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On November 18 2017 07:33 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2017 07:31 Plansix wrote:On November 18 2017 07:22 IgnE wrote:On November 18 2017 05:29 Danglars wrote:
Hatch blew up at all the class warfare going on in his committee. i wish i could have paid for law school by being a janitor Back when you could buy the land for a house for about $3000 and build it for about 10-15K in the suburbs of Boston. Back when the minimum wage would have been well over 10$/hr today, instead of $7.50 I just did a quick search on my own house. The initial 2 acre plot was bought for $9000 in 1975. The entire house was built for 80K. You would be lucky to buy the land itself for 80K these days.
Hatch is so full of shit it is coming out his ears.
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On November 18 2017 07:34 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2017 07:22 IgnE wrote:i wish i could have paid for law school by being a janitor Among the kids I graduated with, those who did not donate hundreds of hours in unpaid internships have shown themselves to be at severe disadvantage. Makes Hatch's statement all the more ridiculous lol
it's also sad because those who work to put themselves through school these days tend to be the ones who are also less prepared for school and more likely to drop out. in comparison, it's almost a luxury (privilege might be a better word) to be be able to do low paid/ unpaid work that will boost your resume. there's not really a bootstraps story to be told here.
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So grab them by the pussy isn't an admission. Got it.
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On November 18 2017 08:12 Lmui wrote:So grab them by the pussy isn't an admission. Got it. No, what Trump did wasn't wrong. As a rich guy it was his right to grab them by the pussy.
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That bold play may not be paying off. We will have to see how the rest of this plays out Cotten.
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On November 18 2017 07:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Right. He joked about perjuring himself. Mmhmm.
Pretty funny segment though, thanks for sharing!
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I can understand the deflections to Hillary about Trump. They were direct competitors for the same office and it was only a year ago.
But I cannot for the life of me understand the deflections from Moore to Bill Clinton. It was almost 20 years ago when Clinton left office and I was 8. Like, do you expect young people to take a time machine back to 96 to vote him out?
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On November 18 2017 08:50 Nevuk wrote: I can understand the deflections to Hillary about Trump. They were direct competitors for the same office and it was only a year ago.
But I cannot for the life of me understand the deflections from Moore to Bill Clinton. It was almost 20 years ago when Clinton left office and I was 8. Like, do you expect young people to take a time machine back to 96 to vote him out? on average, young people vote far less than old people; and old people will remember. or maybe whataboutism needs to find a target, so they find the closest one they can, even if they have to go back quite aways. just guessing some explanations.
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He didn't even grow up "poor". He grew up middle class af. His mom didn't work, and him and his dad were part of the AFL-CIO.
His own bio on his site says he was a metal lather (a job he probably got because his daddy was in the union). He didn't pay for law school, he was on a full ride. He did manage to keep his job in the union as a metal lather and then additionally took on a janitorial job (and a desk clerk) to take care of the family he was raising with his wife who also didn't work.
I suspect a privileged life like that is what a lot of people in the Senate think of as "the poors"
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On November 18 2017 09:07 GreenHorizons wrote:He didn't even grow up "poor". He grew up middle class af. His mom didn't work, and him and his dad were part of the AFL-CIO. His own bio on his site says he was a metal lather (a job he probably got because his daddy was in the union). He didn't pay for law school, he was on a full ride. He did manage to keep his job in the union as a metal lather and then additionally took on a janitorial job (and a desk clerk) to take care of the family he was raising with his wife who also didn't work. I suspect a privileged life like that is what a lot of people in the Senate think of as "the poors" Romney's 'I once used a door as a table so I was poor to".
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Upper middle class is basically where society for people like this starts so everybody else is completely out of their mindset. Given that the lower income half of the households does not pay taxes at all it's clear that is always aimed at people already relatively high up on the scale. Everybody who is genuinely impoverished has no real representation.
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I dunno, sounded like a bunch of rich butthurt to me.
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African-American men serve longer sentences than white men for the same crime, a new study by the U.S Sentencing Commission shows.
The commission's analysis of demographic prison data from 2012 to 2016 found that black men serve sentences that are on average 19.1 percent longer than those for white men for similar crimes.
The racial disparity in sentencing can't be accounted for by whether an offender has a history of violence, according to the study by the commission, an independent bipartisan agency that is part of the U.S. federal judiciary branch.
When accounting for violence in an offender's past, black men received sentences that were on average 20.4 percent longer than that of white men, according to the commission's analysis of fiscal year 2016 data, the only year for which such data is available.
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On November 18 2017 09:18 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +African-American men serve longer sentences than white men for the same crime, a new study by the U.S Sentencing Commission shows.
The commission's analysis of demographic prison data from 2012 to 2016 found that black men serve sentences that are on average 19.1 percent longer than those for white men for similar crimes.
The racial disparity in sentencing can't be accounted for by whether an offender has a history of violence, according to the study by the commission, an independent bipartisan agency that is part of the U.S. federal judiciary branch.
When accounting for violence in an offender's past, black men received sentences that were on average 20.4 percent longer than that of white men, according to the commission's analysis of fiscal year 2016 data, the only year for which such data is available.
Source Water is wet, despite many members of congress, law enforcement and Americans in general claiming it isn't.
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I want to hear more about how the kneeling was about disrespect to the flag and our nation, and not about what black people deal with in their every encounter with police and the penal system.
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On November 18 2017 09:37 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2017 09:18 GreenHorizons wrote:African-American men serve longer sentences than white men for the same crime, a new study by the U.S Sentencing Commission shows.
The commission's analysis of demographic prison data from 2012 to 2016 found that black men serve sentences that are on average 19.1 percent longer than those for white men for similar crimes.
The racial disparity in sentencing can't be accounted for by whether an offender has a history of violence, according to the study by the commission, an independent bipartisan agency that is part of the U.S. federal judiciary branch.
When accounting for violence in an offender's past, black men received sentences that were on average 20.4 percent longer than that of white men, according to the commission's analysis of fiscal year 2016 data, the only year for which such data is available.
Source Water is wet, despite many members of congress, law enforcement and Americans in general claiming it isn't.
You use "wet" so much to include everything from a blood soaked carpet, to vaginas, to PCP. The word basically has no meaning, so saying water is wet is dumb and I don't believe you.
Show me the statistics that prove water is wet and not moist or a neuro-illusion combining sensations of cold and texture to trick us into perceiving "wetness".
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I wonder which one of his newfound friends told him it was unfair?
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