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On March 17 2016 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 08:39 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 17 2016 08:34 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:32 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 08:27 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:01 farvacola wrote:On March 17 2016 07:55 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 05:58 Plansix wrote:
Man, every country with majority Muslim population must be a violent hell hole if that is true??? So why isn’t that the case? Oh yeah……. That's because when female genital mutilation is legal and a cultural norm, you don't have these acts as documented crime. Also, rape is also basically legal, and it is inherent in their culture and religion. Leave it to the liberal to not see anything passed statistics. I suggest you take a look at this book and other writings by Nawal El Saadawi to get an idea how inherently fucked up this culture is and it's treatment of women. http://www.amazon.com/Nawal-El-Saadawi-Reader/dp/1856495140/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1458168759&sr=8-9&keywords=Nawal El Saadawi You do realize that one of her most famous quotes is, "The feminists who are aware of the effects of patriarchy realize that we are all in the same boat from the dangers of patriarchy, and that the oppression of women is universal," ...right? Here's another lol: "Women in most countries have not achieved much, because they can't be liberated under the patriarchal, capitalist, imperialist and military system that determines the way we live now, and which is governed by power, not justice, by false democracy, not real freedom." Those are not mutually exclusive ideas. Both sides are equally suppressed by the patriarchy, but the types of attacks are merely different between both. One is more related to public violence (stoning, mutilation, acid burning, etc...) while the other is related to private violence (rapes, domestic abuse, prostitution) while both sides also had non-violent suppression (Enforced dress codes, limited business viability, silenced outraged, etc...) Although some acts of violence is seen as worse by westerners (like mutilation) it doesn't mean that western women are less attacked by the Patriarchy. Yeah in the west we stone rape victims to death because they dishonored men and Allah In the middle east they do it because god said so, in the west they do it because they feel entitled to. Which one being worse seems to be a matter of what color skin you are. They do? Where in the west do men stone women? You're really going to get nitpicky about the type of weapon used to implement violence? Women get shot in the united states for telling men they aren't interested. So don't pretend that shit doesn't happen here. Except that's illegal and rare and not culturally acceptable here. Big difference. American women are indeed oppressed and objectified, and that needs to be fixed, but it's not really helpful to embellish and say it's as bad here as it is in some of the Muslim extremist countries.
Didn't say they were the same. The Patriarchy is the same, but the punishments are different. Its still a lot better for most women to be in the US than it is for them to be in most other places--but being that some US states are equating miscarriages with murder, and imprisoning women who get abortions, to say there is no government and civilian attacks on women is bullshit. Are the attacks better/worse is purely subjective--I happen to think other countries attack women worse than the US, but I'm biased being that i live in the US.
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On March 17 2016 09:38 Nebuchad wrote:
Finally, we can move on from all this boring stuff like issues and policies and get back to which candidate is barking and who would be mocked by Putin. Thanks Drumpf!
I kind of wish Trump weren't in the election - that way we wouldn't have people buying attack ads.
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Barack Obama will make a historic address to the Cuban people, calling for more freedom but stressing that the US is no longer seeking regime change on the island, according to the White House.
This first speech on Cuban soil by a US president in almost 90 years will be the highlight of a three-day trip that also includes a bilateral summit with Raúl Castro, a joint news conference, a private meeting with dissidents, a baseball game and a moment to pay homage to the Catholic church for helping broker talks that led to the opening of relations in September.
Obama, who will travel with his wife Michelle and daughters Malia and Sasha, will be the first US president to visit Havana since Calvin Coolidge in 1928.
The trip is the culmination of a process that began with a historic joint announcement on 17 December 2014 when the leaders came together to signal their intention to begin dismantling the cold war-era embargo.
US officials are hopeful that Obama’s speech next Tuesday will be broadcast live on Cuban national television but have not yet been provided any guarantees of this.
Obama will be under pressure to demonstrate that his decision to open relations is helping to encourage political reforms. He met this week with prominent Cuban Americans to listen to their hopes and concerns about the visit. He is also taking a number of corporate leaders with him on a trip that is expected to mark a bonanza for US business and the start of up to 50 direct flights a day between the two countries.
Obama is expected to use his speech to call for civil rights improvements, but he will signal that the US no longer seeks to oust the Castro regime.
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Can't wait for Trump in the general election debates to toss out this line:
"If Hillary can't even satisfy Bill, how can she satisfy America?"
