EPTpro: hardworking, experienced, etc.
con: relies on focus groups and strategists too much
trump
pro: drove attention to a segment of america that's been left behind
con: is trump
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
pro: hardworking, experienced, etc. con: relies on focus groups and strategists too much trump pro: drove attention to a segment of america that's been left behind con: is trump | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:18 xDaunt wrote: Quick, somewhat OT, question for y'all: what's the likelihood that the residential real estate market shits itself on a national level over the next six-twelve months, and does the victory of Trump or Hillary alter that likelihood? That might depend. I predict if either trump wins, or if Hillary wins and trumpkins decide to revolt it will go down. If Hillary wins and trumpkins accept the defeat, I doubt it will change much. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:19 oneofthem wrote: yes, but it is barry's job to pass it. her lack of...conviction? to argue for her actual politics is troubling tho It's a key leg of her Asia pivot, to improve our influence in SE Asia against China. It's Obama's to pass, but she deserves credit for it. The TPP is a geopolitical tool, as well as an economic driver, and it's a smart one, even though she doesn't want to be associated with it anymore. More than that, even if you can make a fair argument against polarization, people are now talking about global trade as if it's a zero sum game. Trump talks about "winning" trade deals. That's ridiculous, and antithetical to (what used to be) core Republican values. I seriously miss Ron Paul supporters. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:25 ticklishmusic wrote: i can see some problems with the "luxury" apartment/ condo segment b/c its stupid overbuilt by developers trying to charge a ouple hundred bucks for crown molding and granite countertops, but i feel like the rest are probably pretty steady. maybe a trump presidency makes people put off the single family homes a bit, which would bump up the apartment market a little. either way wouldnt put $$$ in REIT's right now. Yeah, I don't want to invest in real estate right now. Rents are starting to fall quickly out here in Colorado. What I am thinking about is whether I want to trade up house-wise. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:22 Jibba wrote: It's a key leg of her Asia pivot, to improve our influence in SE Asia against China. It's Obama's to pass, but she deserves credit for it. The TPP is a geopolitical tool, as well as an economic driver, and it's a smart one, even though she doesn't want to be associated with it anymore. More than that, even if you can make a fair argument against polarization, people are now talking about global trade as if it's a zero sum game. Trump talks about "winning" trade deals. That's ridiculous, and antithetical to (what used to be) core Republican values. I seriously miss Ron Paul supporters. nothing would make me miss paultards User was warned for this post | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:18 xDaunt wrote: Quick, somewhat OT, question for y'all: what's the likelihood that the residential real estate market shits itself on a national level over the next six-twelve months, and does the victory of Trump or Hillary alter that likelihood? i doubt residential real estate will be much affected on the whole by the election. I don't think either has policies relating to housing that would be done in that time frame. there has been concern for some time that we might be due for another recession, and economic indicators are weird. who knows when the next one'll happen though; iirc there's some indicators that precede the recession, but I forget what they are. markets in general hate uncertainty, and trump victory is high uncertainty. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:18 xDaunt wrote: Quick, somewhat OT, question for y'all: what's the likelihood that the residential real estate market shits itself on a national level over the next six-twelve months, and does the victory of Trump or Hillary alter that likelihood? I'm not sure if it'll shit itself, but FWIW we're heading towards another recession soon. It should be much less severe than the last one, however. | ||
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Falling
Canada11279 Posts
Good thing for you that he is not in the race, or I'd ban you for the above. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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oneofthem
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KwarK
United States42008 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:18 xDaunt wrote: Quick, somewhat OT, question for y'all: what's the likelihood that the residential real estate market shits itself on a national level over the next six-twelve months, and does the victory of Trump or Hillary alter that likelihood? Anyone who tells you the answer to this with any real conviction is either full of shit or Nettles. If Nettles say it'll definitely happen then I'd bet against it. #buygold Part of the problem with this is that markets are inherently irrational. Even if you knew the "true" value of every stock, bond and option that'd still not be enough to predict them because you also need to know how everyone else values them, and that's pure chaos. Nettles could be completely right about all the fundamentals that he keeps talking about but if belief in the market keeps growing then a reduction in the underlying value isn't going to necessarily lead to an immediate crash. | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On November 02 2016 13:01 Dismay wrote: Is the TPP still shit for the 'net? Shitter than shit. But it just hasn't come up in recent times. | ||
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Falling
Canada11279 Posts
On November 02 2016 12:52 oneofthem wrote: lol this is some rich stuff, pc language! Screw PC language. This has to do with keeping TL away from bottom dregs of news sites' political comment sections. I feel like this election I have largely failed, but we can at least steer clear of stupid and petty insults. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
speaking apolitically for a moment, i dont think a trump victory is really fully priced in. if he gets to 40%ish or so - then that'll be a good buying opportunity. though if you're looking for a house, i doubt you could get things closed that quick on something you like w/o regrets. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22736 Posts
On November 02 2016 13:05 ticklishmusic wrote: my sense is that real estate is so highly localized that stuff on the national level really isnt too helpful except for making buy/sell decisions for REITs and other real estate-related securities. maybe just get a free session with a realtor if you're serious-ish, or look at one of those intro seminars with food and stuff. i forget what the name of the co was, something with the color red. speaking apolitically for a moment, i dont think a trump victory is really fully priced in. if he gets to 40%ish or so - then that'll be a good buying opportunity. though if you're looking for a house, i doubt you could get things closed that quick on something you like w/o regrets. The bold is right. I wouldn't bother talking to a REALTOR unless you're looking into being convinced into selling/buying though. People thinking they are getting advice based on their own self-interest from a REALTOR are getting duped the vast majority of the time. | ||
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