• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:41
CET 15:41
KST 23:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book13Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)1Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker7PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)11Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Terran Scanner Sweep
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates StarCraft player reflex TE scores Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Sex and weight loss YouTube Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1568 users

No sc2 and dota2 at Pax? - Page 5

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
EuroRabbit
Profile Joined November 2011
United States39 Posts
September 01 2013 14:18 GMT
#81
Fuck Riot and fuck league of losers. Riot is terrible for esports, they should be shunned, ignored and black listed by everyone in the industry if they can.

They deserve nothing, LoL isn't even a real esport, its a casual game designed for casuals played for tens of thousands of dollars, what a joke.

User was temp banned for this post.
Just enjoying the trees :)
jaymik
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)425 Posts
September 01 2013 14:30 GMT
#82
^ thread is gold
jaymik kr/na
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2013 14:35 GMT
#83
On September 01 2013 23:30 jaymik wrote:
^ thread is gold

It is living up to expectations.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 01 2013 14:37 GMT
#84
What does sponsored Bandwith even mean?O.o
WriterXiao8~~
xShadow53
Profile Joined June 2013
14 Posts
September 01 2013 14:43 GMT
#85
This really doesn't make sense. When i went to pax east earlier this year Dota 2 was installed @ PC Freeplay. There was also tons of machines with sc2 installed @ Mainhall...
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 14:45:35
September 01 2013 14:45 GMT
#86
On September 01 2013 23:37 Kipsate wrote:
What does sponsored Bandwith even mean?O.o

I assume it means that they are just giving them money to pay the bill.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 01 2013 14:46 GMT
#87
So all games present need to have paid Pax in order to be played there?
WriterXiao8~~
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 14:51:22
September 01 2013 14:49 GMT
#88
On September 01 2013 23:46 Kipsate wrote:
So all games present need to have paid Pax in order to be played there?

It sounds like that is the case at least for the area where PAX visitors can play on the computers that were setup for public gaming (or have LAN capability so it doesnt eat into the bandwidth).
Other parts of the venue can do whatever they like it seems (booths, etc).

I would like to see if they are ok with LAN games like broodwar and maybe even some good old DotA1 being played in that area.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 01 2013 14:50 GMT
#89
I hate the LoL vs Dota 2 debate. Can people just stop perpetuating the war.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 01 2013 14:53 GMT
#90
does it really matter if dota 2 or sc2 or league are on the machines there? you're at PAX to check out the booths and get free swag and what not, not to sit there and play games you already own ;\
Mirosuu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
England283 Posts
September 01 2013 14:57 GMT
#91
I just want to let people know that I've been to PAX on Friday and going again today (Sunday). The SC2 section is very small and isn't really a SC2 section. It's a Kingston Hyper X booth with just some small content from some players from EG and dignitas. Suppy, Incontrol, Demuslim and D.SeleCT
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
September 01 2013 14:57 GMT
#92
Given that non-LAN games played over the internet will be sensitive to packetloss and latency, and the fact that 99.9% of the attendees will have some form of internet using device on their person using any free internet available, it is reasonable for additional bandwidth/internet to be required for the actual gaming section with the free PCs. Otherwise they would just use the crap internet that everything else is using, and the games would be unplayable.

Or... you use games which support LAN play.

You don't need to pay PAX to have your game there, but you need to pay if you want it to be played over the internet, because as-is, the internet available wouldn't work for them if they are non-LAN.

That's how I understand it. Which seems reasonable and sensible. Who wants to play on a dodgy internet with 250ms ping and 50% packetloss? You need some sort of dedicated internet for the games if they are non-LAN, and that costs money.
HOLY CHECK!
xShadow53
Profile Joined June 2013
14 Posts
September 01 2013 14:58 GMT
#93
On September 01 2013 23:53 Sprouter wrote:
does it really matter if dota 2 or sc2 or league are on the machines there? you're at PAX to check out the booths and get free swag and what not, not to sit there and play games you already own ;\

I beg to differ. It's pretty cool playing a game you own with a bunch of random people who have the same interest as you.
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 15:31:12
September 01 2013 15:16 GMT
#94
Guy claiming to be the show director from PAX commented here:


Hey, this is Robert Khoo from Penny Arcade - the show director to PAX. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. No amount of money is worth blocking games - besides the fact that it actually hurts the community, it would obviously hurt our relationship with one of our other partners, Valve. (and who doesn't want to have a good relationship with Valve - come on)

The only time we have EVER pulled a game was because of either technical issues (like bandwidth) or content reasons (in PAX Australia, funny enough, it was L4D2 because it's banned over there and we didn't know until the second day. oops.).


