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Please keep the QQ to a minimum if you do not like this update. We are happy to hear your reasoning for not liking a ranked system, but no "OMG VOLVO WHY" posts.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
December 17 2013 14:17 GMT
#781
Have been losing all games in ranked honestly, feeling like playing against stacks with random ppl that are actually worse than the pub level I played before ranked. Maybe should find a stack to play because this feels so lame, games are not even close just total beatdown.

Not satisfied with the drafting too, because we get captain who is fastest clicker and doesnt even want to hear opininons most of the time. Think there should be a voting system for captain or something similar.

Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
December 17 2013 14:36 GMT
#782
And how would a voting process allow you to decide which of the other 4 players should be your captain?
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 17 2013 14:47 GMT
#783
On December 17 2013 23:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
And how would a voting process allow you to decide which of the other 4 players should be your captain?


Stacks would ruin that, also everyone wants to be a hero.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
December 17 2013 14:51 GMT
#784
Doesnt have to be voting, maybe highest rated player should draft or something else than who can click fastest .
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
December 17 2013 14:57 GMT
#785
On December 17 2013 23:51 SkelA wrote:
Doesnt have to be voting, maybe highest rated player should draft or something else than who can click fastest .

The problem with this is that the highest rated player might very well be a shitty drafter... or simply dislike doing it.
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
December 17 2013 15:01 GMT
#786
Don't ever play CM or CD without full stack.
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Romitelli
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
December 17 2013 15:01 GMT
#787
I'm one game from completing my 10 solo calibration games.

Overall match quality has been a definite improvement from unranked. All games featured balanced team compositions, albeit some were a bit greedy (not too bad considering pub environment I guess). Almost constant ward coverage on maybe 7 out of the 9 games. The 150 game minimum is also cutting back on noobs with inflated MMR due to oversensity of Valve's antismurf system.

Some negative points: about half of the matches were huge stomps by the midgame, and the wait-until-creeps-spawn-to-counterpick bullshit is really annoying. I hope Valve fixes AP for ranked matches, since the queue for CM/CD is not viable at the moment (too long and produces more unbalanced games).
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
December 17 2013 15:02 GMT
#788
On December 17 2013 23:17 SkelA wrote:
Have been losing all games in ranked honestly, feeling like playing against stacks with random ppl that are actually worse than the pub level I played before ranked. Maybe should find a stack to play because this feels so lame, games are not even close just total beatdown.

Not satisfied with the drafting too, because we get captain who is fastest clicker and doesnt even want to hear opininons most of the time. Think there should be a voting system for captain or something similar.



I think stacks of 2/3/4 players shouldn't be allowed to play ranked MM. Either solo or full 5 men stack.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 17 2013 15:03 GMT
#789
On December 18 2013 00:01 dfs wrote:
Don't ever play CM or CD without full stack.


AP is not better, against stacks it is still worse than CM/CD. In CM/CD, there is still a chance to have a sensible line-up.

Solo ranked against stacks is the real problem here imo.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 15:10:50
December 17 2013 15:05 GMT
#790
I played 8 solo ranked so far. The only obvious differences from normal MM I found are:
- People wait to counterpick more often.
- Usually there is at least 1 guy who tries to communicate, with various results.
- More whining than usual.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
December 17 2013 15:44 GMT
#791
There's a large variability in skill in ranked mm I've found. Had a game with me and another guy at 4k ish and then three at 2k ish. Was a close game but our main carry was a gyro played by one of the 2k ish guys. At a critical fight at their base, he just ran in with rapier/aegis, died twice and lost us the game. Probably unavoidable to have only games with close skill levels, but with no solo queue option it's unavoidable. Still, it sucks when people with low skill levels decide to ninja captain spot and then proceed to pick the most retarded team ever because it works at their skill level.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 15:50:04
December 17 2013 15:49 GMT
#792
On December 18 2013 00:01 dfs wrote:
Don't ever play CM or CD without full stack.


This. What happends in CM or CD is that everybody starts whining about which hero they want, if you want to choose urself u should not play C-mode anyway! C-mode without stack sucks and it allways ends up someone being a bitch because hes playing a hero he doesnt really know how (becuz capt didnt ask) or becuz he doesnt want to (which is worse).
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 15:52:08
December 17 2013 15:52 GMT
#793
On December 18 2013 00:44 ZeaL. wrote:
There's a large variability in skill in ranked mm I've found. Had a game with me and another guy at 4k ish and then three at 2k ish. Was a close game but our main carry was a gyro played by one of the 2k ish guys. At a critical fight at their base, he just ran in with rapier/aegis, died twice and lost us the game. Probably unavoidable to have only games with close skill levels, but with no solo queue option it's unavoidable. Still, it sucks when people with low skill levels decide to ninja captain spot and then proceed to pick the most retarded team ever because it works at their skill level.

U sure it wasnt a party with high rating disparity?
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
December 17 2013 15:56 GMT
#794
Anyone else find it a bit silly that "Ranked" mode has all pick? At least it should have some sort of modified AP such that it doesn't become a waiting game to see who can counterpick best. Maybe you can pick your hero, but the other team can't see it, and picks are locked in at 0:00. Alternatively, do it like random draft where both sides take turns selecting their hero.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-17 15:58:27
December 17 2013 15:57 GMT
#795
On December 18 2013 00:56 Jonoman92 wrote:
Anyone else find it a bit silly that "Ranked" mode has all pick? At least it should have some sort of modified AP such that it doesn't become a waiting game to see who can counterpick best. Maybe you can pick your hero, but the other team can't see it, and picks are locked in at 0:00. Alternatively, do it like random draft where both sides take turns selecting their hero.

Anybody else not read the last 40 pages of thread?

Ok maybe not 40 but everybody has agreed that it is awful for at least 10 pages :/
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
December 17 2013 15:59 GMT
#796
Actually i would pick AP over CM,CD anyday for solo queue.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
December 17 2013 16:16 GMT
#797
On December 18 2013 00:59 SkelA wrote:
Actually i would pick AP over CM,CD anyday for solo queue.


Around 4K MMR, people still pick storm solo hard lane as the last pick in AP. No need to say they fail hard.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
December 17 2013 16:22 GMT
#798
Who knows why valve didn't choose all draft over ap/cm for ranked...
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 17 2013 17:00 GMT
#799
On December 18 2013 00:59 SkelA wrote:
Actually i would pick AP over CM,CD anyday for solo queue.


Random draft is best when solo. A tiny portion so most dont play there best hero, but enough choice to try a make it a good match. Best games ive have had going solo was in RD!!
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ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
December 17 2013 17:38 GMT
#800
Is there any place to see a list of ranked players' ratings?
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