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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
January 09 2014 03:53 GMT
#15361
On January 09 2014 09:06 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 07:51 farvacola wrote:
It surprises me not at all that Danglars is unable to see the problem in how income is so heavily affected by work over the already daily allotment. That we are one of the worlds most overworked nations is nothing to be proud of.
Yes, we most certainly must ban people from working longer hours and very specific spans because it is discriminatory towards women. We most certainly should implement a mandatory daily quota and ban every ounce of pay beyond it--make it illegal. Only then can we say we are in a post-glass-ceiling world.

I'm sure, as you are clearly interested in reducing the gender pay gap, that you read the paper with alarm. My local feminists had not previously informed me either that the "incentive to disproportionately reward individuals who labored long hours and worked particular hours" was a critical influence in depressing women's wages the gender wage gap. The article does not go far enough in exploring government solutions towards equality in this area. This oversight may soon put Claudia Goldin in the ranks of the Paglia's.


In Danglar's world, more work is always good, and those willing to work the most should be reward the most. If you are a woman who wants to raise a family and simply can't work as much as men, so be it. What Danglars fails to realize is that the only reason men can do so much productive work is that women are the ones doing all the reproductive work. Reproductive work is more than the work of simply reproducing the species, it involves taking care of the home, cooking, cleaning, providing emotional support, listening, cherishing, raising kids, or otherwise the "work" of living. Business owners and managers reflect the societal values that elevate productive work while denigrating reproductive work, as reproductive work does not get any financial compensation. Danglars makes this about "feminism" and women rather than seeing the more fundamental points that 1) reproductive work is the hidden work that allows society function despite not being valued, so paying a certain class of people to 60 or 80 hours a week of productive work relies upon an unpaid segment of the population that takes care of those ambitious workers by doing their reproductive labor for them, and 2) women, socially, are shunted into this uncompensated labor role more than men.

You want to know why birth rates are declining in modern, westernized countries? You want to know why "family values," that the right so loves to talk about in America are deteriorating? The answer is not birth control and rap music, in that order. You are overvaluing productive labor at the expense of reproductive labor. You are forcing people to choose between more work and building families and rich personal lives. But for you it's okay because it makes the owner richer. Profits continue to soar for the capitalist class, but at least in Danglar's world all is ok, because those who work more get paid more.
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
January 09 2014 03:54 GMT
#15362
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 09 2014 03:59 GMT
#15363
On January 09 2014 12:53 IgnE wrote:
You want to know why birth rates are declining in modern, westernized countries? You want to know why "family values," that the right so loves to talk about in America are deteriorating? The answer is not birth control and rap music, in that order. You are overvaluing productive labor at the expense of reproductive labor. You are forcing people to choose between more work and building families and rich personal lives. But for you it's okay because it makes the owner richer. Profits continue to soar for the capitalist class, but at least in Danglar's world all is ok, because those who work more get paid more.

As a father of two, I can't argue that the little fuckers aren't expensive.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
January 09 2014 04:00 GMT
#15364
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 09 2014 04:01 GMT
#15365
On January 09 2014 12:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 12:31 sam!zdat wrote:
the only two things you can imagine in the world are a) working and b) drugs?

Apparently there's also c) telling others how to live.


that's the thing i get paid for, it's called being a member of the priesthood, i.e. a teacher
shikata ga nai
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 04:08:25
January 09 2014 04:07 GMT
#15366
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 09 2014 04:08 GMT
#15367
On January 09 2014 12:53 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 09:06 Danglars wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:51 farvacola wrote:
It surprises me not at all that Danglars is unable to see the problem in how income is so heavily affected by work over the already daily allotment. That we are one of the worlds most overworked nations is nothing to be proud of.
Yes, we most certainly must ban people from working longer hours and very specific spans because it is discriminatory towards women. We most certainly should implement a mandatory daily quota and ban every ounce of pay beyond it--make it illegal. Only then can we say we are in a post-glass-ceiling world.