[edit]lol i dunno how to read
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 15:20:44
September 01 2013 15:20 GMT
#95
On September 02 2013 00:16 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Guy claiming to be the show director from PAX commented here:


Show nested quote +
Hey, this is Robert Khoo from Penny Arcade - the show director to PAX. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. No amount of money is worth blocking games - besides the fact that it actually hurts the community, it would obviously hurt our relationship with one of our other partners, Valve. (and who doesn't want to have a good relationship with Valve - come on)

The only time we have EVER pulled a game was because of either technical issues (like bandwidth) or content reasons (in PAX Australia, funny enough, it was L4D2 because it's banned over there and we didn't know until the second day. oops.).


The quote that someone pulled about blocking games due to bandwidth is taken from a forum post back in early August and doesn't seem relevant to this particular case

??? The way im reading it that is exactly what he is saying. He didnt deny that dota will not be played in the gaming area and he said that there are only two reasons why a game would not be played, content and technical issues, like bandwidth. And there is no content issue with dota soooo.....
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
September 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#96
from the dota2 reddit
"Another requirement that we started making a few PAX's ago, for the sake of bandwidth conservation, is that all Freeplay and Tournament games that are played, must have locally install-able servers or sponsored bandwidth. This did cut out a few titles (such as Battlefield 3) that simply didn't offer a local server option. Other companies have in the past opted to sponsor internet. That is why there are a few titles that are popular in the eSports arena that are not being played. It's not that we don't want them, just that we have to ensure that the network experience for both the Freeplayer's and the BYOC users meets expectations."

So Riot paid for their bandwidth valve and blizzard didn't.
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
September 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#97
On September 02 2013 00:20 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 00:16 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Guy claiming to be the show director from PAX commented here:


Hey, this is Robert Khoo from Penny Arcade - the show director to PAX. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. No amount of money is worth blocking games - besides the fact that it actually hurts the community, it would obviously hurt our relationship with one of our other partners, Valve. (and who doesn't want to have a good relationship with Valve - come on)

The only time we have EVER pulled a game was because of either technical issues (like bandwidth) or content reasons (in PAX Australia, funny enough, it was L4D2 because it's banned over there and we didn't know until the second day. oops.).


The quote that someone pulled about blocking games due to bandwidth is taken from a forum post back in early August and doesn't seem relevant to this particular case

??? The way im reading it that is exactly what he is saying. He didnt deny that dota will not be played in the gaming area and he said that there are only two reasons why a game would not be played, content and technical issues, like bandwidth. And there is no content issue with dota soooo.....


lol wow i'm on 4 hours of sleep and reading comprehension is hard T_T
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
September 01 2013 15:23 GMT
#98
On September 01 2013 23:50 NeThZOR wrote:
I hate the LoL vs Dota 2 debate. Can people just stop perpetuating the war.

And maybe while they are at it, keep it out of the sc2 subforum ? Nah ,we are asking for too much, because esports!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 01 2013 15:24 GMT
#99
On September 02 2013 00:23 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 23:50 NeThZOR wrote:
I hate the LoL vs Dota 2 debate. Can people just stop perpetuating the war.

And maybe while they are at it, keep it out of the sc2 subforum ? Nah ,we are asking for too much, because esports!

Saving esports, one angry forum post at a time!
Glorious SEA doto
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45268 Posts
September 01 2013 15:25 GMT
#100
It's their loss if they're not willing to make accommodations for SC2 and DotA 2. Would like an official announcement though >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 204
Rex 114
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48326
Horang2 2701
Snow 467
actioN 300
Soma 282
hero 280
Mini 267
Mong 179
Rush 143
Barracks 109
[ Show more ]
Zeus 74
Sea.KH 71
Hm[arnc] 32
ToSsGirL 31
JulyZerg 27
910 26
Rock 25
Yoon 23
Shine 20
Terrorterran 19
Movie 19
soO 15
Noble 13
zelot 11
scan(afreeca) 9
Sacsri 7
Dota 2
Gorgc576
Dendi515
420jenkins173
Counter-Strike
allub301
Other Games
singsing1926
B2W.Neo858
hiko828
RotterdaM665
crisheroes315
DeMusliM277
Happy212
Sick201
Fuzer 191
Mew2King114
KnowMe99
ArmadaUGS30
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 12
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH268
• StrangeGG 77
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV426
• lizZardDota255
League of Legends
• Jankos3189
• TFBlade826
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 19m
The PondCast
19h 19m
KCM Race Survival
19h 19m
LiuLi Cup
20h 19m
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Online Event
1d 19h
LiuLi Cup
1d 20h
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
2 days
Serral vs TBD
RSL Revival
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.