• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:01
CEST 14:01
KST 21:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)31ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo23Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted SC2 Planner - The StarCraft II Build Planner [TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed
Brood War
General
Fact based Zerg Upgrade Tier List BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ STARCRAFT MOVIE - Last Night at the Command center BW General Discussion Battle cruiser feet vs Carrier fleet
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How To Predict Tilt in Espor…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8989 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4673

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4671 4672 4673 4674 4675 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 08 2016 11:10 GMT
#93441
It’s hard to know exactly when the Republican Party assumed the mantle of the “stupid party.”

Stupidity is not an accusation that could be hurled against such prominent early Republicans as Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Elihu Root and Charles Evans Hughes. But by the 1950s, it had become an established shibboleth that the “eggheads” were for Adlai Stevenson and the “boobs” for Dwight D. Eisenhower — a view endorsed by Richard Hofstadter’s 1963 book “Anti-Intellectualism in American Life,” which contrasted Stevenson, “a politician of uncommon mind and style, whose appeal to intellectuals overshadowed anything in recent history,” with Eisenhower — “conventional in mind, relatively inarticulate.” The John F. Kennedy presidency, with its glittering court of Camelot, cemented the impression that it was the Democrats who represented the thinking men and women of America.

Rather than run away from the anti-intellectual label, Republicans embraced it for their own political purposes. In his “time for choosing” speech, Ronald Reagan said that the issue in the 1964 election was “whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant Capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.” Richard M. Nixon appealed to the “silent majority” and the “hard hats,” while his vice president, Spiro T. Agnew, issued slashing attacks on an “effete core of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals.”

William F. Buckley Jr. famously said, “I should sooner live in a society governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston telephone directory than in a society governed by the 2,000 faculty members of Harvard University.” More recently, George W. Bush joked at a Yale commencement: “To those of you who received honors, awards and distinctions, I say, well done. And to the C students I say, you, too, can be president of the United States.”

Many Democrats took all this at face value and congratulated themselves for being smarter than the benighted Republicans. Here’s the thing, though: The Republican embrace of anti-intellectualism was, to a large extent, a put-on. At least until now.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7179 Posts
August 08 2016 11:22 GMT
#93442
On August 08 2016 10:26 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 10:08 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
No that isn't a seizure. She's clearly making a joke in that one

I won't stand for a presidential candidate making fun of the disabled.



ayy
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2016 12:53 GMT
#93443
On August 08 2016 14:25 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 13:07 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2016 10:30 xDaunt wrote:
On August 08 2016 10:23 biology]major wrote:
On August 08 2016 10:12 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2016 09:45 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What ransom? It was Iranian money from the 70's and some of it was partially released after the Nuclear Agreement.

Its ransom because Republicans want it to be. Money that some day in the future would be released to Iran, but because Obama did it, its ransom. The key factor is that Obama did it, so it must be a sign of weakness. Being strong is maintaining the status quo and claiming you accomplished something for the GOP.


It is ransom because of the timing. They received a payment, and then right after confirmation let the prisoners free.

The only people not calling it a ransom are democrats. The Iranians sure think it was a ransom. As does at least one of the hostages.

You do know we do this shit all the time, right? Under both parties. We release frozen assets or withhold funding to other parties. Sell weapons and so on. Prisoners taken by other nations don't get released because we are so awesome and they fear our might. We trade for them.

These deals, they're the worst deals, they, China you see, they're laughing at us and they say that Obama is a bad negotiator, that's why Japan, and like the other Mexican countries, they're taking advantage of us. It's a bad deal. They think we're stupid. The Middle Easts, they hear about these deals and they come to me and they say "Donald, I don't believe it" and I say that they should believe it because I don't agree with them. They don't pay anything because they don't think we can walk away. And Obama won't walk away from the Muslims. I'm not saying why he won't but a lot of people tell me he's a Muslim. I don't know, all I know is that he gave a lot of money to his Muslim friends in Iran. And he says that's not exactly how it happened, well, I don't know how it happened, I don't know what the deal is, I haven't read it, all I know is that it's a bad deal. A lot of folks have read it, smart folks, folks that can read, and they don't like it.

