EPTNo sc2 and dota2 at Pax? - Page 3
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Chillax
England585 Posts
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Teton
France1656 Posts
Shitty client/account security, no replays etc. Oh well | ||
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ChaosShadow
United States79 Posts
On September 01 2013 20:09 DonKey_ wrote: It isn't the case. http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/181590/pax-prime-2013-pc-tournament-schedule Also the bandwidth excuse mentioned in the comment starts to sound less like BS. "Another requirement that we started making a few PAX's ago, for the sake of bandwidth conservation, is that all Freeplay and Tournament games that are played, must have locally install-able servers or sponsored bandwidth. This did cut out a few titles (such as Battlefield 3) that simply didn't offer a local server option. Other companies have in the past opted to sponsor internet. That is why there are a few titles that are popular in the eSports arena that are not being played. It's not that we don't want them, just that we have to ensure that the network experience for both the Freeplayer's and the BYOC users meets expectations." Seeing how Riot is actually likely to pay for the "sponsored bandwidth" and Valve isn't. People need to read this post and realize that it explains this situation. Riot, having a presence at the actual show, most likely sponsored the bandwidth for their game to be on the freeplay machines. | ||
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Cubu
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
On September 01 2013 20:52 ChaosShadow wrote: People need to read this post and realize that it explains this situation. Riot, having a presence at the actual show, most likely sponsored the bandwidth for their game to be on the freeplay machines. Which is a great thing for people that love the game, especially with the extra incentive of double xp/ip. Which is awesome for those leveling up accounts. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On September 01 2013 20:47 Chillax wrote: Ultimately if people want to be angry they should voice their displeasure to Penny Arcade. They organized the event and set this up. I agree I think this looks so much worse for the PAX organizers than Riot. Yeah, it's typical Riot but they are directly competing against Dota 2, I can understand that they want to promote their game. I think it definitely shows a lack of confidence in their own product to not even allow the choice of playing Dota 2, but it's PAX who gladly took money in order to institute this rule that Riot laid out. If this was sponsored by Doritos and Dew and you couldn't eat anything else there'd be outrage over the commercialization of PAX and gaming events in general. I don't even think it's a very good idea once the truth is out there, I think it looks good for Dota 2. When it gets reported, everyone will know what a threat the game is when the biggest game has to pay for it to not be present. How many people are at PAX compared to how many people who will hear the news of shit like this? | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
just blows my mind. | ||
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Kisra
United Kingdom466 Posts
Riot sponsor the PC Freeplay area, so want their game played and advertise for it? Golly gee. Shutting out their biggest rival is a little dickish, but understandable - and it's not like Valve are some kind of plucky underdog with no means to get word out about their product; you know, unrestricted access to the resources of the biggest PC gaming platform does come into play here. There's nothing of value in this thread. Just a reddit crosspost and the attempt to get a kind of "Look at how evil Riot is" shout. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I think we can stop pitchforking now. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On September 01 2013 21:05 Plansix wrote: SC 2 is at pax, there have been a number of tweets from people attending a about playing it. There is a section of PC sponsored by Riot that do not have Dota installed, but it's not all the PCs. I think we can stop pitchforking now. And [/thread] GG guys that's a wrap. Back to pitchforking Korea's stuff. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16847 Posts
I wish people embraced competition more instead of copping out. I should join a political party and try convincing them to sponsor SC2 or Dota2 tournaments. NeSPA INC. | ||
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theking1
Romania658 Posts
On September 01 2013 21:05 Plansix wrote: SC 2 is at pax, there have been a number of tweets from people attending a about playing it. There is a section of PC sponsored by Riot that do not have Dota installed, but it's not all the PCs. I think we can stop pitchforking now. Just saw someone link this to twitter from the Penny Arcade forums (from someone who spoke to people at PAX) http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/27792059/#Comment_27792059 Got confirmation from an Enforcer, Dota 2 is not on the machines (and not allowed to be installed even if you login to your own Steam account) because Riot sponsored the area. In fact, Riot employees were walking around the area, and if you play LoL from a PAX computer you get double XP/IP. So yeah, that's a thing. I am a bit frown town that PA/PAX saw this as okay. Doesn't this sort of go against the spirit of the entire convention? Or has it just reached a point where commercialization's unstoppable force has taken over? It's one thing to allow Riot to have a huge presence there, it's another to allow them to buy out the "free" play PC area and not allow a competitors game on the machines. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 01 2013 21:09 Wintex wrote: I dislike Riot so much I don't even want to post what I actually feel. It might be too much... I wish people embraced competition more instead of copping out. I should join a political party and try convincing them to sponsor SC2 or Dota2 tournaments. NeSPA INC. I bet they didn't even tell anyone and just delivered the PCs without Dota 2 on them. The Internet at convention centers normally sucks and it's not like they are going to install hundreds of copies of Dota 2. It would be like Riot to slide this under the radar and people only noticed once PAX started. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On September 01 2013 20:52 ChaosShadow wrote: People need to read this post and realize that it explains this situation. Riot, having a presence at the actual show, most likely sponsored the bandwidth for their game to be on the freeplay machines. The inner-quoted comment needs to be added to the OP by the OP or a mod. This was just premature pitchforking. Only games with LAN or sponsored bandwidth are allowed to be played multiplayer. At least according to the PAX people. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
An enforcer is not a supe reliable source(though he could be correct), either way it had no effect on SC 2 and the thread should be moved and title changed. Edit: An the bandwidth thing makes way more sense. So no match making unless the company who owns the game pays for the bandwidth. Makes perfect sense. No pitchforking required. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On September 01 2013 20:59 Chexx wrote: This thread sounds like "one company cares about their game. The other doesnt. Lets hate on the one who does." just blows my mind. That's a ridiculous notion. One company allows external growth with their game, and doesn't throw money at events and teams. | ||
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Kisra
United Kingdom466 Posts
On September 01 2013 21:27 ReignSupreme. wrote: That's a ridiculous notion. One company allows external growth with their game, and doesn't throw money at events to make people like them. One company doesn't bother showing up to an enormous gaming event. The other pays for computers and internet there to foster growth and encourage more players. Do you see how spin and bias works? | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On September 01 2013 21:33 Kisra wrote: One company doesn't bother showing up to an enormous gaming event. The other pays for computers and internet there to foster growth and encourage more players. Do you see how spin and bias works? One company invests in supporting teams and an ecosystem, including salaries, and promotes e-sports at a government level in their home country, enabling international competition to travel more easily to their home country. One company holds a contest once a year and manages to get fans to pay for it outright by buying an in game item which almost certainly covers not only the prize pool costs, but also the costs to host the event. This is fun, we should keep going. | ||
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
On September 01 2013 21:38 Lonyo wrote: One company invests in supporting teams and an ecosystem, including salaries, and promotes e-sports at a government level in their home country, enabling international competition to travel more easily to their home country. One company holds a contest once a year and manages to get fans to pay for it outright by buying an in game item which almost certainly covers not only the prize pool costs, but also the costs to host the event. This is fun, we should keep going. One company does its best to put out an amazing product, raising the bar in esports, and challenging all its competitors to try and top their incredible investments into making their product successful. The other company does its best to put out an amazing product, raising the bar in esports, and challenging all its competitors to try and top their incredible investments into making their product successful. | ||
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