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On July 29 2016 12:03 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 12:01 Luolis wrote:On July 29 2016 11:59 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 11:57 Luolis wrote:On July 29 2016 11:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 11:54 Luolis wrote:I still can't, for the life of me, understand why there are people who actually want Trump to be their president. I guess america is just weird or something  Well roughly half of the voters right now want Trump, so there's plenty of people to ask S: Yeah, i guess we go with "america is just weird" choice then :D That or you don't believe what Hillary and the establishment says. And they are not addressing the issues that you think are important. And Trump addresses issues then? From what i've seen, he says whatever spit brings to his mouth (often times talking absolute bs) and talks over his previous statements so much that i'm not sure if even he knows what he really wants. To me it just seems like a sort of a dumb protest vote (kinda like Brexit) that might just result in shittier things for Americans. Luckily for me, i don't live in america, so it probably wont be that big of an effect on me. Immigration and protectionism are the two big ones imo. I think Brexit is a good choice btw, it'll just be costly short term. Hillary has jumped around on so many issues as well. Also, current gun rights are just fine, and I've made several posts in the gun thread using numbers to show that the people who are trying to change gun laws as not worth the trouble.
Good choice for what? As soon as it became clear that no one wants to follow through and leave the EEA all the key Leave points became null. None of what was sold in the EU referendum (immigration, "sovereignty", net contribution) are actual EU matters, they are EEA matters. And of course no one is willing to tank the economy to score some extremly short term populist points with the Daily Mail crowd.
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Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line.
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On July 29 2016 12:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line.
The replacement rate is pretty much neutral right now. The larger issue is if there are too few taxpayers to support a larger base of old people.
Also, America's a very popular place to immigrate to. I don't see any issues with having too small of a worker base any time soon.
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Well lets see what bump Hillary gets in the coming days. I didn't like the speech, but I do think it'll be quite effective in helping her out.
I think I would have preferred the RNC if they had more cut outs to other stuff instead of always having the camera on the stage, so chapeau DNC!
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So I am out of town for a wedding and drunk as fuck. Coincidentally, I am also pretending to be a democrat when discussing politics. How is the final night of the convention going?
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Just to give a graph of many that look the same:
https://www.auction.com/blog/chart-of-the-weekend-labor-force-participation-rate-continues-to-drop/
Labour force participation is on the down turn, and it'll continue to go down, so I think a too small labour force will be an issue. Universal healthcare will imo really shake the US system, their tax rates just are not ready for it.
And the US has a relatively rapidly increasing population, which I do not think is a good thing, so replacement rate doesn't really matter with the current immigration.
On July 29 2016 12:59 xDaunt wrote:
So I am out of town for a wedding and drunk as fuck. Coincidentally, I am also pretending to be a democrat when discussing politics. How is the final night of the convention going?
It's going in a way that you don't have to worry about becoming a democrat anytime soon.
Enjoy the wedding, and make sure you're a really annoying democrat as well to help the movement ^^
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On July 29 2016 12:59 xDaunt wrote:
So I am out of town for a wedding and drunk as fuck. Coincidentally, I am also pretending to be a democrat when discussing politics. How is the final night of the convention going?
It was pretty standard Democrat fare to be honest. Nothing controversial.
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United States43474 Posts
On July 29 2016 12:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
His plan will be the same as hers. Frustrate her that she gets angry.
Hillary has been practicing answering dumb questions from the right for a few years now, it just makes her look more presidential.
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I understand why the DNC wouldn't show images like this, but why would the media ignore it?
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On July 29 2016 12:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line.
This argument that you need to bring in more young workers to pay for old people is dumb.When those people that you brought in get old then you bring in even greater numbers? Total pyramid/ponzi scheme.
Channeling Jeb Bush it appears that the DNC is also hiring actors.700 spots at $50 a pop.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/07/25/20160728_dnc1.jpg
Edit : looks like they are trying to fill seats vacated by Sanders supporters that have been expelled lol!
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On July 29 2016 13:22 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 12:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line. This argument that you need to bring in more young workers to pay for old people is dumb.When those people that you brought in get old then you bring in even greater numbers? Total pyramid/ponzi scheme. Channeling Jeb Bush it appears that the DNC is also hiring actors.700 spots at $50 a pop. http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/07/25/20160728_dnc1.jpgEdit : looks like they are trying to fill seats vacated by Sanders supporters that have been expelled lol!
Yep, it was posted a few hours back, I thought it was super pathetic too.
And I agree with you, but that is the current reality at least in Canada, and the rationale that many people have given me on TL, and it's silly.