This is exactly what I needed on a Monday. Well played.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 08 2016 12:58 GMT
#93444
NEW YORK — Taken aback by the size of Donald Trump’s July fundraising haul, Hillary Clinton’s campaign is quickly working to beef up its efforts to raise campaign cash before the fall — sending the candidate, running mate Tim Kaine, and former President Bill Clinton on an all-out financial sprint through August while explicitly warning top fundraisers this week that they need to pick up the pace.

In an internal memo, first obtained by POLITICO, that will be circulated to high-level donors on Monday morning, campaign manager Robby Mook specifically writes that the Republican nominee’s July haul overshot the campaign’s expectations, necessitating a new wave of action.

“Donald Trump also had his best fundraising month of the campaign, raising $80 million,” explains Mook in the roughly 750-word missive — titled “Wake Up Call” — after trumpeting Clinton’s own $90 million haul between the campaign and other Democratic committees. “This was far more than anyone expected — and should be a wake-up call to all Hillary supporters. We must redouble our efforts in the coming weeks."

Clinton has had a robust fundraising operation going since she launched her campaign in April 2015, allowing her to build up a cash stockpile of $58 million heading into August and funding campaign ads across the country that Trump has been unable or unwilling to match — that's in addition to the big-money efforts from her supportive super PACs. But Trump’s recent cash strength after months of not lifting a finger to raise money has given party leaders pause, particularly since — as Mook notes — Clinton’s cash pace is behind that of President Barack Obama four years ago.

“While we are very proud of the more than $469 million our campaign has raised so far, we remain behind the historic pace that President Obama set in 2012, raising $520 million during the same time frame. With only three months to go, it is critical that we close the gap between President Obama’s record-level fundraising and the pace we are currently on,” reads the memo. “Falling short of the resources raised in 2012 will require us to scale back from the investments President Obama’s campaign made in organizing, data and other critical tools."

To avoid such a fate while matched up against a Trump operation with $37 million on hand, the campaign is sending both Clintons and Kaine on a fast-paced fundraising tour of the country on top of their public campaigning. And while many of their events were scheduled prior to the release of Trump’s numbers, the campaign intends to use Trump’s figures to amp up the urgency among its fundraisers.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 13:28:02
August 08 2016 13:26 GMT
#93445


Edit #1:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 08 2016 13:39 GMT
#93446
Wow, someone who's actually not past retirement age will enter this election
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46109 Posts
August 08 2016 13:42 GMT
#93447
So if Evan McMullin runs as an independent conservative candidate, that would take votes from Trump... which ensures that Hillary wins... right?

Sounds good to me.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
August 08 2016 13:48 GMT
#93448
I expect this dude to close his campaign about as quickly as it opens lol
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44122 Posts
August 08 2016 13:57 GMT
#93449
I suspect that the vast majority of votes cast will go to the two main parties, as always.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 08 2016 13:58 GMT
#93450
can he even get enough signatures to get his name on the ballots in any states? or is he gonna be in a write in guy
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
August 08 2016 14:01 GMT
#93451
are candidates somehow requierd to spend the money or can trump just pocket the money now and end his campaign? Seems like an easy way to become a multi-millionaire.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 14:03:34
August 08 2016 14:02 GMT
#93452
Third party bids for the oval office need to happen before the primaries. Otherwise they are just stunts.

On August 08 2016 23:01 RoomOfMush wrote:
are candidates somehow requierd to spend the money or can trump just pocket the money now and end his campaign? Seems like an easy way to become a multi-millionaire.


That would be fraud, so nope.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46109 Posts
August 08 2016 14:08 GMT
#93453
On August 08 2016 23:02 Plansix wrote:
Third party bids for the oval office need to happen before the primaries. Otherwise they are just stunts.

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 23:01 RoomOfMush wrote:
are candidates somehow requierd to spend the money or can trump just pocket the money now and end his campaign? Seems like an easy way to become a multi-millionaire.


That would be fraud, so ehhhhh maybeee.


Probably more accurate, considering so many politicians are corrupt.

