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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:08 GreenHorizons wrote: The loud boos as loud or louder than the cheers probably coming as a surprise to people who thought the party was united. Yeah, those 50 people. They matter. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:04 GreenHorizons wrote: Exactly. We won't. It's up to you all if you want to choose to lose or not. I mean like 82% of bernie supporters already have switched, so as Silverman said, you're being ridiculous. On the bright side most of Bernies actual supporters will vote Clinton, and the lunatic fringe will vote for Stein or not at all like they always will. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
based on social media comments I see, a decent percentage of Bernie supporters refuse to vote for Hillary. it matters, and it will make a difference, considering this could be a close election. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:09 Jaaaaasper wrote: I mean like 82% of bernie supporters already have switched, so as Silverman said, you're being ridiculous. On the bright side most of Bernies actual supporters will vote Clinton, and the lunatic fringe will vote for Stein or not at all like they always will. The best part is Bernie is talking right to him and he gives zero fucks. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46234 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:08 GreenHorizons wrote: The loud boos as loud or louder than the cheers probably coming as a surprise to people who thought the party was united. Bernie's speech was exactly what I expected (and should be of no surprise to anyone who's been following him): 1. Very inspirational 2. Very well laid out 3. A strong and logical endorsement of Hillary Clinton It's what he's been saying for weeks, and as a Bernie supporter I'm proud to be voting for the Democrats. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
They do, though. It doesn't do any good to pretend they don't exist, and they do represent a sizable contingent - the latest poll would put them at about 1.3 million (10% of sanders voters, specifically). There's not going to be any convincing them, of course, but it's important to note for strategic purposes. It signals to the trump campaign that continuing with shallow, vague appeals to the Sander's supporters is worth continuing to do. If they can be convinced to not vote Trump that's as close a victory as Clinton can get at this point. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46234 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:10 travis wrote: based on social media comments I see, a decent percentage of Bernie supporters refuse to vote for Hillary. it matters, and it will make a difference, considering this could be a close election. Social media is disproportionately for Bernie though (younger voters). Check out this article... It's encouraging news, that the vast majority of Bernie supporters (myself included) are probably going to vote for Hillary over Trump (or a third party candidate), since out of the only two candidates who can possibly become president, Hillary's policies and reforms and record are closer to what Bernie and I want than what Trump prefers. "90 percent of unwavering Sanders supporters plan to vote for Clinton in November ... Pew asked those consistent Sanders supporters whom they support in the general election. Ninety percent said they back Hillary Clinton. ... Most Democrats — even those who consistently supported Bernie Sanders in the primary — plan to back Hillary Clinton. Those Democrats are more likely to be moderate and, Pew's data suggests, more willing to accept compromise." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/ | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
"The minority doesn't matter" ~Progressive Plansix~ | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:10 travis wrote: based on social media comments I see, a decent percentage of Bernie supporters refuse to vote for Hillary. it matters, and it will make a difference, considering this could be a close election. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/ Pew did some research. 90% plan to vote for Hillary. The rest won't vote, which is why they don't matter. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:13 Plansix wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/ Pew did some research. 90% plan to vote for Hillary. The rest won't vote, which is why they don't matter. Posts like this are literally what makes them vote Trump - I see Clinton supporters making posts like this over and over all over the place, and it does them no good to take that tack | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24152 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:13 Plansix wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/ Pew did some research. 90% plan to vote for Hillary. The rest won't vote, which is why they don't matter. Just don't come back in november trying to blame people who don't matter for Hillary losing. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:15 Nevuk wrote: Posts like this are literally what makes them vote Trump - I see Clinton supporters making posts like this over and over all over the place, and it does them no good to take that tack Harsh talk on the internet - if you don't vote, you don't matter to politicians. End of story. This is why the youth vote is constantly ignored, because it is impossible to get them out to vote in numbers that matter. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote: "The minority doesn't matter" ~Progressive Plansix~ Careful bro with that logic the gays don't matter | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:15 Nevuk wrote: Posts like this are literally what makes them vote Trump - I see Clinton supporters making posts like this over and over all over the place, and it does them no good to take that tack It's a blunt way to put it, but essentially "we would appreciate your vote, we think that we can be buddies, but hey we can only meet you halfway there and its up to you. If not okay good luck we're gonna head over to the moderates and such with the same pitch". | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9236 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:16 Plansix wrote: A 100% conversion rate would be insane. 90% is pretty great. 90% was before the leaks, she might lose some more. Look at the reddit frenzy over this, and there's millions of people there | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:11 Plansix wrote: The best part is Bernie is talking right to him and he gives zero fucks. Thats the thing about cults of personality, at some point even the guy its based around stop passing the ideology check | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On July 26 2016 12:18 GreenHorizons wrote: Just don't come back in november trying to blame people who don't matter for Hillary losing. Don't worry Trump would have beaten Sanders anyways, it just would have been a closer race ^.^ | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Edit: Sanders is good and really delivered. | ||
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