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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 26 2016 03:23 GMT
#89381
And with that, the bernieorbust movement finally drew it's last breathe
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 26 2016 03:23 GMT
#89382
On July 26 2016 12:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:08 Plansix wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:08 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
He endorsed, as expected


He's been endorsing for weeks now, no surprise there


The loud boos as loud or louder than the cheers probably coming as a surprise to people who thought the party was united.

Yeah, those 50 people. They matter.


"The minority doesn't matter"
~Progressive Plansix~

The biggest hypocrite on teamliquid, caught out again?

Colour me shocked.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23311 Posts
July 26 2016 03:24 GMT
#89383
On July 26 2016 12:19 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:11 Plansix wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:09 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:04 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 26 2016 11:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 11:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
yeah shame about those 17m votes that outweigh enthusiasm


You really just don't get it. No question Bernie would get more of Hillary's votes than Hillary will get of Bernie's. Strictly from a strategic point of view it's the smarter choice.


right, you know why? id vote for bernie if he won because i understand whats at stake here.


Exactly. We won't. It's up to you all if you want to choose to lose or not.

I mean like 82% of bernie supporters already have switched, so as Silverman said, you're being ridiculous. On the bright side most of Bernies actual supporters will vote Clinton, and the lunatic fringe will vote for Stein or not at all like they always will.

The best part is Bernie is talking right to him and he gives zero fucks.

Thats the thing about cults of personality, at some point even the guy its based around stop passing the ideology check


The campaign was never about Bernie as he and I and most of his supporters have said. He's gotta do what he's gotta do and we gotta do what we gotta do.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
July 26 2016 03:24 GMT
#89384
On July 26 2016 12:19 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:16 Plansix wrote:
A 100% conversion rate would be insane. 90% is pretty great.

90% was before the leaks, she might lose some more. Look at the reddit frenzy over this, and there's millions of people there

Reddit has long been an r/the_donald and r/S4P echo-chamber.

If upvotes were votes, Sanders would've won by now, but alas they're not.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
July 26 2016 03:24 GMT
#89385
The top three DNC speakers of the night were undoubtedly Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Cory Booker. And instead of a scandal or appeal to Satan, *this* is the most important moment of the first night of the DNC. So, so, so different from the RNC, to replace fear with hope, and hate with inspiration.

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
July 26 2016 03:24 GMT
#89386
Credit to Bernie for stepping down/endorsing in exchange for policies. (as opposed to doing it for a position as others might)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15720 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-26 03:25:37
July 26 2016 03:25 GMT
#89387
On July 26 2016 12:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:19 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:11 Plansix wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:09 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:04 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 26 2016 11:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 11:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
yeah shame about those 17m votes that outweigh enthusiasm


You really just don't get it. No question Bernie would get more of Hillary's votes than Hillary will get of Bernie's. Strictly from a strategic point of view it's the smarter choice.


right, you know why? id vote for bernie if he won because i understand whats at stake here.


Exactly. We won't. It's up to you all if you want to choose to lose or not.

I mean like 82% of bernie supporters already have switched, so as Silverman said, you're being ridiculous. On the bright side most of Bernies actual supporters will vote Clinton, and the lunatic fringe will vote for Stein or not at all like they always will.

The best part is Bernie is talking right to him and he gives zero fucks.

Thats the thing about cults of personality, at some point even the guy its based around stop passing the ideology check


The campaign was never about Bernie as he and I and most of his supporters have said. He's gotta do what he's gotta do and we gotta do what we gotta do.

I'd say he emphasized pretty strongly the I importance of voting for Clinton as a part of his movement
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 26 2016 03:25 GMT
#89388
Donald Trump just secured the election
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
July 26 2016 03:26 GMT
#89389
On July 26 2016 12:25 plasmidghost wrote:
Donald Trump just secured the election


Why do you think so?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 26 2016 03:26 GMT
#89390
other people sure do a better job of making a case for hillary than she can do for herself
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 26 2016 03:26 GMT
#89391
Poll: Best speaker tonight?

Michelle Obama (13)
 
68%

Bernie Sanders (6)
 
32%

Cory Booker (0)
 
0%

Elizabeth Warren (0)
 
0%

19 total votes

Your vote: Best speaker tonight?

(Vote): Cory Booker
(Vote): Michelle Obama
(Vote): Bernie Sanders
(Vote): Elizabeth Warren



(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
July 26 2016 03:27 GMT
#89392
On July 26 2016 12:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:25 plasmidghost wrote:
Donald Trump just secured the election


Why do you think so?

