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On October 14 2016 22:22 LegalLord wrote:

Don't think North Korea has good enough missile technology for that to be worth the backlash from countries who aren't too fond of that kind of military buildup.

On October 14 2016 22:40 Kickboxer wrote:
The relationship between genders when it comes to sex and courtship (seduction) is an extremely complicated matter, and there is no simple way to address it. I do agree women remain far too vulnerable to actual assault and sexual bullying, and that this is a real issue we need to work on, but the term "rape culture" is simply not the best one, and the people fighting for the cause need to choose another banner in addition to facing some serious issues they have willfully chosen to ignore.

Women simply do prefer assertive powerful men. They do prefer "aggressive" men. It might be deeply illogical and unfortunate, but it is a pragmatic fact of reality. It is the way Homo Sapiens mates, and anyone honest with themselves who's not angered by their own sexual frustration will begrudgingly recognize this.

A vast majority of females (that have not experienced sexual trauma of course) strongly prefer a hint of "sexual aggression", they do respond to "dominance", they do respond to a certain degree of autonomous boldness, and sometimes you simply do have to kiss the girl (or as "dogs" would figuratively put it "grab her by the pussy"), or you will lose her to a more confident man - even though she is not holding up a consent poster. Until the split second the woman actively resists (which is the clear line of real sexual assault as far as I am concerned) the distinction between "alpha" behavior that often brings great real-life success with women, and cancerous behavior that terrorizes them is nearly impossible to draw.

And that, in a nutshell, is why some people are willing to forgive Trump for his "locker room" talk (though he is still a pig because he's clearly crossed this line habitually).

Cat-calling is also a nuanced concept because it is in many ways an instinctive response to the sexual power an attractive woman willingly exerts upon the male subconsciousness. No, this does not mean they "deserve" to be groped let alone assaulted (!), but it is a particular form of violence against men that I feel is never properly addressed.

What I just said perhaps makes some people facepalm and cringe, but your problem then lies with the factual reality of sexual relations between men and women and not with my speculation.

Women rage about the necessity of wearing make-up 24/7 and about being objectified all the time, but most of them nevertheless spend half their money and time specifically on the task of appearing sexually attractive to men in a radius as wide as possible, because that gives them vast amounts of "soft" power over men.

Our culture has been glorifying female sexual liberation for 30 years non-stop, in addition to enforcing highly dubious ideas of "gender fluidity" marshaled by the exact same people using the term rape culture, to a point where most female celebrities (women adored and mimicked by young girls all across the world) are famous for some kind of porn, and many of them, frankly, act like sluts - or more precisely, they act like men. Why don't we ever talk about that? Do you think this contributes to the problem of rape culture or not?

Post-Samantha, in the age of Miley Cyrus and the Kardashians, is it safe to say we have a "whore culture" problem in addition to a "rape culture" problem? Is this a legitimate topic to discuss or am I deplorable? I don't know but if someone is triggered by the obscene (and deliberately obtuse) way I framed this, they should understand that championing beta behavior as a one-stop solution to the issues of violence between genders triggers many people, too, and directly helps politicians like Trump rally the silent majority.

On October 14 2016 22:35 LegalLord wrote:

Truth is that current technology for missile defense can do fuck all against any real nuclear threat. An ICBM is notoriously hard to shoot down even under extremely simplified scenarios. It's been compared to hitting a bullet with a bullet, although in the case of Russia, the US, and possibly China, it's like shooting down a bullet that can create fake bullets to throw you off, and that can change trajectories to mess up your targeting, with a bullet. And of course there are thousands of bullets and if all else fails they could just nuke your defense system pretty easily. The entire missile defense issue is more about being provocative than any actual missile defense.

On October 14 2016 22:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:

The US - Russia balance of power holds by the Mutual Annihilation doctrine. If you build an anti missile system around them, suddenly the balance changes drastically: the US can annihilate Russia, but Russia can't annihilate the US.