I'm sure, as you are clearly interested in reducing the gender pay gap, that you read the paper with alarm. My local feminists had not previously informed me either that the "incentive to disproportionately reward individuals who labored long hours and worked particular hours" was a critical influence in depressing women's wages the gender wage gap. The article does not go far enough in exploring government solutions towards equality in this area. This oversight may soon put Claudia Goldin in the ranks of the Paglia's.


In Danglar's world, more work is always good, and those willing to work the most should be reward the most. If you are a woman who wants to raise a family and simply can't work as much as men, so be it. What Danglars fails to realize is that the only reason men can do so much productive work is that women are the ones doing all the reproductive work. Reproductive work is more than the work of simply reproducing the species, it involves taking care of the home, cooking, cleaning, providing emotional support, listening, cherishing, raising kids, or otherwise the "work" of living. Business owners and managers reflect the societal values that elevate productive work while denigrating reproductive work, as reproductive work does not get any financial compensation. Danglars makes this about "feminism" and women rather than seeing the more fundamental points that 1) reproductive work is the hidden work that allows society function despite not being valued, so paying a certain class of people to 60 or 80 hours a week of productive work relies upon an unpaid segment of the population that takes care of those ambitious workers by doing their reproductive labor for them, and 2) women, socially, are shunted into this uncompensated labor role more than men.

You want to know why birth rates are declining in modern, westernized countries? You want to know why "family values," that the right so loves to talk about in America are deteriorating? The answer is not birth control and rap music, in that order. You are overvaluing productive labor at the expense of reproductive labor. You are forcing people to choose between more work and building families and rich personal lives. But for you it's okay because it makes the owner richer. Profits continue to soar for the capitalist class, but at least in Danglar's world all is ok, because those who work more get paid more.
The first thing that comes to mind is, "So what are you going to do about it, IgnE?" This great biological conspiracy to keep the gender wage gap afloat, what are you going to do about it? Women will find it hard to breastfeed and earn 6 figures besides. The jobs involved in reproduction (I'm looking past all the conflation between reproductive work and sensible division of labor) doesn't cause the emotional support to suddenly cause dollars to rain down from heaven.

I mean, let me offer you a tissue at this great biological injustice, but I can hardly find it relevant. I'm talking about Jonny's article--individuals rewarded at greater rates than the simple extra hours they put in. Incentivize workers that can do it to do it, and stay with the company, and we have a great contributor to the gap. Now, you're scurrying for the rabbit hole to bring up declining birth rates, underappreciated housework, and all these evil evils that are evil because ... working the overtime is causing compensation several times longer? Point your finger at God (sorry, evolutionary impartiality) for making women to bear children. Don't project the other factors (besides willingness to work long hours/odd hours) as some failure of wage labor; they aren't.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 09 2014 04:10 GMT
#15368
On January 09 2014 13:07 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?


then that's not work
shikata ga nai
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 09 2014 04:10 GMT
#15369
On January 09 2014 12:53 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 09:06 Danglars wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:51 farvacola wrote:
It surprises me not at all that Danglars is unable to see the problem in how income is so heavily affected by work over the already daily allotment. That we are one of the worlds most overworked nations is nothing to be proud of.
Yes, we most certainly must ban people from working longer hours and very specific spans because it is discriminatory towards women. We most certainly should implement a mandatory daily quota and ban every ounce of pay beyond it--make it illegal. Only then can we say we are in a post-glass-ceiling world.

I'm sure, as you are clearly interested in reducing the gender pay gap, that you read the paper with alarm. My local feminists had not previously informed me either that the "incentive to disproportionately reward individuals who labored long hours and worked particular hours" was a critical influence in depressing women's wages the gender wage gap. The article does not go far enough in exploring government solutions towards equality in this area. This oversight may soon put Claudia Goldin in the ranks of the Paglia's.


