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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 21:27:21
April 01 2017 21:24 GMT
#144821
On April 02 2017 04:47 biology]major wrote:
So let's say Flynn actively conspired with the Russians, how will that affect trump? Regardless of what happens outside of evidence of direct involvement from trump, he isn't going to get impeached. His approval rating might go down though.

Trump just gonna say he didn't know about it, actually he would probably blame obama for spying on him if asked about it.


Right now, moving forwards to impeach Trump is dicey for the gop, especially for those in the house as many risk getting primaried. However, if Trump's approval rating goes down enough, it will start impacting 2018 and Republicans will start considering throwing Trump under the bus.

Edit: Watch the Senate right now, Republicans are at much higher risk there and are taking the investigation much more seriously.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 22:18:06
April 01 2017 22:17 GMT
#144822
Al Gore with a new global warming video. Hopefully the dumbass Trump listens.

+ Show Spoiler +


ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 01 2017 22:30 GMT
#144823
Would Al Gore run again if given the chance? And would any of you vote for him?
Life?
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 01 2017 22:31 GMT
#144824
On April 02 2017 07:17 Shield wrote:
Al Gore with a new global warming video. Hopefully the dumbass Trump listens.

+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huX1bmfdkyA


There is a zero percent chance that any Republican will sign on to global man-made climate change until the sea levels rise to their front door.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
April 01 2017 22:35 GMT
#144825
On April 02 2017 07:30 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Would Al Gore run again if given the chance? And would any of you vote for him?


not for president. at least not in a primary. If he wants to go into senate of governor sure.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 01 2017 23:04 GMT
#144826
On April 02 2017 07:17 Shield wrote:
Al Gore with a new global warming video. Hopefully the dumbass Trump listens.

+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huX1bmfdkyA

They can really go head-to-head in the dumbass awards. It would be a close fight.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 23:10:37
April 01 2017 23:09 GMT
#144827
On April 02 2017 08:04 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 07:17 Shield wrote:
Al Gore with a new global warming video. Hopefully the dumbass Trump listens.

+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huX1bmfdkyA

They can really go head-to-head in the dumbass awards. It would be a close fight.

does that reference something in the video? cuz otherwise the comment makes no apparent sense, given the glaring differences between them.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 01 2017 23:35 GMT
#144828
On April 02 2017 08:04 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 07:17 Shield wrote:
Al Gore with a new global warming video. Hopefully the dumbass Trump listens.

+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huX1bmfdkyA

They can really go head-to-head in the dumbass awards. It would be a close fight.


You don't believe in global warming? It must suck to have no appreciation for science.
Philoctetes
Profile Joined March 2017
Netherlands77 Posts
April 01 2017 23:36 GMT
#144829
On April 02 2017 04:47 biology]major wrote:
So let's say Flynn actively conspired with the Russians, how will that affect trump? Regardless of what happens outside of evidence of direct involvement from trump, he isn't going to get impeached. His approval rating might go down though.

Trump just gonna say he didn't know about it, actually he would probably blame obama for spying on him if asked about it.


So let's say Trump actively conspired with the Russians, will he get impeached? Pence seems like an easily controllable president. Once it becomes clear Trump will never be reelected and will never give the GOP what they think they want, why not make Pence president?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11635 Posts
April 01 2017 23:37 GMT
#144830
On April 02 2017 07:31 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 07:17 Shield wrote:
Al Gore with a new global warming video. Hopefully the dumbass Trump listens.

+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huX1bmfdkyA


There is a zero percent chance that any Republican will sign on to global man-made climate change until the sea levels rise to their front door.


Yeah, if the people who pay you make that pay dependent on you believing something, people are very good at believing that thing.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden888 Posts
April 01 2017 23:39 GMT
#144831
al gore exaggarates global warming to an extreme level and all the claims in his videos are just complete bogus. Trump is right when it comes to global warming. Let science fix the "problem" that no one knows if its a problem or not just that we dont know how global warming affects earth.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 01 2017 23:51 GMT
#144832
On April 02 2017 08:39 sertas wrote:
al gore exaggarates global warming to an extreme level and all the claims in his videos are just complete bogus. Trump is right when it comes to global warming. Let science fix the "problem" that no one knows if its a problem or not just that we dont know how global warming affects earth.


So you're saying you don't believe in data or facts?
Life?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
April 01 2017 23:56 GMT
#144833
Don't worry everyone, the invisible hand will fix global warming for us. Its handy that way.
Never Knows Best.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 02 2017 00:09 GMT
#144834
On April 02 2017 08:56 Slaughter wrote:
Don't worry everyone, the invisible hand will fix global warming for us. Its handy that way.


Who needs science? Let's believe in unicorns.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45063 Posts
April 02 2017 00:10 GMT
#144835
On April 02 2017 08:39 sertas wrote:
al gore exaggarates global warming to an extreme level and all the claims in his videos are just complete bogus. Trump is right when it comes to global warming. Let science fix the "problem" that no one knows if its a problem or not just that we dont know how global warming affects earth.


Haha April Fool's, right? Right? Please say you're joking...

On that same note:

For April Fools' Day, the Russian Foreign Ministry put out an "official joke" where an automated recording tells callers to press 1 for "a call from a Russian diplomat to your political opponent." You can press 2 "to use the services of Russian hackers," or 3 "to request election interference."


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russia-april-fools-day-joke-20170401-story.html
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-02 00:19:04
April 02 2017 00:15 GMT
#144836
On April 02 2017 08:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 08:39 sertas wrote:
al gore exaggarates global warming to an extreme level and all the claims in his videos are just complete bogus. Trump is right when it comes to global warming. Let science fix the "problem" that no one knows if its a problem or not just that we dont know how global warming affects earth.


So you're saying you don't believe in data or facts?


