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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2013 12:52 GMT
#61
This thread has spawned a reddit thread about the same subject:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1licwa/no_sc2_and_dota2_at_pax/

Even though this thread started due to an initial reddit post. Pitchforking at its finest. Meanwhile, Penny Arcade cleared this up on their site in regards to bandwidth and that some games without Lan are not on the PCs, like BF3:

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/27572111/#Comment_27572111

We did it all for the drama.
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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
September 01 2013 12:56 GMT
#62
cannot understand people here. LoL is free, riot cares about its players, the game is always improving. Totally opposite of sc2. And you blame riot, wtf?!
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
September 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#63
On September 01 2013 21:56 saddaromma wrote:
cannot understand people here. LoL is free, riot cares about its players, the game is always improving. Totally opposite of sc2. And you blame riot, wtf?!

Er, what does any of that have to do with shady undercutting of competitors?
Riot's had a history of trying to fuck over the competition, this is just another notch in the belt.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 13:00:01
September 01 2013 12:59 GMT
#64
On September 01 2013 21:52 Plansix wrote:
This thread has spawned a reddit thread about the same subject:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1licwa/no_sc2_and_dota2_at_pax/

Even though this thread started due to an initial reddit post. Pitchforking at its finest. Meanwhile, Penny Arcade cleared this up on their site in regards to bandwidth and that some games without Lan are not on the PCs, like BF3:

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/27572111/#Comment_27572111

We did it all for the drama.


Pretty sure the reddit OP (jesusfromnazareth) is also theking1, considering his last posts have been bashing MLG... lol
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
September 01 2013 13:00 GMT
#65
On September 01 2013 21:58 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 21:56 saddaromma wrote:
cannot understand people here. LoL is free, riot cares about its players, the game is always improving. Totally opposite of sc2. And you blame riot, wtf?!

Er, what does any of that have to do with shady undercutting of competitors?
Riot's had a history of trying to fuck over the competition, this is just another notch in the belt.


How is this another notch in the belt? They did nothing wrong here, they didn't have an exclusive contract with PAX, Valve and Blizzard just didn't pay to have there games to be played there.
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Laszx
Profile Joined May 2013
Belgium24 Posts
September 01 2013 13:05 GMT
#66
Bandwidth issues? Are they actually serious?

Look at this:




They had the bandwidth to download & install all those games but not DoTA2? Yeah right.
theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
September 01 2013 13:06 GMT
#67
On September 01 2013 21:59 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 21:52 Plansix wrote:
This thread has spawned a reddit thread about the same subject:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1licwa/no_sc2_and_dota2_at_pax/

Even though this thread started due to an initial reddit post. Pitchforking at its finest. Meanwhile, Penny Arcade cleared this up on their site in regards to bandwidth and that some games without Lan are not on the PCs, like BF3:

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/27572111/#Comment_27572111

We did it all for the drama.


Pretty sure the reddit OP (jesusfromnazareth) is also theking1, considering his last posts have been bashing MLG... lol


mlg is begining to piss off the dota 2 community by the way they organized fullsail and columbus . Did you see the fullsail teams?And they haven't even organized the first dota 2 tournament yet.With all the growth of scene talk adam was doing on reddit MLG will have to rely only on invited teams to get any viewers at columbus.Not to mention they have to dodge better known dota 2 tournaments and to provide a bigger prize pool than for sc2.200 bucks says that by next year the dota2 community will be asking for sundances head.
sertman
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States540 Posts
September 01 2013 13:07 GMT
#68
On September 01 2013 22:06 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 21:59 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On September 01 2013 21:52 Plansix wrote:
This thread has spawned a reddit thread about the same subject:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1licwa/no_sc2_and_dota2_at_pax/

Even though this thread started due to an initial reddit post. Pitchforking at its finest. Meanwhile, Penny Arcade cleared this up on their site in regards to bandwidth and that some games without Lan are not on the PCs, like BF3:

http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/27572111/#Comment_27572111

We did it all for the drama.


Pretty sure the reddit OP (jesusfromnazareth) is also theking1, considering his last posts have been bashing MLG... lol


mlg is begining to piss off the dota 2 community by the way they organized fullsail and columbus . Did you see the fullsail teams?And they haven't even organized the first dota 2 tournament yet.With all the growth of scene talk adam was doing on reddit MLG will have to rely only on invited teams to get any viewers at columbus.Not to mention they have to dodge better known dota 2 tournaments and to provide a bigger prize pool than for sc2.200 bucks says that by next year the dota2 community will be asking for sundances head.


oh yeah it's completely out of character for MLG to run invite-only events...................................
barnix
Profile Joined September 2013
1 Post
September 01 2013 13:12 GMT
#69
On September 01 2013 21:58 RockIronrod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 21:56 saddaromma wrote:
cannot understand people here. LoL is free, riot cares about its players, the game is always improving. Totally opposite of sc2. And you blame riot, wtf?!

Er, what does any of that have to do with shady undercutting of competitors?
Riot's had a history of trying to fuck over the competition, this is just another notch in the belt.


i don't think anyone can legitimately say that riot is undercutting dota2. if valve isn't paying for the bandwidth for dota 2 then it's not riots fault. additionally it's completely logical that riot is spending so much more to compete with dota2 than valve. dota2 is probably a miniscule portion of valves profit while lol is obviously all of riot's. the lengths they will go to are going to be a lot more extreme compared to valve and blizz just because of their respective business models.

if, however it comes out that riot purposely paid to not have dota2 there and pax accepted these terms it probably gets a lot shadier.
NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
September 01 2013 13:13 GMT
#70
No Dota 2... but at least there's Peggle Deluxe! +1 Valve
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
September 01 2013 13:14 GMT
#71
On September 01 2013 22:05 Laszx wrote:
Bandwidth issues? Are they actually serious?

