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On July 29 2016 12:33 Doodsmack wrote: The positivity of this...it would be so grand if Democrats win just by differentiating themselves from Trump. He was well suited to the primaries, but in the end, he was beaten by a direct rejection of himself.
Well, we did it in Canada with Mr 'Sunny Ways' Trudeau. Much to my annoyance the Conservatives focused on hijabs in citizenship ceremonies and tip lines for 'cultural barbaric practices'. It got a temporary boost in the polls, but ultimately failed. I'm hoping for a better Conservative party to vote for in the next election because they certainly offering anything good in the last, just a bunch of fear.
IIRC support of hijabs in the citizenship ceremonies caused the NDP/Mulcair to go from 2 to 3. Mulcair dropped 20 points within 48 hours for doubling down on it. Canadians just didn't want a 4th term PM and a "not Harper".
On July 29 2016 12:44 FiWiFaKi wrote: Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line.
It is short sighted but its the only solution we have. The other option is to stop growing which is impossible because the whole financial system would collapse without growth. So we get the immigrants to pay for our babyboom pension and to keep a good balance between workers/non workers and when the immigrants finally get to the age of retirement we hope that increased productivity will be able to pay for theirs. And if not, o well at least we had another 25 years.
We don't only need immigrants btw,the people in china are also working for our pension to some extend. And when they start to consume more in china itself,india will take chinas place. And after that Africa gets its turn,maybe 50 years from now. Eventually we will have to face the reality,when the whole world has reached near max productivity but that wont be till the end of this century I guess.
The reason why truedou won the election was because he rocky'ed the Canadian people by challenging a political opponent to a boxing fight and beating the shit out of him.
On July 29 2016 12:44 FiWiFaKi wrote: Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line.
It is short sighted but its the only solution we have. The other option is to stop growing which is impossible because the whole financial system would collapse without growth. So we get the immigrants to pay for our babyboom pension and to keep a good balance between workers/non workers and when the immigrants finally get to the age of retirement we hope that increased productivity will be able to pay for theirs. And if not, o well at least we had another 25 years.
We don't only need immigrants btw,the people in china are also working for our pension to some extend. And when they start to consume more in china itself,india will take chinas place. And after that Africa gets its turn,maybe 50 years from now. Eventually we will have to face the reality,when the whole world has reached near max productivity but that wont be till the end of this century I guess.
We're rapidly moving to a post human capital economy and the west is excellently positioned to monopolize wealth creation when that day comes. Not for the proles of course but everyone who is able to get together some money in the next few decades can have a share of it.
On July 29 2016 16:26 Sermokala wrote: The reason why truedou won the election was because he rocky'ed the Canadian people by challenging a political opponent to a boxing fight and beating the shit out of him.
you can't touch a guy after something like that.
no he got the millennials to turn out (http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160222/t001a-eng.htm who doesn't like a guy who taxes the rich, practices yoga, does steamy photo shoots, selfie king, feminist and king of borrowing (Canadians love debt).
Unless you call this beating the shit out of your opponents
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On Wednesday, Trump angrily insisted that he has “nothing to do with Russia,” and said that he has no investments in the country.
On July 29 2016 12:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: His plan will be the same as hers. Frustrate her that she gets angry.
Hillary has been practicing answering dumb questions from the right for a few years now, it just makes her look more presidential.
And people wonder why I have to repeat that Clinton hasn't answered questions from reporters in 237 days now. Obviously there are still people that don't know.
The house wasn’t built for a Russian oligarch, although it looked the part. The 62,000-square-foot, 17-bedroom mansion is a palace of new-money flash, featuring Greek fountains, tennis courts, trompe l’oeil murals, underground parking for dozens of cars, and a 100-foot swimming pool and hot tub overlooking the ocean. It even had a faux-aristocratic name: “Maison de l’Amitie,” or the House of Friendship. It was the trophy of a Boston-area nursing home magnate, until he lost his fortune in 2004. That’s when Donald Trump scooped it up.
After paying $41 million for the place in November 2004, Trump called it “the finest piece of land in Florida, and probably the U.S.” He vowed to upgrade the structure into “the second-greatest house in America.” (Second, of course, to his nearby Mar-a-Lago resort.) But Trump had no intention of living there. He intended to flip it for a quick—and huge—profit. His initial asking price, less than two years after buying it, was $125 million. By the time Trump listed the property, in early 2006, the real estate market was already cooling off. The property sat on the market for about two years as a frustrated Trump churned through real estate brokers and slashed his price 20 percent. It wasn’t at all clear who might pay Trump three times his buying price for a neoclassical palace amid a looming recession.
In the summer of 2008, Trump found a solution to his problem in the form of one of the world’s hundred richest men: a 41-year-old Russian billionaire named Dmitry Rybolovlev. Then with a net worth that Forbesestimated at $13 billion, Rybolovlev had made his fortune in the wild west of 1990s post-Soviet Russia. He’d spent a year in prison on murder charges (he was later cleared) and wore a bulletproof vest when his own life was threatened. He would pay Trump $95 million for Maison L’Amitie in what was widely described as the most expensive U.S. residential property sale ever.
“People were shocked” at Trump’s coup, said Jose Lambiet, a local reporter-turned-blogger who knows Trump and once toured the property with him. “They couldn’t believe that he did it.”
