was a feeder rubick.
What a gain.
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On January 01 2014 23:32 Andre wrote:
I just got +4 rating from some game where I was a feeder rubick.
What a gain.
Were you playing solo or in a party?
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On January 01 2014 22:45 energeticx wrote:yeah, I'm quite surprised how you can lose 10 games in a row and end up with a mmr of 4.6k. Logic :/
me and my friend went 2-8 in team and ended up 5.4k ._. we did way better after the initial 10 games though, we just played like shit then.
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On January 02 2014 00:09 cecek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 23:32 Andre wrote:
I just got +4 rating from some game where I was a feeder rubick.
What a gain. Were you playing solo or in a party?
Solo. Why?
It's a bit surprising to me, I think only explanation is that in-game stats can have an impact on how much mmr you get..at least some times.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. People say that the only thing that matters is winning and losing, because every time you're in a party, all the party members lose/win the same amount of points. Maybe that's how the system is working - it treats a party of players as one, so it gives the same points to everybody. But if you're solo, it could be possible that you get different points depending how you do in the match.
Did anyone try asking a random guy they queued with how many points he won/lost after a ranked match and comparing it to his?
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On January 02 2014 00:33 Andre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:09 cecek wrote:On January 01 2014 23:32 Andre wrote:
I just got +4 rating from some game where I was a feeder rubick.
What a gain. Were you playing solo or in a party? Solo. Why? It's a bit surprising to me, I think only explanation is that in-game stats can have an impact on how much mmr you get..at least some times.
they probably didn't.. more likely than not this +4 mmr game you had was really short
i've had a couple wins where i only got like 5 points and they were all ~20min games so games that were fast stomps seem to give less points
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On January 02 2014 00:33 Andre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:09 cecek wrote:On January 01 2014 23:32 Andre wrote:
I just got +4 rating from some game where I was a feeder rubick.
What a gain. Were you playing solo or in a party? Solo. Why? It's a bit surprising to me, I think only explanation is that in-game stats can have an impact on how much mmr you get..at least some times.
I've seen people like Sneyking get +1 points when they play, regardless of how well they do so it might just be that you had a much higher MMR than that team and were expected to win.
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I've had huge differences in points gained by members of my party when our uncertainty was high. Lately we've all received the same amount though.
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On January 02 2014 00:40 iv~nk~j wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:33 Andre wrote:On January 02 2014 00:09 cecek wrote:On January 01 2014 23:32 Andre wrote:
I just got +4 rating from some game where I was a feeder rubick.
What a gain. Were you playing solo or in a party? Solo. Why? It's a bit surprising to me, I think only explanation is that in-game stats can have an impact on how much mmr you get..at least some times. they probably didn't.. more likely than not this +4 mmr game you had was really short i've had a couple wins where i only got like 5 points and they were all ~20min games so games that were fast stomps seem to give less points
Yes, I've heard of people getting 5-10 points from short games(or when people dc'd). But this game I played was like 50 min long.
And I'm pretty sure I wasn't above others, I felt like the weakest player on the team/game. Had very bad kda and was poor.
That leads me to believe there are other factors influencing rating gain instead of just win&loss.
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On January 02 2014 01:42 Andre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 00:40 iv~nk~j wrote:On January 02 2014 00:33 Andre wrote:On January 02 2014 00:09 cecek wrote:On January 01 2014 23:32 Andre wrote:
I just got +4 rating from some game where I was a feeder rubick.
What a gain. Were you playing solo or in a party? Solo. Why? It's a bit surprising to me, I think only explanation is that in-game stats can have an impact on how much mmr you get..at least some times. they probably didn't.. more likely than not this +4 mmr game you had was really short i've had a couple wins where i only got like 5 points and they were all ~20min games so games that were fast stomps seem to give less points Yes, I've heard of people getting 5-10 points from short games(or when people dc'd). But this game I played was like 50 min long. And I'm pretty sure I wasn't above others, I felt like the weakest player on the team/game. Had very bad kda and was poor. That leads me to believe there are other factors influencing rating gain instead of just win&loss.
How much u spend maybe?
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Ten feels like a ridiculous amount of games to be placed. This shits been out for a couple weeks and I still havent done all 10 yet. Apparently I've done 7.
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On January 01 2014 18:45 TheEmulator wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 18:37 -FmP- wrote:
Anyone have any idea if valve changed the match-finding algorithm recently? Last week solo queuing at ~5.5k mmr I would need to wait typically 20-50 minutes to find a game on USeast (if not enough high mmr playesr were searching I would not find a game.) Recently, i've suddenly been finding games much quicker, but there seems to be a much, much more variance in skill....has valve made any statement about this??? Or have people noticed a similar trend? To be honest I much preferred waiting for a high-skill game than having a huge skill disparity between players in the same game.. Yeah there was definitely a change. Everyone above 5.3/5.4k has noticed it. edit: are you that guy who plays TA all the time? I've been wrecked in MM a few times by your TA, lol
Yes..haha I'm the TA player. What's your steam name? maybe it'll ring a bell. I really wish valve would make it more clear when they make changes to the MM....At least personally I've felt that this change has significantly impacted my games. Even on my 5.1kish account I've recently found myself getting matched with players in the low 4000s.
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On January 02 2014 05:25 -FmP- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 18:45 TheEmulator wrote:On January 01 2014 18:37 -FmP- wrote:
Anyone have any idea if valve changed the match-finding algorithm recently? Last week solo queuing at ~5.5k mmr I would need to wait typically 20-50 minutes to find a game on USeast (if not enough high mmr playesr were searching I would not find a game.) Recently, i've suddenly been finding games much quicker, but there seems to be a much, much more variance in skill....has valve made any statement about this??? Or have people noticed a similar trend? To be honest I much preferred waiting for a high-skill game than having a huge skill disparity between players in the same game.. Yeah there was definitely a change. Everyone above 5.3/5.4k has noticed it. edit: are you that guy who plays TA all the time? I've been wrecked in MM a few times by your TA, lol Yes..haha I'm the TA player. What's your steam name? maybe it'll ring a bell. I really wish valve would make it more clear when they make changes to the MM....At least personally I've felt that this change has significantly impacted my games. Even on my 5.1kish account I've recently found myself getting matched with players in the low 4000s.
How do you know their rank? Just asked them I guess?
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