Look at this:

https://twitter.com/PurgeGamers/status/374041498112651264


They had the bandwidth to download & install all those games but not DoTA2? Yeah right.


They have lots of time in advance to install the games on the machines. They do not have the bandwidth for 700+ people on computer playing multiplayer games plus the bandwidth to help run the entire convention. The only games that are allowed to be played online are the games where the companies paid for bandwidth or made custom servers, all the other games are played on lan or are single player. Read before you shit post
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theking1
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania658 Posts
September 01 2013 13:14 GMT
#72
On September 01 2013 22:12 barnix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 21:58 RockIronrod wrote:
On September 01 2013 21:56 saddaromma wrote:
cannot understand people here. LoL is free, riot cares about its players, the game is always improving. Totally opposite of sc2. And you blame riot, wtf?!

Er, what does any of that have to do with shady undercutting of competitors?
Riot's had a history of trying to fuck over the competition, this is just another notch in the belt.


i don't think anyone can legitimately say that riot is undercutting dota2. if valve isn't paying for the bandwidth for dota 2 then it's not riots fault. additionally it's completely logical that riot is spending so much more to compete with dota2 than valve. dota2 is probably a miniscule portion of valves profit while lol is obviously all of riot's. the lengths they will go to are going to be a lot more extreme compared to valve and blizz just because of their respective business models.

if, however it comes out that riot purposely paid to not have dota2 there and pax accepted these terms it probably gets a lot shadier.


from what I have seen during the international,the dota2 people can raise a lot of money really fast especially for the esport aspect of dota2.

Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 13:16:43
September 01 2013 13:16 GMT
#73
Sounds like some Dota elitism here.

They have League instead of Dota, grab the pitchforks.

Seriously, who cares? Their excuse sounds very reasonable and league is by far the more popular game.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
September 01 2013 13:17 GMT
#74
On September 01 2013 22:14 theking1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 22:12 barnix wrote:
On September 01 2013 21:58 RockIronrod wrote:
On September 01 2013 21:56 saddaromma wrote:
cannot understand people here. LoL is free, riot cares about its players, the game is always improving. Totally opposite of sc2. And you blame riot, wtf?!

Er, what does any of that have to do with shady undercutting of competitors?
Riot's had a history of trying to fuck over the competition, this is just another notch in the belt.


i don't think anyone can legitimately say that riot is undercutting dota2. if valve isn't paying for the bandwidth for dota 2 then it's not riots fault. additionally it's completely logical that riot is spending so much more to compete with dota2 than valve. dota2 is probably a miniscule portion of valves profit while lol is obviously all of riot's. the lengths they will go to are going to be a lot more extreme compared to valve and blizz just because of their respective business models.

if, however it comes out that riot purposely paid to not have dota2 there and pax accepted these terms it probably gets a lot shadier.


from what I have seen during the international,the dota2 people can raise a lot of money really fast especially for the esport aspect of dota2.



Yeah they raise a lot of money for esports through dota2 but all that money is considered miniscule compared to the rest of the money valve makes through steam and selling their own games
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cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 13:23:40
September 01 2013 13:19 GMT
#75
since only Dota2 Fans posting in this Thread here...why is it on sc2 forums. SC2 Players doesnt seem to care about this event. By the way i never heard of this event before...!?!

Edit: EG is on PAX
https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses

I think they represent SC2 ;-)
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 01 2013 13:31 GMT
#76
This makes no difference imo.
People like me that play Dota and dislike Riot for throwing money at companies to avoid the possibility of people watching and playing Dota and finding it more interesting, will continue to play Dota and dislike Riot.

People that play LoL and feel that Riot are trying their best to support a thriving esports scene, and are merely sponsoring their game to be played at Pax, will continue to play LoL and like Riot.

People that don't like MOBA's and don't really care either way, will continue to not care either way.
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
September 01 2013 13:37 GMT
#77
On September 01 2013 22:19 cutler wrote:
since only Dota2 Fans posting in this Thread here...why is it on sc2 forums. SC2 Players doesnt seem to care about this event. By the way i never heard of this event before...!?!

Edit: EG is on PAX
https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses

I think they represent SC2 ;-)


EG has a PAX exhibit, this thread 'was' referring to the PC area (where anyone can sit down and play games).
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
September 01 2013 13:38 GMT
#78
oh no, no dota2/sc2 at a pax, WOW MY LIFE IS RUINED.

people need better things to do with their time. what does this matter in the grand scheme of things?
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 01 2013 13:41 GMT
#79
On September 01 2013 22:38 zev318 wrote:
oh no, no dota2/sc2 at a pax, WOW MY LIFE IS RUINED.

people need better things to do with their time. what does this matter in the grand scheme of things?

Congrats, a post that lets you declare anything in the world to be irrelevant, all while arguing on the internet.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
September 01 2013 13:48 GMT
#80
Riot gives PAX a bunch of money and gets to showcase their only game
Valve saves money and players can play all of their games except one

sounds like a win-win to me
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