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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:15 plasmidghost wrote: Trump says what he wants without outside influence, that's his principle I was referring to Personally, I'll take (edit: a hypothetical) full-Shillary over whatever Trump feels like doing from one day to the next. | ||
CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:13 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Clinton just hit new record lows in her trustworthy and honesty ratings.68% now view her untrustworthy/30% trustworthy.Trump at 43% trustworthy. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/4-brutal-poll-numbers-that-greet-hillary-clinton-at-the-democratic-national-convention/ 30% find Clinton honest and trustworthy. She must love the poorly educated. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:08 plasmidghost wrote: I have no idea what Hillary believes. She hasn't had a single consistent policy in her life. Anyone can pay her and she'll vote for what they want. At least with Trump, Stein, and Johnson, they have principles and stick to them The fact that you think Trump has principles is amusing. The man has been caught completely contradicting himself within a matter of hours on issues. He's a compulsive liar and can't be trusted with anything. | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:20 Stratos_speAr wrote: The fact that you think Trump has principles is amusing. The man has been caught completely contradicting himself within a matter of hours on issues. He's a compulsive liar and can't be trusted with anything. I don't even know if he is lying anymore or if he is just that disinterested in the details where he says what sounds good to him at the time and just doesn't give a shit if he is right or not. | ||
plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
I don't actually believe any of that, I was just finding random comments on /r/the_donald and putting them here to see reactions that weren't part of an echo chamber. I honestly believe that Hillary is a politician just like any other, not any better or worse. | ||
IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:29 biology]major wrote: You have a healthy sense of pride and aren't a cuck. Good work. Coming from a cuck like you I'm not sure that's a compliment. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:29 IgnE wrote: Coming from a cuck like you I'm not sure that's a compliment. Cuck-ception | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44618 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:28 plasmidghost wrote: + Show Spoiler + I don't actually believe any of that, I was just finding random comments on /r/the_donald and putting them here to see reactions that weren't part of an echo chamber. I honestly believe that Hillary is a politician just like any other, not any better or worse. So you were just trolling the entire time? Who would you vote for? | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:28 plasmidghost wrote: + Show Spoiler + I don't actually believe any of that, I was just finding random comments on /r/the_donald and putting them here to see reactions that weren't part of an echo chamber. I honestly believe that Hillary is a politician just like any other, not any better or worse. ![]() my poe-dar is horrendously broken this election | ||
plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: So you were just trolling the entire time? Who would you vote for? Honestly, every candidate has their good and bad policies. Boring answer, I know, but right now I'm favoring Gary Johnson | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
Hillary seems to be making some bad campaign missteps but I will still vote for her. I voted for Bernie because I wanted someone to go ham on pushing for the progressive vision for the country. The way the GOP members of congress have acted the last 8 years has left a bad taste in my mouth. The left in its pathetic attempts to fight them on these things isn't much better. At least the GOP fights to win damn it. Its why No Fucks Given Obama is so good. While Clinton will talk more then she will actually do since she is about more steady change then radical ones, I still believe she will fight for that vision even if its a tamed down one. Trump is such a mixed bag who the hell knows. He clearly isn't part of some of the douchy regressive parts of the GOP who are against the social progressive stuff but in other cases he just says shit that is either banana nut bread crazy or extremely calculating to pander to certain demographics by pushing a those darker buttons among the populace. He could even be a fine president for all we know (outside of his economic philosophy which seems to be an extension of the trickledown garbage that blows for 99% of people). Either way I wouldn't want to risk him as a president, especially since GOP controls congress atm. | ||
{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
An unpredictable wildfire that destroyed more than a dozen houses filled skies north of Los Angeles with smoke on Monday after driving thousands from their homes. Some evacuees were about to return home on Sunday when unexpected winds stirred up the blaze that ignited two days earlier in brush withered by days of 100F (38C) temperatures and years of drought. The number of firefighters on the lines surged to nearly 3,000 as flames devoured heavy vegetation in rugged mountains and canyons near the fringes of the metro area. “All the experience we’ve had with fires is out the window,” said Los Angeles County deputy fire chief John Tripp, one of many who noted the fire’s special volatility on Sunday. More than 51 square miles were scorched and at least 18 homes destroyed since the blaze erupted on Friday. About 10,000 homes were ordered evacuated, according to the county’s fire incident webpage. It came after a man’s burned body was found in the fire zone this weekend, a death that was under investigation. Source | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States44618 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:45 plasmidghost wrote: Honestly, every candidate has their good and bad policies. Boring answer, I know, but right now I'm favoring Gary Johnson At least that's a less horrifying answer than "Obviously Trump, you filthy casual" ![]() | ||
PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:17 Nyxisto wrote: Hillary has a lawmaking record that is overwhelmingly liberal (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liberal-hillary-clinton-is-liberal/), how is she unprincipled? i think the issue as others see it is that she (i) tailors her message to different groups (ii) has moved left (thought id argue she's basically stayed approximately the same distance left of center as the center has moved left) and (iii) is a politician | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 26 2016 13:45 Slaughter wrote: If the Dems lose this election then they better damn sure show up during the mid terms (would be nice if they did that even if Clinton wins). Hillary seems to be making some bad campaign missteps but I will still vote for her. I voted for Bernie because I wanted someone to go ham on pushing for the progressive vision for the country. The way the GOP members of congress have acted the last 8 years has left a bad taste in my mouth. The left in its pathetic attempts to fight them on these things isn't much better. At least the GOP fights to win dammit. Its why No Fucks Given Obama is so good. While Clinton will talk more then she will actually do since she is about more steady change then radical ones, I still believe she will fight for that vision even if its a tamed down one. Trump is such a mixed bag who the hell knows. He clearly isn't part of some of the douchy regressive parts of the GOP who are against the social progressive stuff but in other cases he just says shit that is either banana nut bread crazy or extremely calculating to pander to certain demographics by pushing a those darker buttons among the populace. He could even be a fine president for all we know (outside of his economic philosophy which seems to be an extension of the trickledown garbage that blows for 99% of people). Either way I wouldn't want to risk him as a president, especially since GOP controls congress atm. GOP also has Pence. Dick Cheney may need a third heart at the thought of having that sort of power as VP. Also you take that back about banana nut bread. | ||
Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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