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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
"Assad must go." "And then what?" "I don't know but Assad must go, we'll figure that out later." "That's worked pretty badly in the past though..." "Yes but Assad must go." US could have easily removed Assad before Russia even had the opportunity to intervene, back when Russia really would not have been willing to go in. US had the chance, they failed to get the result they wanted because they didn't plan well. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
If Bernie was 5 years younger I'd have no problem supporting him for 2020. still though way way too early. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24505 Posts
On April 01 2017 06:12 WolfintheSheep wrote: As far as I was aware, impeachment is the act of charging a high government official, not the act of removing them from their position. And Nixon was investigated and charged, was he not? You're right, I just mean that they resigned and not that they were convicted of what they were impeached for. But still making the same point. EDIT: On this Pence thing, we all know that if Keith Ellison had the same rule and it was because of Islam people would throw a fit. | ||
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Plansix
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
On April 01 2017 06:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Apparently it was Major Garrett question regarding Flynn's immunity that made this happen. https://twitter.com/politico/status/847922615960428544 He turned and headed towards the door to leave before the question was asked tho. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On April 01 2017 07:03 Gorsameth wrote: He turned and headed towards the door to leave before the question was asked tho. He was asking a 2nd time. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
Sigh, yay for twitter and cutting everything so short that there is no context left... | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
the tweet he's referencing hopefully Krugman comments on this tomorrow with an explanation of how the economy works. I feel bad for anyone who thinks that actually demonstrates something good for the administration | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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KwarK
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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TheYango
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On April 01 2017 09:20 TheYango wrote: Also considering how they've been criticizing Obama as the worst thing ever for the past 8 years, saying "At least he's not as bad as Obama!" seems like a rather halfhearted endorsement. It's more like "Obama is this bad whereas look how good things are under Trump." Of course, three years from now it might look very different... | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On April 01 2017 06:24 Shield wrote: I'm just reading that the US may support Assad. That might actually be a good idea. I enjoy democracy, but the Middle East is too wild for that. Religion shouldn't be so dominant there for democracy to work. American foreign-policy is on lockdown. Nothing changes. Trump has a lot of foreign policy plans, but until (or if) he gets absolution from the Congressional investigation and the intelligence agencies, they're worthless. His hands are tied, and will be for quite a long time. Which is why I hope he doesn't get impeached. We don't need to impeach Trump to prevent him from destroying our alliances for the sake of being friendly with Eastern despots. Trump's BS with NATO is embarrassing, but that's all it is and all it will ever be. So, taking that away, what you're left with is a President who is easily manipulated and extremely vain. And this could make opportunity for the Democrats that they'd never get with some patsy like Mike Pence. Mike Pence and the like will toe the Republican line until they're dead. Trump, there's always that chance that someone could convince him, by playing to his ego, that he'll be a Great Leader if he makes actual effort to work with Democrats to pass decent, working legislation. I'm not saying it will happen, but there is a hope, a hope that doesn't exist with typical Republican leaders. The challenge is getting him away from the poisonous Breitbart crap. So, as long as Trump knows his Putin-bullshit is dead in the water, I honestly hope he sticks around. Schmucky pervert that he is. It could even lead to an interesting dynamic where Republicans are the ones trying to get rid of him. Because, if they're smart, they certainly don't want him around in 2020. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On April 01 2017 06:45 GreenHorizons wrote: EDIT: On this Pence thing, we all know that if Keith Ellison had the same rule and it was because of Islam people would throw a fit. Such religious purity represents a threat to Western civilization because it goes against our norms of social interaction among all people. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On April 01 2017 09:46 Leporello wrote: American foreign-policy is on lockdown. Nothing changes. Trump has a lot of foreign policy plans, but until (or if) he gets absolution from the Congressional investigation and the intelligence agencies, they're worthless. His hands are tied, and will be for quite a long time. Which is why I hope he doesn't get impeached. We don't need to impeach Trump to prevent him from destroying our alliances for the sake of being friendly with Eastern despots. Trump's BS with NATO is embarrassing, but that's all it is and all it will ever be. So, taking that away, what you're left with is a President who is easily manipulated and extremely vain. And this could make opportunity for the Democrats that they'd never get with some patsy like Mike Pence. Mike Pence and the like will toe the Republican line until they're dead. Trump, there's always that chance that someone could convince him, by playing to his ego, that he'll be a Great Leader if he makes actual effort to work with Democrats to pass decent, working legislation. I'm not saying it will happen, but there is a hope, a hope that doesn't exist with typical Republican leaders. The challenge is getting him away from the poisonous Breitbart crap. So, as long as Trump knows his Putin-bullshit is dead in the water, I honestly hope he sticks around. Schmucky pervert that he is. It could even lead to an interesting dynamic where Republicans are the ones trying to get rid of him. Because, if they're smart, they certainly don't want him around in 2020. Tillerson literally said 'I think the status and longer-term status of President Assad will be determined by the Syrian people". I don't know exactly which question he was answering, but according to Kremlin propaganda this means that the US goal in Syria is now essentially limited to defeating ISIS. Last time I heard John Kerry speak (that was the previous Secretary of State, right?), I think he was still quite openly hostile to Assad and pretty much talking about his unconditional removal and complaining (lying) about how the Russians weren't fighting terrorists in Syria. I'd say that's a bit of a change in tone, at least. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On April 01 2017 09:11 Gahlo wrote: Seems silly to me to add a ~51% more expensive average house for Trump when you're setting up a misleading board in his favor. because of mortgages and stuff a higher house value is a good thing. or something like that. It's widely used for economic indicators. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
WikiLeaks’ latest disclosure of CIA cyber-tools reveals a technique used by the agency to hide its digital tracks, potentially blowing the cover on current and past hacking operations aimed at gathering intelligence on terrorists and other foreign targets. The release Friday of the CIA’s “Marble Framework” comes less than a month after the WikiLeaks dumped onto the Internet a trove of files — dubbed “Vault 7” — that described the type of malware and methods the CIA uses to gain access to targets’ phones, computers and other electronic devices. [WikiLeaks says it has obtained trove of CIA hacking tools] “This appears to be one of the most technically damaging leaks ever done by WikiLeaks, as it seems designed to directly disrupt ongoing CIA operations and attribute previous operations,” said Nicholas Weaver, a computer security researcher at the University of California at Berkeley. The material includes the secret source code of an “obfuscation” technique used by the CIA so its malware can evade detection by anti-virus systems. The technique is used by all professional hackers, whether they work for the National Security Agency, Moscow’s FSB security agency or the Chinese military. But because the code contains a specific algorithm — a digital fingerprint of sorts — it can now be used to identify CIA hacking operations that had previously been detected but not attributed. “It’s one thing to say, ‘I got hacked.’ It’s another thing to say, ‘I got hacked by the CIA,’ ” said Jake Williams, founder of Rendition InfoSec, a cybersecurity firm. “I suspect this could cause some foreign policy issues down the road.” Source Nice 180 from our favorite left-leaning media. Those who would have been so supportive of "transparency" in the past now are the biggest warmest most kindest defenders of the status quo imaginable. It's the party of Clinton. | ||
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