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On July 29 2016 13:22 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 12:44 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Either way, immigration to bring in more taxpayers to pay for pensions is short sighted as it spirals out of control... And the argument the left usually makes for immigration is to help with the aging workforce. It'll just make more issues down the line. This argument that you need to bring in more young workers to pay for old people is dumb.When those people that you brought in get old then you bring in even greater numbers? Total pyramid/ponzi scheme.
No, you bring in young workers because the entire economy is based on some dumb assumption that everything must be constantly going up. If profits and stock prices aren't climbing then the sky must be falling.
Pensions and old age support will still be their regardless. They just won't be offered (at least in the same capacity) to the current young generation.
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On July 29 2016 12:59 xDaunt wrote:
So I am out of town for a wedding and drunk as fuck. Coincidentally, I am also pretending to be a democrat when discussing politics. How is the final night of the convention going?
I hope all our bleeding heart idiocy has given you enough material to imitate.
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On July 29 2016 13:41 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 12:59 xDaunt wrote:
So I am out of town for a wedding and drunk as fuck. Coincidentally, I am also pretending to be a democrat when discussing politics. How is the final night of the convention going? I hope all our bleeding heart idiocy has given you enough material to imitate.
Being a democrat is ez, now i just need to make my way to a strip club and my night will be complete.
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and before I forget to mention it, Hillary suck at giving speeches.And her speech tonight was no different.
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The house wasn’t built for a Russian oligarch, although it looked the part. The 62,000-square-foot, 17-bedroom mansion is a palace of new-money flash, featuring Greek fountains, tennis courts, trompe l’oeil murals, underground parking for dozens of cars, and a 100-foot swimming pool and hot tub overlooking the ocean. It even had a faux-aristocratic name: “Maison de l’Amitie,” or the House of Friendship. It was the trophy of a Boston-area nursing home magnate, until he lost his fortune in 2004. That’s when Donald Trump scooped it up.
After paying $41 million for the place in November 2004, Trump called it “the finest piece of land in Florida, and probably the U.S.” He vowed to upgrade the structure into “the second-greatest house in America.” (Second, of course, to his nearby Mar-a-Lago resort.) But Trump had no intention of living there. He intended to flip it for a quick—and huge—profit. His initial asking price, less than two years after buying it, was $125 million. By the time Trump listed the property, in early 2006, the real estate market was already cooling off. The property sat on the market for about two years as a frustrated Trump churned through real estate brokers and slashed his price 20 percent. It wasn’t at all clear who might pay Trump three times his buying price for a neoclassical palace amid a looming recession.
In the summer of 2008, Trump found a solution to his problem in the form of one of the world’s hundred richest men: a 41-year-old Russian billionaire named Dmitry Rybolovlev. Then with a net worth that Forbesestimated at $13 billion, Rybolovlev had made his fortune in the wild west of 1990s post-Soviet Russia. He’d spent a year in prison on murder charges (he was later cleared) and wore a bulletproof vest when his own life was threatened. He would pay Trump $95 million for Maison L’Amitie in what was widely described as the most expensive U.S. residential property sale ever.
“People were shocked” at Trump’s coup, said Jose Lambiet, a local reporter-turned-blogger who knows Trump and once toured the property with him. “They couldn’t believe that he did it.”
“It was a great deal,” Trump told POLITICO in a mid-July telephone interview. “I’m good at real estate.”
That’s hard to deny. Trump more than doubled the property’s sale price in less than four years. All it took was a signature Trumpian combination of bravado and exaggeration, along with something more controversial: Russian money.
The nature of Trump’s connection to Russia has exploded recently as a campaign issue, thanks to his friendly comments about Russian President Vladimir Putin; the ties that several of his advisers have to Moscow; his contrarian views on NATO and Ukraine, which happen to echo Putin’s; and his startling call on Wednesday for Moscow to find and release Hillary Clinton’s deleted private emails.
But the connection isn’t just political. Trump has repeatedly explored business ventures in Russia, partnered with Russians on projects elsewhere, and benefited from Russian largesse in his business ventures. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Donald Trump Jr. said at a real estate conference in 2008.
On Wednesday, Trump angrily insisted that he has “nothing to do with Russia,” and said that he has no investments in the country.
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And sorry my liberal friends, but Chelsea sucks goat nuts, too. The comparison with Ivanka is less than flattering.
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Canada11388 Posts
On July 29 2016 12:33 Doodsmack wrote:
The positivity of this...it would be so grand if Democrats win just by differentiating themselves from Trump. He was well suited to the primaries, but in the end, he was beaten by a direct rejection of himself.
Well, we did it in Canada with Mr 'Sunny Ways' Trudeau. Much to my annoyance the Conservatives focused on hijabs in citizenship ceremonies and tip lines for 'cultural barbaric practices'. It got a temporary boost in the polls, but ultimately failed. I'm hoping for a better Conservative party to vote for in the next election because they certainly offering anything good in the last, just a bunch of fear.
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