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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42656 Posts
July 28 2016 18:26 GMT
#91121
On July 29 2016 03:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Just watched President Obama's DNC speech. My god, what an orator. What a preacher. What a boss. I said it when Michelle spoke a few days ago and I'll say it again: #1 power couple and best speakers.

Four more years!
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
July 28 2016 18:27 GMT
#91122
On July 29 2016 03:26 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2016 03:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Just watched President Obama's DNC speech. My god, what an orator. What a preacher. What a boss. I said it when Michelle spoke a few days ago and I'll say it again: #1 power couple and best speakers.

Four more years!

Considering how old the last 8 years have made him, 4 more may well kill him.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42656 Posts
July 28 2016 18:34 GMT
#91123
In other news the Republican side of social media is mad that Bradley Cooper (the actor from the film American Sniper) is at the DNC and a Hillary supporter when, as the living incarnation of Chris Kyle (renowned brown people killer), he really should be a Trump supporter. There is a sense that the actor has an obligation to go on living as Chris Kyle would and that by supporting Hillary he has betrayed the Republicans.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 28 2016 18:37 GMT
#91124
The more I follow this election the more jaded I become with politics.

And the less faith I have in democracy to continue to work in the future
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44316 Posts
July 28 2016 18:37 GMT
#91125
On July 29 2016 03:34 KwarK wrote:
In other news the Republican side of social media is mad that Bradley Cooper (the actor from the film American Sniper) is at the DNC and a Hillary supporter when, as the living incarnation of Chris Kyle (renowned brown people killer), he really should be a Trump supporter. There is a sense that the actor has an obligation to go on living as Chris Kyle would and that by supporting Hillary he has betrayed the Republicans.


It's almost as if an actor's job is to take on a role that might not necessarily be exactly the same as the actor's real life persona.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 18:38:36
July 28 2016 18:37 GMT
#91126
[image loading]

This is my favorite party of the Trump site. Military policy as written by a 8th grader. America will be a big, strong military no no one will stop us because we are so big and strong.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44316 Posts
July 28 2016 18:38 GMT
#91127
We will give Iran a wet willy! We will pants Russia! We will shove China into a locker!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 28 2016 18:41 GMT
#91128
Like the very state of affairs that Clinton and Trump are my two options this election

This isn't even democracy anyways
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21668 Posts
July 28 2016 18:44 GMT
#91129
On July 29 2016 03:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
The more I follow this election the more jaded I become with politics.

And the less faith I have in democracy to continue to work in the future

Democracy is a horrible system full of flaws

It is also the best system we have come up with in history.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 28 2016 18:47 GMT
#91130
On July 29 2016 03:44 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2016 03:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
The more I follow this election the more jaded I become with politics.

And the less faith I have in democracy to continue to work in the future

Democracy is a horrible system full of flaws

It is also the best system we have come up with in history.


That's debatable.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9118 Posts
July 28 2016 18:49 GMT
#91131
On July 29 2016 03:37 Plansix wrote:
[image loading]

This is my favorite party of the Trump site. Military policy as written by a 8th grader. America will be a big, strong military no no one will stop us because we are so big and strong.

But you already have that! And people call this guy 'fiscally conservative' despite promising a dozen lavish projects
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 18:50:49
July 28 2016 18:50 GMT
#91132
Also just finished watching Obama's speech. Other than the fact that he said that communists threaten America (whitedoge be warned) it's one of his very solid speeches. Felt a lot like an exit speech than a straight endorsement of Hillary though. More than half of it was talking about himself and his own presidency, as an attempt to tie it into how Hillary will be more of the same.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 18:53:15
July 28 2016 18:50 GMT
#91133
On July 29 2016 03:47 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2016 03:44 Gorsameth wrote:
On July 29 2016 03:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
The more I follow this election the more jaded I become with politics.

And the less faith I have in democracy to continue to work in the future

Democracy is a horrible system full of flaws

It is also the best system we have come up with in history.


That's debatable.


Everything is debatable on the internet, you would however be on the wrong side of this debate.

On July 29 2016 03:50 LegalLord wrote:
Also just finished watching Obama's speech. Other than the fact that he said that communists threaten America (whitedoge be warned) it's one of his very solid speeches. Felt a lot like an exit speech than a straight endorsement of Hillary though. More than half of it was talking about himself and his own presidency, as an attempt to tie it into how Hillary will be more of the same.


Yes thats what you call an endorsement, I have these ideas and values and things I did and want to do.

That sounds like the trolliest thing Ive seen all day.

GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 18:55:15
July 28 2016 18:52 GMT
#91134
I want to ask LegalLord/xDaunt/other Trump voters what they made of the AMA yesterday?

