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Nevuk
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m4ini
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On July 01 2017 00:06 Plansix wrote: If you read them without your partisan bias, you can see what he is trying to do. It is clear if you are critical of your own biases. Like myself, a Trump supporter. Did you just assume my bias? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Plansix
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My Intellectual Honesty has reached such a level that I can see other people’s biases through a hyper rational lens, disregarding viewpoints that are based on entrenched, irrational partisan bias. It is critical to do so maintain this level of self critique. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On July 01 2017 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: This is why I say Ian Bremmer is the village idiot. https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/880798514359533569 Please Please Please tell me he taped the WH calls. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 01 2017 00:07 Nevuk wrote: Honestly Trump doesn't realize how precarious his position is. If the economy takes a serious downturn he's probably going to be instantly impeached. The only reason the GOP is getting away with their "I see no evil, I have my eyes closed" act is that things are actually going fairly well for the majority of Americans. He'd be a greater fool to actually believe this reasoning. Only a huge economic downturn/scandal that prompts a Democratic sweep of the House would prompt impeachment (and the subject will nonetheless be a backdrop for the 2018 election). Everything else is fatuous wishcasting. He's in there till 2020 with high likelihood, secondly because the remove part of the process won't happen without a doubly doubtful change in the Senate makeup. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
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Plansix
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On July 01 2017 00:38 Plansix wrote: Any attempt to impose those tariffs without congressional input will be met with lawsuits from almost every state. And if he does it now, the healthcare bill and tax reform are dead. Then we should hope that it happens, yes? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 01 2017 00:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Then we should hope that it happens, yes? As funny as it would be to watch them fight, no. That is a level of disruption to the economy that would really harm people. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 01 2017 00:28 Danglars wrote: He'd be a greater fool to actually believe this reasoning. Only a huge economic downturn/scandal that prompts a Democratic sweep of the House would prompt impeachment (and the subject will nonetheless be a backdrop for the 2018 election). Everything else is fatuous wishcasting. He's in there till 2020 with high likelihood, secondly because the remove part of the process won't happen without a doubly doubtful change in the Senate makeup. I feel like that is a possibility if a trade war occurs. I'm imagining something like the gas crisis in the 70s that ruined Carter - it wasn't even technically Carter's fault, but everyone blamed him for it. A trade war is incredibly easy to understand who to blame in this situation | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 30 2017 23:20 Gorsameth wrote: A repeal without replace has less chance of happening then even the shittiest repeal + replace. There is no spinning "everyone except the 1% is fucked". At least the CBO says a repeal vs current attempts at repeal and replace will still end with roughly the same change in number covered  | ||
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farvacola
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On July 01 2017 00:42 Plansix wrote: As funny as it would be to watch them fight, no. That is a level of disruption to the economy that would really harm people. Wouldn't it be better for it t start now and try to correct the mistakes with time rather than for it to build up and explode as was the case in 2008? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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TheTenthDoc
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{CC}StealthBlue
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pmh
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This is a funny list,congratz to Canada! The Netherlands is not doing that bad at 9,at least we still made the top 10. I am not surprised to see many scandinavian countries in the list. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 01 2017 00:43 Nevuk wrote: I feel like that is a possibility if a trade war occurs. I'm imagining something like the gas crisis in the 70s that ruined Carter - it wasn't even technically Carter's fault, but everyone blamed him for it. A trade war is incredibly easy to understand who to blame in this situation Then I misinterpreted what you meant by "instantly impeach" because it didn't sound like your timing was a regular election cycle. As an aside, I think Carter got his deserved blame for his economic troubles, for inheriting something bad and making it worse. Trump may do the same with stupid, shortsighted trade policy (or something else, who knows with his economic protectionism). | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On July 01 2017 00:53 farvacola wrote: Yes, every plan proposed by Republicans is similarly terrible. "No matter what Republicans propose" is fatuous nonsense, to borrow a pedantic word. You don't find it even a little funny that a full repeal vs a very expensive Obamacare 2.0 gets the same coverage score? I don't even like the bill and was rolling my eyes. To play off your post, you don't have to act like a humorlous bore even if it's politics. | ||
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. Going full scorched earth tactics on Obamacare soon it seems