That's a historical doctrine that has existed from the cold war.

I don't think the US - Chinese relations are based on any such doctrine. And North Korea, well...

But again and again, it's probably a terrible idea and it's not in Clinton platform. What's the deal here exactly?

On October 14 2016 22:32 Antyee wrote:


Trump has taken the biggest nosedive of his polling because of it. It doesn't seem to be too much of an issue since people have been denouncing him for it and noone apart from the biggest nutjobs tried to make up excuses for him.

On October 14 2016 22:47 TheTenthDoc wrote:


I think at least 10% of the country believes it's perfectly fine for him to talk as he did as long as it's "locker room talk" (which has nothing to do with locker rooms and everything to do with men talking to men). What percent are we okay with believing that? If one in 10 people believe it's acceptable to decide to "move on" married women when they've shown zero signs of consent...as long as you only talk about it later with only guys and take them furniture shopping first...I don't think that's an okay place to be.

On October 14 2016 22:40 Kickboxer wrote:
The relationship between genders when it comes to sex and courtship (seduction) is an extremely complicated matter, and there is no simple way to address it. I do agree women remain far too vulnerable to actual assault and sexual bullying, and that this is a real issue we need to work on, but the term "rape culture" is simply not the best one, and the people fighting for the cause need to choose another banner in addition to facing some serious issues they have willfully chosen to ignore.

Women simply do prefer assertive powerful men. They do prefer "aggressive" men. It might be deeply illogical and unfortunate, but it is a pragmatic fact of reality. It is the way Homo Sapiens mates, and anyone honest with themselves who's not angered by their own sexual frustration will begrudgingly recognize this.

A vast majority of females (that have not experienced sexual trauma of course) strongly prefer a hint of "sexual aggression", they do respond to "dominance", they do respond to a certain degree of autonomous boldness, and sometimes you simply do have to kiss the girl (or as "dogs" would figuratively put it "grab her by the pussy"), or you will lose her to a more confident man - even though she is not holding up a consent poster. Until the split second the woman actively resists (which is the clear line of real sexual assault as far as I am concerned) the distinction between "alpha" behavior that often brings great real-life success with women, and cancerous behavior that terrorizes them is nearly impossible to draw.

And that, in a nutshell, is why some people are willing to forgive Trump for his "locker room" talk (though he is still a pig because he's clearly crossed this line habitually).

Cat-calling is also a nuanced concept because it is in many ways an instinctive response to the sexual power an attractive woman willingly exerts upon the male subconsciousness. No, this does not mean they "deserve" to be groped let alone assaulted (!), but it is a particular form of violence against men that I feel is never properly addressed.

What I just said perhaps makes some people facepalm and cringe, but your problem then lies with the factual reality of sexual relations between men and women and not with my speculation.

Women rage about the necessity of wearing make-up 24/7 and about being objectified all the time, but most of them nevertheless spend half their money and time specifically on the task of appearing sexually attractive to men in a radius as wide as possible, because that gives them vast amounts of "soft" power over men.

Our culture has been glorifying female sexual liberation for 30 years non-stop, in addition to enforcing highly dubious ideas of "gender fluidity" marshaled by the exact same people using the term rape culture, to a point where most female celebrities (women adored and mimicked by young girls all across the world) are famous for some kind of porn, and many of them, frankly, act like sluts - or more precisely, they act like men. Why don't we ever talk about that? Do you think this contributes to the problem of rape culture or not?

Post-Samantha, in the age of Miley Cyrus and the Kardashians, is it safe to say we have a "whore culture" problem in addition to a "rape culture" problem? Is this a legitimate topic to discuss or am I deplorable? I don't know but if someone is triggered by the obscene (and deliberately obtuse) way I framed this, they should understand that championing beta behavior as a one-stop solution to the issues of violence between genders triggers many people, too, and directly helps politicians like Trump rally the silent majority.

