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11k homicides by gun. | ||
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Doodsmack
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On July 29 2016 12:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/758861830995316736 LMAO | ||
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TheYango
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On July 29 2016 12:34 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/758861830995316736 I'm pretty sure we didn't need the convention to tell us that. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
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Looking forward to that first debate | ||
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FiWiFaKi
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On July 29 2016 12:32 TheYango wrote: So what about the people who have spent years analyzing the effect of large economic changes and say that it isn't a long-term benefit? If you didn't even start considering the issue until your candidate brought it up, how can you say with such conviction that Trump knows better than them? I have an economics degree, and I've always been interest in research such as the economics of population control through incentives, and other questionable policies. Often, it's difficult to get funding for these things, and especially to get real world data, economics experiments can get very expensive as you have to pay people a lot to mimic realistic behaviour. If you read articles from big international macro economists like Krugman you frequently see that he disagrees with the decisions. At the end of the day, both parties are keen on keeping power, and I think that's a big driver in DNC wanting immigration and RNC not wanting them, as immigrants will allow DNC to dominate. At the end of it, it comes to selfishness, and when you need to win an election in four years, you wont be bringing these things up, because they wont be popular with people. | ||
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/ 11k-12k every year, gun homicide. CDC and Pew both line up to this. FBI's 9k number is from voluntary reporting from police departments. As I said, suicides by firearm ~20k, general firearm crime ~400k, self defense with firearms 50k-3 million. | ||
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On July 29 2016 12:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: His plan will be the same as hers. Frustrate her that she gets angry. When I read your first sentence I was hoping you meant that he would just agree with and repeat everything she said. Because that'd be ridiculous and amazing. | ||
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On July 29 2016 12:36 FiWiFaKi wrote: If you read articles from big international macro economists like Krugman you frequently see that he disagrees with the decisions. At the end of the day, both parties are keen on keeping power, and I think that's a big driver in DNC wanting immigration and RNC not wanting them, as immigrants will allow DNC to dominate. At the end of it, it comes to selfishness, and when you need to win an election in four years, you wont be bringing these things up, because they wont be popular with people. That doesn't explain why the Republicans don't just pivot in a way where the immigrant vote isn't so lopsided toward the Democrats. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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On July 29 2016 12:39 TheYango wrote: That doesn't explain why the Republicans don't just pivot in a way where the immigrant vote isn't so lopsided toward the Democrats. Because the senior citizens who lock step with the GOP would revolt. | ||
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On July 29 2016 12:39 TheYango wrote: That doesn't explain why the Republicans don't just pivot in a way where the immigrant vote isn't so lopsided toward the Democrats. They tried after 2012. But their base is a bit... | ||
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TheYango
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On July 29 2016 12:40 acker wrote: They tried after 2012. But their base is a bit... Good point. | ||
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Introvert
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On July 29 2016 12:39 TheYango wrote: That doesn't explain why the Republicans don't just pivot in a way where the immigrant vote isn't so lopsided toward the Democrats. The mainline GOP ("establishment") is in favor of "immigration reform." it's the base of the party that vehemently opposes it. It helped sink Rubio for instance. Good chance he'd be GOP nominee right now if not for the gang of eight. Edit: maybe. He was over-hyped as well. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On July 29 2016 12:38 biology]major wrote: Media gonna hype this mediocre speech and make it seem like the party is completely unified. Well back to twitter battles, but hopefully a press conference from HRC soon. So much unity, there was the whole protesting delegates forcing awkward counter chants, and the massive "barrier" around the convention keeping the large protests away, but other than that, yeah so much more united than republicans. Both parties are equally united just one is the establishment and the other the base. | ||
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