In Danglar's world, more work is always good, and those willing to work the most should be reward the most. If you are a woman who wants to raise a family and simply can't work as much as men, so be it. What Danglars fails to realize is that the only reason men can do so much productive work is that women are the ones doing all the reproductive work. Reproductive work is more than the work of simply reproducing the species, it involves taking care of the home, cooking, cleaning, providing emotional support, listening, cherishing, raising kids, or otherwise the "work" of living. Business owners and managers reflect the societal values that elevate productive work while denigrating reproductive work, as reproductive work does not get any financial compensation. Danglars makes this about "feminism" and women rather than seeing the more fundamental points that 1) reproductive work is the hidden work that allows society function despite not being valued, so paying a certain class of people to 60 or 80 hours a week of productive work relies upon an unpaid segment of the population that takes care of those ambitious workers by doing their reproductive labor for them, and 2) women, socially, are shunted into this uncompensated labor role more than men.

You want to know why birth rates are declining in modern, westernized countries? You want to know why "family values," that the right so loves to talk about in America are deteriorating? The answer is not birth control and rap music, in that order. You are overvaluing productive labor at the expense of reproductive labor. You are forcing people to choose between more work and building families and rich personal lives. But for you it's okay because it makes the owner richer. Profits continue to soar for the capitalist class, but at least in Danglar's world all is ok, because those who work more get paid more.

tldr - current economic system's model of labour is too narrow to guide society towards igne's utopia: unpaid ovaries.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 09 2014 04:11 GMT
#15370
On January 09 2014 13:01 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 12:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:31 sam!zdat wrote:
the only two things you can imagine in the world are a) working and b) drugs?

Apparently there's also c) telling others how to live.


that's the thing i get paid for, it's called being a member of the priesthood, i.e. a teacher

Ahh, well good to see you here putting in the overtime then
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
January 09 2014 04:11 GMT
#15371
On January 09 2014 13:10 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:07 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?


then that's not work


Please define work
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 04:14:17
January 09 2014 04:12 GMT
#15372
On January 09 2014 13:11 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:01 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:31 sam!zdat wrote:
the only two things you can imagine in the world are a) working and b) drugs?

Apparently there's also c) telling others how to live.


that's the thing i get paid for, it's called being a member of the priesthood, i.e. a teacher

Ahh, well good to see you here putting in the overtime then


my life is overtime. not that any of you philistines are grateful

edit:
On January 09 2014 13:11 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:10 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:07 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?


then that's not work


Please define work


what do you do
shikata ga nai
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 04:16:19
January 09 2014 04:16 GMT
#15373
On January 09 2014 13:12 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:11 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:01 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:31 sam!zdat wrote:
the only two things you can imagine in the world are a) working and b) drugs?

Apparently there's also c) telling others how to live.


that's the thing i get paid for, it's called being a member of the priesthood, i.e. a teacher

Ahh, well good to see you here putting in the overtime then


my life is overtime. not that any of you philistines are grateful

edit:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:11 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:10 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:07 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?


then that's not work


Please define work


what do you do


Unless your name is Socrates I'm not playing that game with you. Define "work"
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 09 2014 04:18 GMT
#15374
On January 09 2014 13:16 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:11 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:01 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:31 sam!zdat wrote:
the only two things you can imagine in the world are a) working and b) drugs?

Apparently there's also c) telling others how to live.


that's the thing i get paid for, it's called being a member of the priesthood, i.e. a teacher

Ahh, well good to see you here putting in the overtime then


my life is overtime. not that any of you philistines are grateful

edit:
On January 09 2014 13:11 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:10 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:07 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?


then that's not work


Please define work


what do you do


Unless your name is Socrates I'm not playing that game with you. Define "work"


ok don't play. why argue with a man who won't say where he stands?
shikata ga nai
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 09 2014 04:18 GMT
#15375
On January 09 2014 13:16 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:11 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:01 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:31 sam!zdat wrote:
the only two things you can imagine in the world are a) working and b) drugs?

