EPTRanked matchmaking coming to Dota 2 - Page 41
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SkelA
Macedonia13076 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
On December 18 2013 00:56 Jonoman92 wrote: Anyone else find it a bit silly that "Ranked" mode has all pick? At least it should have some sort of modified AP such that it doesn't become a waiting game to see who can counterpick best. Maybe you can pick your hero, but the other team can't see it, and picks are locked in at 0:00. Alternatively, do it like random draft where both sides take turns selecting their hero. My team had a early Broodmother pick then other team picked Earthshaker later. I didn't think too much about it for most of the game since Broodmother never took part in teamfights but when we we're about to break their base Broodmother was around and Earthshaker slam dunked 100 spiders and most of our team and game got turned around. Although I'm probably more annoyed by my own team taking ages to pick and then doing utterly retarded last picks, I wouldn't mind picking that support or whatever we need and playing it to my best ability if people actually picked before the game starts. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
For every winner, there is exactly one loser. Your 15-1 streak means that others were losing more than they were winning. If the matchmaking algorithm had mis-evaluated your MMR then a 15-1 streak makes sense but it also means that your opponents lost a lot of games  . Therefore MM can't be "easier" now. You aren't against bots. You can't have suddenly most people winning an absurd amount. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On December 18 2013 06:24 Sn0_Man wrote: Don't forget that Dota 2 is a Zero-sum game with respects to winning and losing. For every winner, there is exactly one loser. Your 15-1 streak means that others were losing more than they were winning. If the matchmaking algorithm had mis-evaluated your MMR then a 15-1 streak makes sense but it also means that your opponents lost a lot of games . Therefore MM can't be "easier" now. You aren't against bots. You can't have suddenly most people winning an absurd amount. You're right of course, although I think they changed some things. Like playing solo vs stack means you get compensated with lower MMR players I believe, so maybe solo queue got a bit easier? Though I'm sure I've gotten a bit better from playing mostly ixdl. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On December 18 2013 06:32 hifriend wrote: You're right of course, although I think they changed some things. Like playing solo vs stack means you get compensated with lower MMR players I believe, so maybe solo queue got a bit easier? Though I'm sure I've gotten a bit better from playing mostly ixdl. Playing and improving in a non-matchmaking environment would indeed make matchmaking easy since it believed you were your old MMR despite you actually improving from IXDL (which it obviously can't take into account). | ||
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Rhayader
Romania189 Posts
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rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
On December 18 2013 12:07 Rhayader wrote: 4468 rating after going 5-5 in placement matches. No idea if my rank is good or bad. lol well i have about 1300 games of dota played, and my MMR is 3500. I did lose like 7 inna row or something last night, really tanked my MMR. But i think 4400 is pretty high, i am by no means amazing at the game, but i feel good about my skills, and my MMR is only 3500, so i assume you are damn good! haha. Also, i think im only going to play CM mode, All Picks are just a joke for me at this point, even if i last pick, its 4 carries, and ill support as hard as i can, but it can only do so much with bad drafts. Frankly, i dont know how im being placed with these people, i thought my MMR would be high enough to where people are at least semi competent, even in CM mode, at my MMR, you should not be picking 5 fucking carries! Sorry for the QQ, ranked is really getting to me passed few days. | ||
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BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
I thought I was way more scrub than that. I'm still pretty bush league, but still, it's nice. | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
my last 10 games were almost all shit. to quote what i posted on fb: "im playing a game where last pick bloodseeker (no couriers) just silenced (our team's) slardar who was about to stun and get us a kill" yeah that happened FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU- | ||
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SheaR619
United States2399 Posts
On December 18 2013 14:34 konadora wrote: anyone else thinks this ranked matchmaking is shit? my last 10 games were almost all shit. to quote what i posted on fb: "im playing a game where last pick bloodseeker (no couriers) just silenced (our team's) slardar who was about to stun and get us a kill" yeah that happened FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU- atleast you didnt get in a captain mode where your pink (supposely highest MMR on team) first banned Bloodseeker and then 2nd band sladar. Dont even talk to me about the draft.....because it was horrid.....this MMR just make me feel more shit about myself since I real how shit my MMR is after losing 15 gameish playing with my lower MMR friends. I am within 3000-4000 MMR since that what I am getting after talking to everyone I played with. | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
On December 18 2013 14:34 konadora wrote: anyone else thinks this ranked matchmaking is shit? my last 10 games were almost all shit. to quote what i posted on fb: "im playing a game where last pick bloodseeker (no couriers) just silenced (our team's) slardar who was about to stun and get us a kill" yeah that happened FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU- It's really hit and miss. I had a Kunkka yelling at me til he was blue in the fact to initiate as Undying because he didn't know how to x combo anything, and I also had a 4 stack listening to me when I was their random and they didn't blame me for everyone else's mistakes. That was nice. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
i never had such problems with sc2 or any other ranked/ladder system games... and out of all the companies who can't pull off a good mmr system, volvo? | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On December 18 2013 14:41 SheaR619 wrote: atleast you didnt get in a captain mode where your pink (supposely highest MMR on team) first banned Bloodseeker and then 2nd band sladar. Dont even talk to me about the draft.....because it was horrid.....this MMR just make me feel more shit about myself since I real how shit my MMR is after losing 15 gameish playing with my lower MMR friends. I am within 3000-4000 MMR since that what I am getting after talking to everyone I played with. Pink and blue doesn't mean highest mmr in dota2 though. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On December 18 2013 14:50 konadora wrote: how is that that the mmr is such hit and miss though? only because it is early into the system? i never had such problems with sc2 or any other ranked/ladder system games... and out of all the companies who can't pull off a good mmr system, volvo? Theres too much variables in a dota game with 10 players It is incredible more easy in sc were it is only 2 players I think Valve is doing a decent job and that their MMR system is quite solid | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9109 Posts
On December 18 2013 02:52 Vaelone wrote: My team had a early Broodmother pick then other team picked Earthshaker later. I didn't think too much about it for most of the game since Broodmother never took part in teamfights but when we we're about to break their base Broodmother was around and Earthshaker slam dunked 100 spiders and most of our team and game got turned around. Although I'm probably more annoyed by my own team taking ages to pick and then doing utterly retarded last picks, I wouldn't mind picking that support or whatever we need and playing it to my best ability if people actually picked before the game starts. lol, this so much Also, your MMR changes every game once you play your first 10 matches right? Any reports on how much it changes each game (ballpark)? I never cared about bw/sc2 laddering... but I am hesitant to play ranked games on Dota for some reason. Worried it'll take some of the fun out of it and I'll want to actually play my good heroes instead of whoever I want. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12244 Posts
On December 18 2013 14:50 konadora wrote: how is that that the mmr is such hit and miss though? only because it is early into the system? i never had such problems with sc2 or any other ranked/ladder system games... and out of all the companies who can't pull off a good mmr system, volvo? How do you know it's hit and miss though? Limited anecdotal evidence? | ||
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