“It was a great deal,” Trump told POLITICO in a mid-July telephone interview. “I’m good at real estate.” That’s hard to deny. Trump more than doubled the property’s sale price in less than four years. All it took was a signature Trumpian combination of bravado and exaggeration, along with something more controversial: Russian money.
The nature of Trump’s connection to Russia has exploded recently as a campaign issue, thanks to his friendly comments about Russian President Vladimir Putin; the ties that several of his advisers have to Moscow; his contrarian views on NATO and Ukraine, which happen to echo Putin’s; and his startling call on Wednesday for Moscow to find and release Hillary Clinton’s deleted private emails.
But the connection isn’t just political. Trump has repeatedly explored business ventures in Russia, partnered with Russians on projects elsewhere, and benefited from Russian largesse in his business ventures. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Donald Trump Jr. said at a real estate conference in 2008.
On Wednesday, Trump angrily insisted that he has “nothing to do with Russia,” and said that he has no investments in the country.
He should have just mentioned the clinton foundations ties to saudi-arabian oil money and called her a terrorist with blood money on her fingers. Much better to go on the offense when they try to pin you with the russian card.
Really zeo, has it been so long already? If someone, in this thread, had told me sooner, i might not had realized that trump holds press conferences all the time and afterwards someone, in this thread, has to say "he just did not mean it!". I prefer a political candidate that does not give answers to surprise questions over a candidate that answers surprise questions like Donald Trump
On July 29 2016 17:02 Broetchenholer wrote: Really zeo, has it been so long already? If someone, in this thread, had told me sooner, i might not had realized that trump holds press conferences all the time and afterwards someone, in this thread, has to say "he just did not mean it!". I prefer a political candidate that does not give answers to surprise questions over a candidate that answers surprise questions like Donald Trump
Hillary Clinton answering any kind of questions from the right is just plain false.
On July 29 2016 17:02 Broetchenholer wrote: Really zeo, has it been so long already? If someone, in this thread, had told me sooner, i might not had realized that trump holds press conferences all the time and afterwards someone, in this thread, has to say "he just did not mean it!". I prefer a political candidate that does not give answers to surprise questions over a candidate that answers surprise questions like Donald Trump
Hillary Clinton answering any kind of questions from the right is just plain false.
And where did i say she did?
On July 29 2016 17:40 NukeD wrote: Hillary Clinton is posibly the worst presidential candidate ever.
On July 29 2016 12:44 FiWiFaKi wrote: Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line.
This argument that you need to bring in more young workers to pay for old people is dumb.When those people that you brought in get old then you bring in even greater numbers? Total pyramid/ponzi scheme.
Pensions and old age support will still be their regardless. They just won't be offered (at least in the same capacity) to the current young generation.
I agree that the young won't be able to get pensions or cheaper healthcare but I still think that the current old age system is unsustainable, mostly due to the boomers retiring.
It seems that over the past decade the left/youth have gone from talking about sustainability and how it's impossible to have continual growth in a finite world (true) to now speaking in positive terms about very high levels of immigration in order to somehow pay for old people and if you don't agree you're racist.This was very much on show with the Brexit discussions the past few months.
On July 29 2016 12:33 Doodsmack wrote: The positivity of this...it would be so grand if Democrats win just by differentiating themselves from Trump. He was well suited to the primaries, but in the end, he was beaten by a direct rejection of himself.
Well, we did it in Canada with Mr 'Sunny Ways' Trudeau. Much to my annoyance the Conservatives focused on hijabs in citizenship ceremonies and tip lines for 'cultural barbaric practices'. It got a temporary boost in the polls, but ultimately failed. I'm hoping for a better Conservative party to vote for in the next election because they certainly offering anything good in the last, just a bunch of fear.
The combination of C-51 and pointing out how a piece of cloth will destabilize our nation will go down in history as one of the biggest election throws of our nation.
It doesn't help that Harper had the charisma of a robot. Trump is making it work because he's been in the business of building an image and persona without substance for decades. Steve has some uncanny valley going on with him. If the Conservative Party wants to follow that sort of line they'll have to find someone who's charismatic. Not that anyone in Canadian politics is particularly charismatic. Hopefully they don't and just stick to fiscal conservatism and centrist policies that generally appeal to Canadians.
But Trump showing how effective a scapegoat can be in a current day political election might shift the focus of the CPC over here, and they might double down on those tactics. Luckily we have three different parties in parliament to call them out on that stupidity.
In relation to the American elections, I don't think the "we're not him" strategy will be as effective. There's quite a few more people in the states who have been conditioned to buy into the tactics that are being used by Trump.
The lady who will do and say anything just to get ahead, whom lies just because it's in her nature, including defending and winning the case for a rapist against a 12 year old girl earlier in her career. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ03Nw7ohwwHilary
Laughing and joking about how she let the rapist get away with it::
^Please read that and tell me how that a "Defender of children" could even a accuse a 12 year old accused rape victim to make up a story like this.
Oh wait, she worked at the, "Children's defense fund." Man, she's such a fighter for childrens rights. Im going to go vote for her asap, what an amazing person, just kidding -- she's a witch who according to the accused rape victim went out of her way to accuse her of lying.
"He took a lie detector test! I had him take a polygraph, which he passed, which forever destroyed my faith in polygraphs [laughter]."
Come on, you really think Hilary though this guy was innocent? She's very intelligent when it comes to law, she knew he was guilty, she found loopholes in the system to get him off.
This is just one stone in a mountain of crap you can dig up on Hilary, "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck."
EPT
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