Apparently there's also c) telling others how to live.


that's the thing i get paid for, it's called being a member of the priesthood, i.e. a teacher

Ahh, well good to see you here putting in the overtime then


my life is overtime. not that any of you philistines are grateful

edit:
On January 09 2014 13:11 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:10 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:07 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?


then that's not work


Please define work


what do you do


Unless your name is Socrates I'm not playing that game with you. Define "work"

I bet it depends on what your definition of "is" is
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
January 09 2014 04:18 GMT
#15376
On January 09 2014 13:18 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 13:16 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:12 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:11 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:01 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:47 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:31 sam!zdat wrote:
the only two things you can imagine in the world are a) working and b) drugs?

Apparently there's also c) telling others how to live.


that's the thing i get paid for, it's called being a member of the priesthood, i.e. a teacher

Ahh, well good to see you here putting in the overtime then


my life is overtime. not that any of you philistines are grateful

edit:
On January 09 2014 13:11 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:10 sam!zdat wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:07 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 13:00 Roe wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:54 Ghostcom wrote:
On January 09 2014 12:24 sam!zdat wrote:
so we should do less of it


Find a job you enjoy.


How about just find meaning and value in life, trying to be a moral person, and investigating the issues of human conditions, instead of pinning your life to the requirement of age 21-60 living in service of society, 60+ wilt away and die.


I feel sorry for you if that is your perspective on working.

I work for my own happiness. I love my work. I am still amazed that I am being paid so much for doing something I enjoy so immensely. I am probably either going to be forced into retirement or just never retire at all.

Who are you or sam!zdat to tell me that I shouldn't be happy working? Do either of you really have the audacity to claim to have some secret knowledge of what constitutes a good life?


then that's not work


Please define work


what do you do


Unless your name is Socrates I'm not playing that game with you. Define "work"


ok don't play. why argue with a man who won't say where he stands?


Indeed, why?
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 04:21:13
January 09 2014 04:20 GMT
#15377
all i'm saying, the one we're concerned about probably isn't YOU. if you like something, do it for free
shikata ga nai
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 09 2014 04:25 GMT
#15378
First responders were delayed in responding to at least four medical emergencies due to the lane closures on the George Washington Bridge in September that have been linked to one of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's (R) political feuds.

The delays were detailed in a letter from EMS coordinator Paul Favia to Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich. It was obtained by the Bergen Record and dated Sept. 10, the second day Fort Lee was consumed by gridlock due to the lane closures.

In one instance, it took EMS workers seven minutes to get to a 91-year-old woman who was unconscious and eventually died of cardiac arrest at a hospital.

On Sept, 9, the first day the lanes were shut, Favia wrote that it took seven to nine minutes for workers to reach the scene of an accident where four people were injured when the normal response time would have been under four minutes. That same day, Favia wrote that "standstill traffic" caused it to take nearly an hour for emergency workers to reach a person with chest pains.

Favia also detailed a delayed response time that occurred on Sept. 10. On that day, Favia wrote, it took seven minutes to respond to a call from someone with chest pains when it normally would have taken four minutes or less.


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Ghostcom
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Denmark4783 Posts
January 09 2014 04:28 GMT
#15379
On January 09 2014 13:20 sam!zdat wrote:
all i'm saying, the one we're concerned about probably isn't YOU. if you like something, do it for free


I don't see a definition of "work" in there - unless I am to interpret that "work" is something you dislike doing but get paid to do.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 09 2014 04:28 GMT
#15380
On January 09 2014 13:28 Ghostcom wrote:
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On January 09 2014 13:20 sam!zdat wrote:
all i'm saying, the one we're concerned about probably isn't YOU. if you like something, do it for free


I don't see a definition of "work" in there - unless I am to interpret that "work" is something you dislike doing but get paid to do.


i don't peddle in definitions
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