US Politics Mega-thread - Page 9638

On January 05 2018 23:26 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


A holiday is a predetermined day off. For example, most workplaces give a holiday for Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc; everyone will get a holiday off.

A vacation is the employee taking off on a day they normally have to work. Everyone has vacation days, but they won't all use them on the same day.

On January 05 2018 23:38 Velr wrote:
The quotet statistic was also not really accurate?

In Switzerland the law guarantees you 20 days and many companies end up giving 25, people over 50 also get 5 days more. There are several national Holidays where nearly everything is forced to close (like on Sundays). The only shops that are open on these are gasstations, restaurants and shops at big train stations.
The 24/7 "life" hasn't really arrived in large parts of europe yet and i hope it stais that way.

Btw: I got 40 days of paid vacation this year. Beat me :D.

On January 05 2018 23:47 iamthedave wrote:
I'm on a minimum wage job in the UK and get 26 paid days a year.

The US is backwards as hell on this subject. Work-life balance is a thing and it does matter.

On January 05 2018 23:54 pmh wrote:
Americans work harder and longer then most other nations. labour culture in usa is very different from Europe,maybe more similar to asia. It is one of the reasons why the usa economy is so competitive. If americans are used to this and are happy with it on average,then why change it?

On January 05 2018 23:56 Danglars wrote:

And you want the state to tell you what work-life balance looks like? Or you just want a work culture revolution in the US? We kind of mock that idea around these parts
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Americans are still worried about job security when it comes to taking time off. More than a quarter (26%) say they fear that taking vacation could make them appear less dedicated at work, just under a quarter (23%) say they do not want to be seen as replaceable, and more than a fifth (21%) say they worry they would lose consideration for a raise or promotion.
These fears may be unfounded, but leaders fail to correct the misconception. Two-thirds (66%) of employees feel that their company culture is ambivalent, discouraging, or sends mixed messages about time off, virtually unchanged since 2014. This culture of silence has created a vacuum where negative perceptions thrive.

A 26-year-old white man who attempted to commit a terror attack on an Amtrak train in rural Nebraska also attended the doomed “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, last August on the white supremacist side, according to a court document.

St. Charles, Missouri resident Taylor Michael Wilson has been charged with an attempt to commit terror by targeting an Amtrak train in southwest Nebraska in October 2017. FBI Special Agent Monte Czaplewski, writing in an affidavit attached to the criminal complaint, suggested that Wilson wanted to murder black people. The document suggests that he had weapons, as well as a National Socialist Movement (NSM) business card with him at the time he was arrested.

Wilson entered an engineer's seat of an Amtrak train after midnight on October 22and started "playing with the controls" of the train, according to Czaplewski’s account. No one was injured or killed in the attempted attack.

Newsweek reached out to NSM for a comment about the revelations but did not immediately receive a response. The group is neo-Nazi in nature, has ties to the more traditional American Nazi Party and has been connected to other elements of the modern, so-called alt-right movement at rallies and events.

Wilson traveled with that group to the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in August of last year, according to court documents. There, men chanted “Jews will not replace us” in the college city while marching with tiki torches on August 11, 2017. The following morning, fights broke out between white supremacist and antiracist counterprotesters. Later that day, a white man drove his car into a crowd of people, allegedly murdering Heather Heyer, an anti-racist activist.

The “alt-right,” a deeply anti-Semitic movement that calls for limited immigration, mass deportations and a new state for white, non-Jews only, has been attached to many violent incidents since the “Unite the Right” event collapsed into chaos. William Edward Atchison, who killed two students at his high school last year was a regular commenter on the neo-Nazi website Daily Stormer, according to The Daily Beast. Nicholas Giampa, a 17-year-old Virginia boy, allegedly murdered his girlfriend’s parents, Scott Fricker and Buckley Kuhn Fricker in a shooting incident that took place last month. He had a neo-Nazi social media presence, according to a report ny The Huffington Post. The shooter who killed a Douglas County deputy and wounded other law enforcement figures was attracted to an “alt-right” ideology, according to a local news reporter.

Wilson, the accused terrorist, was not likely just a casual supporter of alt-right politics. Czaplewski noted in his affidavit that the man also had a photo of a banner broadcasting white supremacist propaganda on his phone.

Within the context of street-level politics, there is some bizarre irony to Wilson’s arrest for attempting to commit terror on an Amtrak train. Figures loosely associated with the “alt-right” movement attempted to blame “Antifa,” or anti-fascist demonstrators, for a fatal Amtrak train derailment that took place in Washington state in December. The story, however, was quickly discovered to be fake news.

On January 06 2018 00:13 Diavlo wrote:

This commercial is so incredibly tone death...
Yeah I'm sure most people working minimum wages are doing for the sense of accomplishement and pride...

If the number of vacation days is set and mandatory, the culture of "vacation shaming" which is very prevalent in the US would be greatly diminished.


From: https://www.projecttimeoff.com/state-american-vacation-2017

On January 05 2018 23:56 Danglars wrote:

And you want the state to tell you what work-life balance looks like? Or you just want a work culture revolution in the US? We kind of mock that idea around these parts
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 05 2018 23:56 Danglars wrote:

And you want the state to tell you what work-life balance looks like? Or you just want a work culture revolution in the US? We kind of mock that idea around these parts
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 06 2018 00:30 Danglars wrote:

Or ... you need to expand your mind beyond minimum wage jobs to address issues if you're not just set on generalizing the ~3% of minimum wage workers to criticize the 90%? That's demagoguery, not discussion.

Lemme get some Breitbart sources to match your projecttimeoff.com sources, one second

On January 06 2018 00:30 Danglars wrote:

Or ... you need to expand your mind beyond minimum wage jobs to address issues if you're not just set on generalizing the ~3% of minimum wage workers to criticize the 90%? That's demagoguery, not discussion.

Lemme get some Breitbart sources to match your projecttimeoff.com sources, one second

On January 06 2018 01:05 Adreme wrote:


Its not just minimum wage workers who benefit from a boost to it. First off, a boost to it logically raises that participation number (I would also wonder if that 3% is the number making the federal minimum wage because the state minimum wage in so many states is higher already) but most of the time people making slightly above minimum wage have there wages tied to a minimum wage so for instance if I am making $2 over minimum wage I get a pay increase whenever that minimum wage goes up in order so that I continue making $2 over it.

we estimate that last year (2013) about 20.6 million people — 30% of all hourly, non-self-employed workers 18 and older — are in that “near-minimum-wage” category.

On January 05 2018 23:54 pmh wrote:
Americans work harder and longer then most other nations. labour culture in usa is very different from Europe,maybe more similar to asia. It is one of the reasons why the usa economy is so competitive. If americans are used to this and are happy with it on average,then why change it?