Although to be fair, if Trump is committing fraud to become a multi-millionaire, then he's lost so much money that I could totally see him trying to pull a stunt like that.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
August 08 2016 14:09 GMT
#93454
Well, he's been doing that kind of thing all the time.

He owns some of the companies that produce his merchandise and he's paying himself handsomely for himself and his staff being allowed to stay in his own hotels.
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44122 Posts
August 08 2016 14:12 GMT
#93455
On August 08 2016 23:01 RoomOfMush wrote:
are candidates somehow requierd to spend the money or can trump just pocket the money now and end his campaign? Seems like an easy way to become a multi-millionaire.

What Trump did through the primaries is fund his campaign with loans he made to it while insisting that because he refused to take money from corporate donors he wouldn't be a sell out like the other Republican candidates. Then, once he'd eliminated them, he was able to pick up the Republican fundraising machine and take a shitton of money from everyone which he could then repay to himself. After people started paying attention to this arrangement and asking questions about it he said that he changed the loans to gifts but I can't help but wonder if he'd still have done the same if he didn't think he had a legitimate chance of winning. Given the current polls it looks like an expensive vanity fueled mistake at the moment.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
August 08 2016 14:31 GMT
#93456
So there is a law against it? An actual law that is actually enforced? Or are you just saying "no, that would be wrong..." and thats it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 08 2016 14:32 GMT
#93457
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
August 08 2016 14:34 GMT
#93458
On August 08 2016 23:31 RoomOfMush wrote:
So there is a law against it? An actual law that is actually enforced? Or are you just saying "no, that would be wrong..." and thats it.

Election law is incredibly complicated but yes, somewhere in FEC regs there is a prohibition of self-enrichment using election-related funds.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 08 2016 14:49 GMT
#93459
So Trump lied through his teeth about contacting Kasich for VP? Is there still any claim to Trump being less crooked than Hillary? I'd like to hear the argument.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22434 Posts
August 08 2016 15:02 GMT
#93460
On August 08 2016 23:49 Doodsmack wrote:
So Trump lied through his teeth about contacting Kasich for VP? Is there still any claim to Trump being less crooked than Hillary? I'd like to hear the argument.

??
The latest news I heard was Trump Jr actually did call Kasich's campaign staff to offer him the Presidency (A VP ticket with foreign and domestic power).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Prev 1 4671 4672 4673 4674 4675 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #136
herO vs TBD
YoungYakov vs SHINLIVE!
ByuN602
CranKy Ducklings210
Ryung 102
SHIN 86
CranKy Ducklings SOOP13
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 602
LamboSC2 390
Rex 109
Ryung 102
SHIN 86
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 21129
Hyuk 1630
firebathero 677
Jaedong 609
Zeus 572
Mini 394
Soma 258
EffOrt 239
NaDa 205
Hyun 164
[ Show more ]
actioN 152
Light 145
Snow 114
Soulkey 114
Rush 111
ggaemo 91
ToSsGirL 57
Free 55
PianO 49
Sharp 48
Movie 41
hero 39
[sc1f]eonzerg 38
Liquid`Ret 36
JYJ 26
JulyZerg 23
GoRush 19
Icarus 18
Noble 16
Hm[arnc] 13
scan(afreeca) 13
Sacsri 11
sorry 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5510
Dendi473
Fuzer 124
syndereN98
XcaliburYe65
BananaSlamJamma48
League of Legends
JimRising 345
Counter-Strike
kennyS2044
shoxiejesuss1399
olofmeister1247
x6flipin424
markeloff139
Other Games
singsing1483
Liquid`RaSZi965
B2W.Neo573
Lowko484
Hui .279
Pyrionflax41
QueenE25
Trikslyr21
MindelVK5
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream11503
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream1816
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2380
• TFBlade417
• HappyZerGling112
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
21h 59m
Douyu Cup 2020
1d 16h
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
OSC
2 days
Douyu Cup 2020
2 days
Neeb vs Impact
MacSed vs Cyan
Scarlett vs Kelazhur
INnoVation vs Dear
Douyu Cup 2020
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
herO vs Classic
Maru vs Serral
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Douyu Cup 2020
4 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
Online Event
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-19
WardiTV Spring 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.