Did you see Al Gore's previous movie? Millions were supposed to be dead by raising sea level last year. How many did die? Many people ACTUALLY die from poverty every year, and "green" measures are usually a break to economic growth, specially on poor nations that rely on fossil fuels.

There is a world of difference between saying global warming is an issue to adress and herp derp capitalism is bad, stop using oil, screw consequences. Eviromental "protection" trough government regulations has some VERY real consequenses that should not be ignored.

Exaggerating global warming to non-sense levels is the best way to take away the credibility it should have.

Edit:

As my friend xDaut would point out, liberals pushing the enviromental agenda should focus on actual arguments instead of insulting people that do not share their opinion that we are all going to die in X years; repiting "do you not believe in facts?" "99% of scientist agree" ad nauseum is not an argument. Exactly the same way they should have argued Trump's points instead of calling him a racist bigot non-stop.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
April 02 2017 00:19 GMT
#144837
What actual arguments do you suggest pro-climate science people use to debate climate deniers when they refuse to engage with the vast majority of climate science?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45063 Posts
April 02 2017 00:28 GMT
#144838
On April 02 2017 09:15 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 08:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On April 02 2017 08:39 sertas wrote:
al gore exaggarates global warming to an extreme level and all the claims in his videos are just complete bogus. Trump is right when it comes to global warming. Let science fix the "problem" that no one knows if its a problem or not just that we dont know how global warming affects earth.


So you're saying you don't believe in data or facts?


Did you see Al Gore's previous movie? Millions were supposed to be dead by raising sea level last year. How many did die? Many people ACTUALLY die from poverty every year, and "green" measures are usually a break to economic growth, specially on poor nations that rely on fossil fuels.

There is a world of difference between saying global warming is an issue to adress and herp derp capitalism is bad, stop using oil, screw consequences. Eviromental "protection" trough government regulations has some VERY real consequenses that should not be ignored.

Exaggerating global warming to non-sense levels is the best way to take away the credibility it should have.

Edit:

As my friend xDaut would point out, liberals pushing the enviromental agenda should focus on actual arguments instead of insulting people that do not share their opinion that we are all going to die in X years; repiting "do you not believe in facts?" "99% of scientist agree" ad nauseum is not an argument. Exactly the same way they should have argued Trump's points instead of calling him a racist bigot non-stop.


First of all, there's plenty of evidence that human-accelerated global warming has attributed to an increase in countless problems for humans (natural disasters, rising water levels, extreme heat, patterns of infection) that literally add up to millions of human deaths each year, to say nothing of the plants and animals that are disappearing: http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs266/en/

Second, it's still inappropriate to compare Gore to Trump in terms of ignorance, especially when it comes to global warming. There is a huge difference between potentially exaggerating some statistics and flat-out denying the very existence of the climate change crisis that we're having. And for the deniers that roll their eyes at words like "crisis" and thinks the scientific community is just overreacting, don't be surprised when those deniers are called idiots.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-02 00:47:28
April 02 2017 00:29 GMT
#144839
On April 02 2017 08:39 sertas wrote:Trump is right when it comes to global warming. Let science fix the "problem" that no one knows if its a problem or not just that we dont know how global warming affects earth.


There is literally zero justification for the Trump/Republican position on global warming.

I'll give you the science. I'll give you Al Gore. I'll concede any point you want to make, really (not sincerely, but for the sake of argument. Because educating people on science that don't want to be educated on science is kind of exhausting, isn't it?).

It's still wrong to take the Republican position. Even if you think burning the world's fossil-fuels (made from fossils, a million-to-billion year process) will not irrevocably harm the environment and the future of mankind, you're still just essentially arguing a completely selfish and ignorant position.

Because NO ONE can deny that fossil-fuels are a limited resource. You're saying, "don't worry about it, just burn it". So, just let future generations worry about what to do when it runs out? Uhhh... how about "no", Mr. Oil Executive?


Even if you take the environmental science out of the equation (because that's responsible...), you're still advocating for the right of your generation to simply abandon all responsibility for future generations. Regardless of the environment, we should be doing EVERYTHING we can to look for and use alternative energy sources. Scientific skepticism is fine, even if its unwarranted, but this is not just science. This is about pure, simple, fucking greed, versus constraint and responsibility. What the hell does "conservative" mean?


edit: with that said, the notion that scientists are lying to us, in some vast global conspiracy, and in doing so, are agitating the world's most powerful industry, is just sooooooooo fucking absurd. "Let's make grant money by telling the world's richest people to abandon their most profitable resource." Right...
Big water
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45063 Posts
April 02 2017 00:35 GMT
#144840
More fun info on the alternative fact/ April Fool's joke that climate change is a hoax that doesn't need to be taken seriously:

Twenty governments commissioned an independent report in 2012 from the group DARA International to study the human and economic costs of climate change. It linked 400,000 deaths worldwide to climate change each year, projecting deaths to increase to over 600,000 per year by 2030. When scientists attribute deaths to climate change, they don't just mean succumbing to a heat wave or, as Huckabee put it, to sunburn. Heat waves kill many, to be sure, but global warming also devastates food security, nutrition, and water safety. Since mosquitoes and other pests thrive in hot, humid weather, scientists expect diseases like malaria and dengue fever to rise. Floods threaten to contaminate drinking water with bacteria and pollution.

When the report looked at the added health consequences from burning fossil fuels—aside from climate change—the number of deaths jumps from 400,000 to almost 5 million per year.
https://newrepublic.com/article/121032/map-climate-change-kills-more-people-worldwide-terrorism

A report commissioned by the governments of more than 20 countries found that more than 100 million people will die as a result of climate change by 2030 if the world stays on its current path.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/09/27/report-100-million-could-die-from-climate-change-by-2030
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