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EuroRabbit
Profile Joined November 2011
United States39 Posts
September 01 2013 14:18 GMT
#81
Fuck Riot and fuck league of losers. Riot is terrible for esports, they should be shunned, ignored and black listed by everyone in the industry if they can.

They deserve nothing, LoL isn't even a real esport, its a casual game designed for casuals played for tens of thousands of dollars, what a joke.

User was temp banned for this post.
Just enjoying the trees :)
jaymik
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)425 Posts
September 01 2013 14:30 GMT
#82
^ thread is gold
jaymik kr/na
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2013 14:35 GMT
#83
On September 01 2013 23:30 jaymik wrote:
^ thread is gold

It is living up to expectations.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 01 2013 14:37 GMT
#84
What does sponsored Bandwith even mean?O.o
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xShadow53
Profile Joined June 2013
14 Posts
September 01 2013 14:43 GMT
#85
This really doesn't make sense. When i went to pax east earlier this year Dota 2 was installed @ PC Freeplay. There was also tons of machines with sc2 installed @ Mainhall...
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 14:45:35
September 01 2013 14:45 GMT
#86
On September 01 2013 23:37 Kipsate wrote:
What does sponsored Bandwith even mean?O.o

I assume it means that they are just giving them money to pay the bill.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 01 2013 14:46 GMT
#87
So all games present need to have paid Pax in order to be played there?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 14:51:22
September 01 2013 14:49 GMT
#88
On September 01 2013 23:46 Kipsate wrote:
So all games present need to have paid Pax in order to be played there?

It sounds like that is the case at least for the area where PAX visitors can play on the computers that were setup for public gaming (or have LAN capability so it doesnt eat into the bandwidth).
Other parts of the venue can do whatever they like it seems (booths, etc).

I would like to see if they are ok with LAN games like broodwar and maybe even some good old DotA1 being played in that area.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 01 2013 14:50 GMT
#89
I hate the LoL vs Dota 2 debate. Can people just stop perpetuating the war.
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Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 01 2013 14:53 GMT
#90
does it really matter if dota 2 or sc2 or league are on the machines there? you're at PAX to check out the booths and get free swag and what not, not to sit there and play games you already own ;\
Mirosuu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
England283 Posts
September 01 2013 14:57 GMT
#91
I just want to let people know that I've been to PAX on Friday and going again today (Sunday). The SC2 section is very small and isn't really a SC2 section. It's a Kingston Hyper X booth with just some small content from some players from EG and dignitas. Suppy, Incontrol, Demuslim and D.SeleCT
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
September 01 2013 14:57 GMT
#92
Given that non-LAN games played over the internet will be sensitive to packetloss and latency, and the fact that 99.9% of the attendees will have some form of internet using device on their person using any free internet available, it is reasonable for additional bandwidth/internet to be required for the actual gaming section with the free PCs. Otherwise they would just use the crap internet that everything else is using, and the games would be unplayable.

Or... you use games which support LAN play.

You don't need to pay PAX to have your game there, but you need to pay if you want it to be played over the internet, because as-is, the internet available wouldn't work for them if they are non-LAN.

That's how I understand it. Which seems reasonable and sensible. Who wants to play on a dodgy internet with 250ms ping and 50% packetloss? You need some sort of dedicated internet for the games if they are non-LAN, and that costs money.
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xShadow53
Profile Joined June 2013
14 Posts
September 01 2013 14:58 GMT
#93
On September 01 2013 23:53 Sprouter wrote:
does it really matter if dota 2 or sc2 or league are on the machines there? you're at PAX to check out the booths and get free swag and what not, not to sit there and play games you already own ;\

I beg to differ. It's pretty cool playing a game you own with a bunch of random people who have the same interest as you.
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 15:31:12
September 01 2013 15:16 GMT
#94
Guy claiming to be the show director from PAX commented here:


Hey, this is Robert Khoo from Penny Arcade - the show director to PAX. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. No amount of money is worth blocking games - besides the fact that it actually hurts the community, it would obviously hurt our relationship with one of our other partners, Valve. (and who doesn't want to have a good relationship with Valve - come on)

The only time we have EVER pulled a game was because of either technical issues (like bandwidth) or content reasons (in PAX Australia, funny enough, it was L4D2 because it's banned over there and we didn't know until the second day. oops.).