On October 14 2016 22:51 Dan HH wrote:

While I don't agree with Biff on the topic, I do have to note the irony in you pointing this out in a post filled with debunked pop sci pack theory 'red pill' garbage

On October 14 2016 22:40 Kickboxer wrote:
The relationship between genders when it comes to sex and courtship (seduction) is an extremely complicated matter, and there is no simple way to address it. I do agree women remain far too vulnerable to actual assault and sexual bullying, and that this is a real issue we need to work on, but the term "rape culture" is simply not the best one, and the people fighting for the cause need to choose another banner in addition to facing some serious issues they have willfully chosen to ignore.

Women simply do prefer assertive powerful men. They do prefer "aggressive" men. It might be deeply illogical and unfortunate, but it is a pragmatic fact of reality. It is the way Homo Sapiens mates, and anyone honest with themselves who's not angered by their own sexual frustration will begrudgingly recognize this.

A vast majority of females (that have not experienced sexual trauma of course) strongly prefer a hint of "sexual aggression", they do respond to "dominance", they do respond to a certain degree of autonomous boldness, and sometimes you simply do have to kiss the girl (or as "dogs" would figuratively put it "grab her by the pussy"), or you will lose her to a more confident man - even though she is not holding up a consent poster. Until the split second the woman actively resists (which is the clear line of real sexual assault as far as I am concerned) the distinction between "alpha" behavior that often brings great real-life success with women, and cancerous behavior that terrorizes them is nearly impossible to draw.

And that, in a nutshell, is why some people are willing to forgive Trump for his "locker room" talk (though he is still a pig because he's clearly crossed this line habitually).

Cat-calling is also a nuanced concept because it is in many ways an instinctive response to the sexual power an attractive woman willingly exerts upon the male subconsciousness. No, this does not mean they "deserve" to be groped let alone assaulted (!), but it is a particular form of violence against men that I feel is never properly addressed.

What I just said perhaps makes some people facepalm and cringe, but your problem then lies with the factual reality of sexual relations between men and women and not with my speculation.

Women rage about the necessity of wearing make-up 24/7 and about being objectified all the time, but most of them nevertheless spend half their money and time specifically on the task of appearing sexually attractive to men in a radius as wide as possible, because that gives them vast amounts of "soft" power over men.

Our culture has been glorifying female sexual liberation for 30 years non-stop, in addition to enforcing highly dubious ideas of "gender fluidity" marshaled by the exact same people using the term rape culture, to a point where most female celebrities (women adored and mimicked by young girls all across the world) are famous for some kind of porn, and many of them, frankly, act like sluts - or more precisely, they act like men. Why don't we ever talk about that? Do you think this contributes to the problem of rape culture or not?

Post-Samantha, in the age of Miley Cyrus and the Kardashians, is it safe to say we have a "whore culture" problem in addition to a "rape culture" problem? Is this a legitimate topic to discuss or am I deplorable? I don't know but if someone is triggered by the obscene (and deliberately obtuse) way I framed this, they should understand that championing beta behavior as a one-stop solution to the issues of violence between genders triggers many people, too, and directly helps politicians like Trump rally the silent majority.

On October 14 2016 22:56 Thieving Magpie wrote:


1.) People are attracted to the options around them. If they live in a culture that values rape, they will be attracted to rapey things. Women are not "illogically" attracted to it, its a side effect that rape permeates so much of the culture that often the choice women have is to either fetish it or become celibate.

2.) Women wear makeup because the west is such a misogynistic culture, it is impossible for women to feel value outside of their own bodies. Western culture emphasizes the importance of the female body as a fuck toy to rape that in order for many women engaged in that culture, beautification to maximize the value they are told to have becomes primary.

