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CorsairHero
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On July 26 2016 12:52 Aquanim wrote: So Hillary has built a wall between the US and Mexico? Or banned Muslims from the country? Neither have built a wall or banned muslims. | ||
KwarK
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On July 26 2016 12:55 CorsairHero wrote: Neither have built a wall or banned muslims. Read his post, he said that what Trump says, Clinton has done. Trump has said he will build a wall therefore Clinton must have done it. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On July 26 2016 12:55 CorsairHero wrote: Neither have built a wall or banned muslims. Plasmidghost said "everything bad thing Trump says, Hillary has supported and done at one point." So it's not a matter of what Trump has already done, but what he says and wants to do. Supposedly, Hillary has already supported and done those things. Which is obviously bullshit. | ||
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Aquanim
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On July 26 2016 12:54 plasmidghost wrote: Funny thing is, Trump hasn't done either of these things. And yes, Hillary did support building a wall on the Mexico border On July 26 2016 12:55 CorsairHero wrote: Neither have built a wall or banned muslims. Yes, Trump hasn't *done* any of those things. But then, that's not what plasmidghost said in the first place: Just know that everything bad thing Trump says, Hillary has supported and done at one point. I appreciate your point of view, but try to limit yourself to the truth. Hyperbole does not help your cause. | ||
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On July 26 2016 12:58 Aquanim wrote: Yes, Trump hasn't *done* any of those things. But then, that's not what plasmidghost said in the first place: I appreciate your point of view, but try to limit yourself to the truth. Hyperbole does not help your cause. Hillary Clinton wants a physical barrier. Here you go | ||
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Plansix
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On July 26 2016 12:59 CorsairHero wrote: Hillary Clinton wants a physical barrier. Here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezaw-g6TIQI Those are some noticeable edits in that video. | ||
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Aquanim
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(As an outsider to your country) would I personally prefer Sanders to Clinton as President? Probably yes. Do I think Clinton is particularly trustworthy? Not really. Nevertheless, she's a damn sight better than Trump. Things will probably go downhill under Clinton, but I think they would no matter which candidate was elected. EDIT: At least with Trump... they have principles and stick to them What. Serious question: is that honestly what you believe? edit2: My understanding of Trump's position is that I have no idea whether he has principles he sticks to or not, since what he's actually saying changes all the time. | ||
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CorsairHero
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On July 26 2016 13:02 Plansix wrote: Those are some noticeable edits in that video. Ah... but she says it again! As recently as last November! http://www.latintimes.com/hillary-clinton-bragging-about-building-border-wall-keeping-out-illegal-immigrants-352631 | ||
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Mohdoo
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On July 26 2016 13:08 Aquanim wrote: A single issue on which Clinton's opinion from more than a decade ago (I think?) has overlap with that of present-day Trump is a long way from proving the assertion that "every bad thing Trump says, Hillary has supported and done at one point." (As an outsider to your country) would I personally prefer Sanders to Clinton as President? Probably yes. Do I think Clinton is particularly trustworthy? Not really. Nevertheless, she's a damn sight better than Trump. Things will probably go downhill under Clinton, but I think they would no matter which candidate was elected. EDIT: What. Serious question: is that honestly what you believe? It's some weird thing where people see bluntness as truthfullness and somehow someone being blunt means they can be trusted | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/4-brutal-poll-numbers-that-greet-hillary-clinton-at-the-democratic-national-convention/ | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
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It's chaos! | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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On July 26 2016 13:08 plasmidghost wrote: I have no idea what Hillary believes. She hasn't had a single consistent policy in her life. Anyone can pay her and she'll vote for what they want. At least with Trump, Stein, and Johnson, they have principles and stick to them Really? Trump, consistent? Sticks to his principles? Let's play this out. If only we could ask... Dear Mr. Trump, Since the 1980s, you have made very large campaign contributions to both major parties. Furthermore, you have changed your political affiliation several times in the past 30 years, from being a member of the Democratic party, to the Republican party, to the Reform party, back to being a Democrat, then Republican, then Independent, and now finally you’re a Republican again. Why should conservative voters believe that you’re the best Republican candidate running, since you have historically switched your political affiliation so many times and even threatened to run as a third-party candidate, effectively splitting the Republican vote in half and ensuring a Democratic president? And furthermore, you backtrack your individual platforms and change your mind on a regular basis, from your stance on abortion to your stance on gay marriage. So, Mr. Trump, why the hell should we trust you? The inevitable response: I direct you to my communications manager and spin doctor, Mr. plasmidghost... | ||
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KwarK
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On July 26 2016 13:15 plasmidghost wrote: Trump says what he wants without outside influence, that's his principle I was referring to Then why are his apologists always saying "oh, that? he didn't mean that, he just had to say that to win". | ||
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