[edit]lol i dunno how to read
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 15:20:44
September 01 2013 15:20 GMT
#95
On September 02 2013 00:16 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Guy claiming to be the show director from PAX commented here:


Show nested quote +
Hey, this is Robert Khoo from Penny Arcade - the show director to PAX. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. No amount of money is worth blocking games - besides the fact that it actually hurts the community, it would obviously hurt our relationship with one of our other partners, Valve. (and who doesn't want to have a good relationship with Valve - come on)

The only time we have EVER pulled a game was because of either technical issues (like bandwidth) or content reasons (in PAX Australia, funny enough, it was L4D2 because it's banned over there and we didn't know until the second day. oops.).


The quote that someone pulled about blocking games due to bandwidth is taken from a forum post back in early August and doesn't seem relevant to this particular case

??? The way im reading it that is exactly what he is saying. He didnt deny that dota will not be played in the gaming area and he said that there are only two reasons why a game would not be played, content and technical issues, like bandwidth. And there is no content issue with dota soooo.....
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Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
September 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#96
from the dota2 reddit
"Another requirement that we started making a few PAX's ago, for the sake of bandwidth conservation, is that all Freeplay and Tournament games that are played, must have locally install-able servers or sponsored bandwidth. This did cut out a few titles (such as Battlefield 3) that simply didn't offer a local server option. Other companies have in the past opted to sponsor internet. That is why there are a few titles that are popular in the eSports arena that are not being played. It's not that we don't want them, just that we have to ensure that the network experience for both the Freeplayer's and the BYOC users meets expectations."

So Riot paid for their bandwidth valve and blizzard didn't.
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
September 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#97
On September 02 2013 00:20 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 00:16 SpeaKEaSY wrote:
Guy claiming to be the show director from PAX commented here:


Hey, this is Robert Khoo from Penny Arcade - the show director to PAX. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. No amount of money is worth blocking games - besides the fact that it actually hurts the community, it would obviously hurt our relationship with one of our other partners, Valve. (and who doesn't want to have a good relationship with Valve - come on)

The only time we have EVER pulled a game was because of either technical issues (like bandwidth) or content reasons (in PAX Australia, funny enough, it was L4D2 because it's banned over there and we didn't know until the second day. oops.).


The quote that someone pulled about blocking games due to bandwidth is taken from a forum post back in early August and doesn't seem relevant to this particular case

??? The way im reading it that is exactly what he is saying. He didnt deny that dota will not be played in the gaming area and he said that there are only two reasons why a game would not be played, content and technical issues, like bandwidth. And there is no content issue with dota soooo.....


lol wow i'm on 4 hours of sleep and reading comprehension is hard T_T
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10146 Posts
September 01 2013 15:23 GMT
#98
On September 01 2013 23:50 NeThZOR wrote:
I hate the LoL vs Dota 2 debate. Can people just stop perpetuating the war.

And maybe while they are at it, keep it out of the sc2 subforum ? Nah ,we are asking for too much, because esports!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 01 2013 15:24 GMT
#99
On September 02 2013 00:23 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 23:50 NeThZOR wrote:
I hate the LoL vs Dota 2 debate. Can people just stop perpetuating the war.

And maybe while they are at it, keep it out of the sc2 subforum ? Nah ,we are asking for too much, because esports!

Saving esports, one angry forum post at a time!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46058 Posts
September 01 2013 15:25 GMT
#100
It's their loss if they're not willing to make accommodations for SC2 and DotA 2. Would like an official announcement though >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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