3.) There is no such thing as a whore problem. Women enjoying sex is a not a whore problem. A whore problem is when you disallow and make illegal for women to earn an income and women are forced to become whores to make ends meet. A woman enjoying sex is, in and of itself, normal. Now if women walked around, grabbing little boys dicks, going to school and and took videos of little boys peeing, broke into peoples houses and fucked men at gun point, then you can talk about women acting too much like men. But just because they like having sex too--that's a fairly stupid thing to bring up.

4.) The reason women are doing the things you observe them doing is because the west glorifies rape. Women, also being part of western culture, can't help but be forced to engage in it as well. That's what the fucking word culture means--its the thing a group of people do. The reason its illogical and seems to serve people's interest other than the woman's is because the west is a misogynistic culture that doesn't give a fuck about the woman's thoughts and ideas. And then teaches the woman to think the same.

On October 14 2016 22:52 RealityIsKing wrote:


Citation needed.

On October 14 2016 22:51 Dan HH wrote:

While I don't agree with Biff on the topic, I do have to note the irony in you pointing this out in a post filled with debunked pop sci pack theory 'red pill' garbage

On October 14 2016 22:40 Kickboxer wrote:
The relationship between genders when it comes to sex and courtship (seduction) is an extremely complicated matter, and there is no simple way to address it. I do agree women remain far too vulnerable to actual assault and sexual bullying, and that this is a real issue we need to work on, but the term "rape culture" is simply not the best one, and the people fighting for the cause need to choose another banner in addition to facing some serious issues they have willfully chosen to ignore.

Women simply do prefer assertive powerful men. They do prefer "aggressive" men. It might be deeply illogical and unfortunate, but it is a pragmatic fact of reality. It is the way Homo Sapiens mates, and anyone honest with themselves who's not angered by their own sexual frustration will begrudgingly recognize this.

A vast majority of females (that have not experienced sexual trauma of course) strongly prefer a hint of "sexual aggression", they do respond to "dominance", they do respond to a certain degree of autonomous boldness, and sometimes you simply do have to kiss the girl (or as "dogs" would figuratively put it "grab her by the pussy"), or you will lose her to a more confident man - even though she is not holding up a consent poster. Until the split second the woman actively resists (which is the clear line of real sexual assault as far as I am concerned) the distinction between "alpha" behavior that often brings great real-life success with women, and cancerous behavior that terrorizes them is nearly impossible to draw.

And that, in a nutshell, is why some people are willing to forgive Trump for his "locker room" talk (though he is still a pig because he's clearly crossed this line habitually).

Cat-calling is also a nuanced concept because it is in many ways an instinctive response to the sexual power an attractive woman willingly exerts upon the male subconsciousness. No, this does not mean they "deserve" to be groped let alone assaulted (!), but it is a particular form of violence against men that I feel is never properly addressed.

What I just said perhaps makes some people facepalm and cringe, but your problem then lies with the factual reality of sexual relations between men and women and not with my speculation.

Women rage about the necessity of wearing make-up 24/7 and about being objectified all the time, but most of them nevertheless spend half their money and time specifically on the task of appearing sexually attractive to men in a radius as wide as possible, because that gives them vast amounts of "soft" power over men.

Our culture has been glorifying female sexual liberation for 30 years non-stop, in addition to enforcing highly dubious ideas of "gender fluidity" marshaled by the exact same people using the term rape culture, to a point where most female celebrities (women adored and mimicked by young girls all across the world) are famous for some kind of porn, and many of them, frankly, act like sluts - or more precisely, they act like men. Why don't we ever talk about that? Do you think this contributes to the problem of rape culture or not?

Post-Samantha, in the age of Miley Cyrus and the Kardashians, is it safe to say we have a "whore culture" problem in addition to a "rape culture" problem? Is this a legitimate topic to discuss or am I deplorable? I don't know but if someone is triggered by the obscene (and deliberately obtuse) way I framed this, they should understand that championing beta behavior as a one-stop solution to the issues of violence between genders triggers many people, too, and directly helps politicians like Trump rally the silent majority.

On October 14 2016 23:01 NukeD wrote:

Truly insightful look into a SJW's mind. Thank you.