It's made me seriously reconsider the degree to which Trump is running a con campaign play for power.

Which leaves Hillary's play for power backed by the establishment vs Trump's play for power backed by a guerilla populist campaign

And there's like no point even talking or learning about anyone else because Stein and Johnson don't even have a chance

edit - and while I think Obama is a great orator who didn't do a terrible job in the oval office, I'm largely dismayed by how people seem to be chugging what he's selling like coolaid in that speech
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 28 2016 18:55 GMT
#91135
On July 29 2016 03:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I want to ask LegalLord/xDaunt/other Trump voters what they made of the AMA yesterday?

It's made me seriously reconsider the degree to which Trump is running a con campaign play for power.

Which leaves Hillary's play for power backed by the establishment vs Trump's play for power backed by a guerilla populist campaign

And there's like no point even talking or learning about anyone else because Stein and Johnson don't even have a chance


Just roll the dice and give the establishment your middle finger, given these options that's about as much thought that I need to put into my vote
Question.?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 28 2016 18:56 GMT
#91136
On July 29 2016 03:44 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2016 03:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
The more I follow this election the more jaded I become with politics.

And the less faith I have in democracy to continue to work in the future

Democracy is a horrible system full of flaws

It is also the best system we have come up with in history.

One country that has not been attacked by a foreign nation for 200 years has had a stable democracy for just under 250 years.

A lot of nations have had a stable democracy for less than 100 in a world with nuclear weapons. A lot of weak nations have had unstable democracies.

There are other systems of government that have been stable for longer than that, especially if under favorable circumstances.

Debatable to say the least.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 18:58:42
July 28 2016 18:58 GMT
#91137
NC GOP mistakenly attacks Kaine for 'shameful' pin

he North Carolina GOP mistook a pin Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) wore on his lapel while speaking at the Democratic National Convention Wednesday for the flag of Honduras, calling it a shameful move on the part of the vice presidential candidate.

"@timkaine wears a Honduras flag pin on his jacket but no American flag. Shameful," the state party said Wednesday in a now deleted tweet.

Kaine was actually wearing a Blue Star Service pin for his son, who is a deployed Marine.

The party's account later responded to the reporter, saying "We appreciate you letting us know. Thanks for letting us correct our mistake."


Source

This is too funny, but I'm glad they owned up to the mistake.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
July 28 2016 18:59 GMT
#91138
edit - and while I think Obama is a great orator who didn't do a terrible job in the oval office, I'm largely dismayed by how people seem to be chugging what he's selling like coolaid in that speech


I don't think there's a correlation. At least not as big as you imply.

Yes, Obama gets praised for his speeches, rightfully so. People love listening to him. I don't think it does matter what he's saying when he gives a speech like that though. It doesn't make Hillary look more appealing, it makes him more appealing, to the point that people wish they could get 4 more years out of him.

It's a bit like Samuel L Jackson. He could read the back of a shampoo-bottle to me and i'd still would listen as if i were mesmerized.
On track to MA1950A.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-28 18:59:34
July 28 2016 18:59 GMT
#91139
On July 29 2016 03:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I want to ask LegalLord/xDaunt/other Trump voters what they made of the AMA yesterday?

It's made me seriously reconsider the degree to which Trump is running a con campaign play for power.

Which leaves Hillary's play for power backed by the establishment vs Trump's play for power backed by a guerilla populist campaign

And there's like no point even talking or learning about anyone else because Stein and Johnson don't even have a chance

edit - and while I think Obama is a great orator who didn't do a terrible job in the oval office, I'm largely dismayed by how people seem to be chugging what he's selling like coolaid in that speech

To be honest I'm not really a Trump supporter. I don't like Hillary and I call bullshit on the many stupid things that her supporters say. But I hate the Republican party even more and it is so antithetical to my views that I might just have to vote blindly party-line against them.

The AMA, as far as I heard, was basically a wash. Not much there to look at.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 28 2016 18:59 GMT
#91140
On July 29 2016 03:55 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2016 03:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I want to ask LegalLord/xDaunt/other Trump voters what they made of the AMA yesterday?

It's made me seriously reconsider the degree to which Trump is running a con campaign play for power.

Which leaves Hillary's play for power backed by the establishment vs Trump's play for power backed by a guerilla populist campaign

And there's like no point even talking or learning about anyone else because Stein and Johnson don't even have a chance


Just roll the dice and give the establishment your middle finger, given these options that's about as much thought that I need to put into my vote


That's an alarming attitude for such a dangerous die to roll. Revolutions usually don't end well.
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