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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
December 07 2013 10:10 GMT
#141
Don't care about seeing my number but a queue with people who are more tryhard could be nice since i'm a tryhard myself.
But again, don't give a rat's ass about the number, but good for people that do. Doesn't affect me one way or the other, i'm completely fine with a rating like this where it's only visible to friends and yourself.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
December 07 2013 10:11 GMT
#142
All hail Gaben
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
December 07 2013 10:14 GMT
#143
On December 07 2013 18:25 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 18:15 Laurens wrote:
On December 07 2013 17:28 TheEmulator wrote:
The most important thing (that is if ranked mmr is based off your normal mmr) is that a good player can't go play ranked on a new account and own the low ranks. Once he gets to 150 games he will be at a really high normal mmr, and will place higher initially when he enters ranked, instead of at the lower end.

edit: unless you purposefully lose 150 games in order to enter ranked at a low mmr. But then you're an idiot if you do that.


Are you sure ranked MMR will be based on normal MMR? The article doesn't hint that it will. I think it will just be the 10 placement games and everyone starts with a clean slate.

I'm not sure at all, that's why I said "that is if ranked mmr is based off your normal mmr".

I think it will be that way, or at least in my mind it makes the most sense. But I have no idea


I am getting this impression that everyone will have a clean start with ranked game because technically all the games we played are not ranked.

Matches played in normal matchmaking do not impact your ranked matchmaking MMR, and vice versa.

When you first start using ranked matchmaking, you will enter a calibration phase of 10 games. During this time, your ranked MMR will not be visible.


And that makes sense too, because what's the point if we used current mmr (which is a mess) as a baseline for ranked game's mmr :S


I am just so damn happy that we will get solo mmr, too many people just purposely stack with tryhards and brag about them mmr. And i hope they will include some sort of hero score too so people who can only play very few heroes will be noted too.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 07 2013 10:15 GMT
#144
On December 07 2013 18:40 Jehct wrote:
sounds like a pretty damn good way to handle it

i assume the 'keep profile private' hides the info from friends, too

wish all random was included though


all random seems too luck dependent for ranked when people are at least somewhat interested in playing to win.

I do love me some random draft though and think it's a reasonable mode for ranked play =(
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 10:20:24
December 07 2013 10:20 GMT
#145
i'll pick only Timbersaw the first 50 ranked games to make sure I get a good ELO
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 07 2013 10:24 GMT
#146
Finally the frustration of playing with lesser skilled teammates who feed the whole time will come to and end, hopefully. In my mind, this move is something they should have considered a long time ago.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
December 07 2013 10:39 GMT
#147
I don't even really care about it in the sense of 'feeling more motivated' or whatever, but it should hopefully stop people from throwing games on purpose because of random hissy fits, at least. One can always hope!
TimoS1703
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany250 Posts
December 07 2013 10:39 GMT
#148
How can anyone rage here? if you dont like the change,,, fine, actually nothing is changing for you then. I personally think the blog posts contains some great insight into the MM. Though my friends suffer from ladder anxiety, so I'm gonna have to keep my ranked games to a minimum i guess
cortx
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia16 Posts
December 07 2013 10:49 GMT
#149
I don't get how people can not like this update... This is the best news ever! This is more important than new heros or anything that's been released for ages in my opinion!

Having a rank and knowing the people around you will be great for the community! I'm always playing solo Q and hope that this allows me to link up with other players to form teams etc. I'd love to get into some experienced groups and this is a easy winner to make that possible!
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
December 07 2013 10:49 GMT
#150
On December 07 2013 19:39 Salazarz wrote:
I don't even really care about it in the sense of 'feeling more motivated' or whatever, but it should hopefully stop people from throwing games on purpose because of random hissy fits, at least. One can always hope!


Oh believe me, it will get worse.
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
December 07 2013 10:50 GMT
#151
Whoa cool been wait for that competitive edge and motivation SC gives me
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
cortx
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia16 Posts
December 07 2013 10:54 GMT
#152
On December 07 2013 19:14 BurningSera wrote:
And i hope they will include some sort of hero score too so people who can only play very few heroes will be noted too.


THIS.

Very interesting to see if any MMR calculations factor in role type, kill/death/assist ratio, limited hero pool etc etc.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
December 07 2013 10:58 GMT
#153
wont make a difference for me but I aint complaining
This is our town, scrub
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
December 07 2013 10:59 GMT
#154
On December 07 2013 18:45 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 17:56 toemn wrote:
Hope this comes before Christmas break. Gonna play ranked all day, post my score on every online forum there is and insult my friends for their low rating.
No seriously. Praise Valve for ignoring all the ignorant people and doing what they think is best for the game.

A week ago I got flame to death for this post:

Two steps in order to make Dota a 10/10 game:
- Region Locking
- Seperate ranking ladder


Such visionary. Wow. They didn't call it region locking explicitly but essentially that's what they are doing atleast for ranked mode.


How exactly is region locking beneficial for a game?

Unless you want to sell your shit multiple times (Blizzard) or your servers can't handle the population (Riot EU)?


because it sucks to have people in your game you can't communicate with that choose wrong servers on purpose to ruin everyones experience.
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
December 07 2013 11:00 GMT
#155
On December 07 2013 19:49 cortx wrote:
I don't get how people can not like this update... This is the best news ever! This is more important than new heros or anything that's been released for ages in my opinion!

Having a rank and knowing the people around you will be great for the community! I'm always playing solo Q and hope that this allows me to link up with other players to form teams etc. I'd love to get into some experienced groups and this is a easy winner to make that possible!


Having a ranked solo queue will not help you find a team. Finding a team to play with is about social networking and taking initiatives. Or luck. Id gladly be convinced otherwise but I just don't see it.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 07 2013 11:14 GMT
#156
Nice one less thing for the community to bitch about.
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
December 07 2013 11:25 GMT
#157
On December 07 2013 14:20 aintz wrote:
AP is fine, nobody stops you from being the one picking the op heroes. the choice is all yours. i for one will keep randoming, gotta get dat random goldddd, quit hon cuz they removed random gold.


sf picker
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
December 07 2013 11:27 GMT
#158
Arhhhhhhhh... I really love ranked matchmaking, it's like the number one thing I need in a game, but this is such a turn-off like.. I don't think there is any way you can use an algorithm to determine a players individual performance. What if the other team always buys the bait (and ultimate this guy die without kills and likely very little assists), but he did the exact job the team wanted him to do? It really doesn't make sense to rate people's individual performance in a win/loss scenario from an algorithm. That being said, this is going to be interesting.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 07 2013 11:27 GMT
#159
On December 07 2013 19:24 NeThZOR wrote:
Finally the frustration of playing with lesser skilled teammates who feed the whole time will come to and end, hopefully.


Why would it end?

In roughly 50% of the games you're still going to have lesser skilled teammates who feed, or you're going to be the lesser skilled teammate who feeds. The matchmaking doesn't change, all it does is show you a number to look at.
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 11:33:23
December 07 2013 11:32 GMT
#160
Also, it incentivises killstealing, taking the farm when you're not supposed to and stuff... It's just not good. :-(
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
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