On October 14 2016 22:35 GreenHorizons wrote:


I think you misread my comment, but remind us how Russia feels about the "defense system" we're installing over there in your neck of the woods?

EDIT: But at this point Trump is so terrible and third party so unrealistic (for Hillary supporters) that wikileaks could release an email from Hillary to Podesta maniacally laughing about a list of evil things she would do as president, and her supporters still would vote for her while minimizing/making excuses.

On October 14 2016 22:56 Thieving Magpie wrote:


1.) People are attracted to the options around them. If they live in a culture that values rape, they will be attracted to rapey things. Women are not "illogically" attracted to it, its a side effect that rape permeates so much of the culture that often the choice women have is to either fetish it or become celibate.

2.) Women wear makeup because the west is such a misogynistic culture, it is impossible for women to feel value outside of their own bodies. Western culture emphasizes the importance of the female body as a fuck toy to rape that in order for many women engaged in that culture, beautification to maximize the value they are told to have becomes primary.

3.) There is no such thing as a whore problem. Women enjoying sex is a not a whore problem. A whore problem is when you disallow and make illegal for women to earn an income and women are forced to become whores to make ends meet. A woman enjoying sex is, in and of itself, normal. Now if women walked around, grabbing little boys dicks, going to school and and took videos of little boys peeing, broke into peoples houses and fucked men at gun point, then you can talk about women acting too much like men. But just because they like having sex too--that's a fairly stupid thing to bring up.

4.) The reason women are doing the things you observe them doing is because the west glorifies rape. Women, also being part of western culture, can't help but be forced to engage in it as well. That's what the fucking word culture means--its the thing a group of people do. The reason its illogical and seems to serve people's interest other than the woman's is because the west is a misogynistic culture that doesn't give a fuck about the woman's thoughts and ideas. And then teaches the woman to think the same.

On October 14 2016 22:56 Thieving Magpie wrote:


1.) People are attracted to the options around them. If they live in a culture that values rape, they will be attracted to rapey things. Women are not "illogically" attracted to it, its a side effect that rape permeates so much of the culture that often the choice women have is to either fetish it or become celibate.

2.) Women wear makeup because the west is such a misogynistic culture, it is impossible for women to feel value outside of their own bodies. Western culture emphasizes the importance of the female body as a fuck toy to rape that in order for many women engaged in that culture, beautification to maximize the value they are told to have becomes primary.

3.) There is no such thing as a whore problem. Women enjoying sex is a not a whore problem. A whore problem is when you disallow and make illegal for women to earn an income and women are forced to become whores to make ends meet. A woman enjoying sex is, in and of itself, normal. Now if women walked around, grabbing little boys dicks, going to school and and took videos of little boys peeing, broke into peoples houses and fucked men at gun point, then you can talk about women acting too much like men. But just because they like having sex too--that's a fairly stupid thing to bring up.

4.) The reason women are doing the things you observe them doing is because the west glorifies rape. Women, also being part of western culture, can't help but be forced to engage in it as well. That's what the fucking word culture means--its the thing a group of people do. The reason its illogical and seems to serve people's interest other than the woman's is because the west is a misogynistic culture that doesn't give a fuck about the woman's thoughts and ideas. And then teaches the woman to think the same.

On October 14 2016 23:05 a_flayer wrote:


Regarding your point 4: Okay, so when I fantasize about having a guy tie me up and forcefully penetrating my pussy then I am just being manipulated in thinking that I would enjoy being dominated in such a fashion? It couldn't possibly have anything to do with the duality of man? Or the belief in a higher authority (be it a King, God aka religion or potentially a husband/spouse) and the willingness to be slave to any of those parties? It is all about rape culture and glorification that is forced into my brain at a young age?

I don't think I would be willing to accept that I have so little consciousness regarding myself that this is not inherent to me and possibly most human beings to a lesser or greater extent.