There's absolutely no way Bernie's supporters are voting for Hillary. I was a Berniebro and I'm never voting for the party that fucked him over so hard and it really pissed me off that they attacked his religious beliefs or lack thereof
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 26 2016 03:27 GMT
#89393
On July 26 2016 12:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:19 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:11 Plansix wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:09 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:04 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:02 ticklishmusic wrote:
On July 26 2016 11:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 26 2016 11:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
yeah shame about those 17m votes that outweigh enthusiasm


You really just don't get it. No question Bernie would get more of Hillary's votes than Hillary will get of Bernie's. Strictly from a strategic point of view it's the smarter choice.


right, you know why? id vote for bernie if he won because i understand whats at stake here.


Exactly. We won't. It's up to you all if you want to choose to lose or not.

I mean like 82% of bernie supporters already have switched, so as Silverman said, you're being ridiculous. On the bright side most of Bernies actual supporters will vote Clinton, and the lunatic fringe will vote for Stein or not at all like they always will.

The best part is Bernie is talking right to him and he gives zero fucks.

Thats the thing about cults of personality, at some point even the guy its based around stop passing the ideology check


The campaign was never about Bernie as he and I and most of his supporters have said. He's gotta do what he's gotta do and we gotta do what we gotta do.

Yeah but people like you that he drew in aren't normally democratic voters anyways. The nature of the two party system is that both parties have to go to the center in order to win national elections, even if it loses them some of the fringes. The GOP has a legit problem that they're pandering so hard to the extreme right that its starting to drive their moderates to the libertarians or even democrats. The DMC is being very careful to not do the same.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
July 26 2016 03:27 GMT
#89394
On July 26 2016 12:26 LegalLord wrote:
other people sure do a better job of making a case for hillary than she can do for herself


Any one of Michelle Obama, Bernie, Booker or Warren would destroy Trump in a general election. It's so sad this year, the only democrat Trump can beat is Hilary. And the only republican she can beat is probably Trump...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
July 26 2016 03:28 GMT
#89395
On July 26 2016 12:26 ticklishmusic wrote:
Poll: Best speaker tonight?

Michelle Obama (13)
 
68%

Bernie Sanders (6)
 
32%

Cory Booker (0)
 
0%

Elizabeth Warren (0)
 
0%

19 total votes

Your vote: Best speaker tonight?

(Vote): Cory Booker
(Vote): Michelle Obama
(Vote): Bernie Sanders
(Vote): Elizabeth Warren





That's tough! I'm going with Obama > Sanders > Booker > Warren imo.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
July 26 2016 03:28 GMT
#89396
On July 26 2016 12:27 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:25 plasmidghost wrote:
Donald Trump just secured the election


Why do you think so?

There's absolutely no way Bernie's supporters are voting for Hillary. I was a Berniebro and I'm never voting for the party that fucked him over so hard and it really pissed me off that they attacked his religious beliefs or lack thereof


90% of Bernie supporters are voting for Hillary lol. Including me.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
July 26 2016 03:29 GMT
#89397
On July 26 2016 12:27 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:25 plasmidghost wrote:
Donald Trump just secured the election


Why do you think so?

There's absolutely no way Bernie's supporters are voting for Hillary. I was a Berniebro and I'm never voting for the party that fucked him over so hard and it really pissed me off that they attacked his religious beliefs or lack thereof


You have a healthy sense of pride and aren't a cuck. Good work.
Question.?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 26 2016 03:30 GMT
#89398
On July 26 2016 12:27 plasmidghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 12:26 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 26 2016 12:25 plasmidghost wrote:
Donald Trump just secured the election


Why do you think so?

There's absolutely no way Bernie's supporters are voting for Hillary. I was a Berniebro and I'm never voting for the party that fucked him over so hard and it really pissed me off that they attacked his religious beliefs or lack thereof

Well they didn't attack his religious beliefs. That was an email of a bad idea that never was put into action. And the only way he gets his progressive platform is if Clinton wins. He gets nothing under Trump.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
July 26 2016 03:30 GMT
#89399
I liked how Bernie laid out so many policies in this speech, and I like a lot of those policies.

As much as I hope that they can be implemented as decent laws later, I'm cynical that they'll end up bloated, watered down, or straight up rejected in Congress and forgotten.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
July 26 2016 03:30 GMT
#89400
On July 26 2016 12:24 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
The top three DNC speakers of the night were undoubtedly Michelle Obama, Bernie Sanders, and Cory Booker


Agreed. Michelle definitely takes home the gold tonight.
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