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On March 17 2016 10:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Can't wait for Trump in the general election debates to toss out this line:
"If Hillary can't even satisfy Bill, how can she satisfy America?"
Wouldn't be surprised to see Trump holding up a giant meme poster at his next rally.
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On March 17 2016 09:10 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 08:36 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:32 SK.Testie wrote:On March 17 2016 08:27 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:01 farvacola wrote:On March 17 2016 07:55 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 05:58 Plansix wrote:
Man, every country with majority Muslim population must be a violent hell hole if that is true??? So why isn’t that the case? Oh yeah……. That's because when female genital mutilation is legal and a cultural norm, you don't have these acts as documented crime. Also, rape is also basically legal, and it is inherent in their culture and religion. Leave it to the liberal to not see anything passed statistics. I suggest you take a look at this book and other writings by Nawal El Saadawi to get an idea how inherently fucked up this culture is and it's treatment of women. http://www.amazon.com/Nawal-El-Saadawi-Reader/dp/1856495140/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1458168759&sr=8-9&keywords=Nawal El Saadawi You do realize that one of her most famous quotes is, "The feminists who are aware of the effects of patriarchy realize that we are all in the same boat from the dangers of patriarchy, and that the oppression of women is universal," ...right? Here's another lol: "Women in most countries have not achieved much, because they can't be liberated under the patriarchal, capitalist, imperialist and military system that determines the way we live now, and which is governed by power, not justice, by false democracy, not real freedom." Those are not mutually exclusive ideas. Both sides are equally suppressed by the patriarchy, but the types of attacks are merely different between both. One is more related to public violence (stoning, mutilation, acid burning, etc...) while the other is related to private violence (rapes, domestic abuse, prostitution) while both sides also had non-violent suppression (Enforced dress codes, limited business viability, silenced outraged, etc...) Although some acts of violence is seen as worse by westerners (like mutilation) it doesn't mean that western women are less attacked by the Patriarchy. "Equally" Try that again. Women have the sincere and honest option of getting paid for their bodies here without retribution and protection of the law if something goes wrong. Yes, many prostitutes in Canada choose to be prostitutes of their own volition because the money is so good. The patriarchy goes out of its way in USA and Canada for women. They meet a lot of disrespect, but guess what, everyone meets a lot of disrespect. Rapes are far more common there, but they are a problem anywhere men are. Yes. Domestic abuse? Again, far more common over there. Let's try not to compare Acid attacks and complete dominion over women to a place where good looking women can literally go on Tinder and get a free meal any time they want. (I know a girl who uses it that way and she's suckered over a hundred guys out of free meals). The violence is different, and the expectations of women are different--but the amount of patriarchy is about the same. When one starts suggesting women are equally oppressed in, say, Austria and Afghanistan, one quickly makes all one's opponents lose interest in women's rights because if the huge strides civilization has taken in the last 100 years haven't done anything, it would obviously be a futile enterprise.
This is where a lot of problems most males have when discussions of the patrairchy is brought up.
Oppressed is an abstract word. Oppression in the west is not the same as oppression in Syria--but that doesn't mean oppression in the west doesn't happen. Oppressors don't need to reach genocide levels of attacks before their oppression counts as oppression. For the most part, discussions of social oppression is about how deeply embedded those practices are more than the specific practices themselves.
As an example: I believe genital mutilation is worse than being paid less than men. But I also believe being paid less than men is worse than being told to cover up your body. The various ways the west and the east oppresses women will, for the most part, always be subjective as to which is worse--and both will always evolve how they oppress them. The concept of the patriarchy as a problem is not the specific oppressions thrown on women, but is instead looking at how deeply embedded and resistant to change that oppression anchors into the society.
As an example, even on TL, there are lots of folks who will argue women are better treated than men in the US. This is TL, not the backwoods of the Ozarks. If men don't think there's a problem here then its 1000% worse when you go to the actual red states of america. That is an example of how deeply entrenched the patrairchy is in the west--when even a website of mostly liberal, international, westerners can't even get a plurality that women have a problem.
Is it worse than bing stoned to death? It doesn't really matter either or--oppression is oppression even though someone is getting it worse.
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"Hilary Clinton is a total bitch"
"My name is Donald Trump and I approve this message."
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only way this works is if trump trolls the fuck out of liberals who in turn act out crazy and such.
if hillary just bring a dignified air of srs biz should be ok. also talk about mother and daughter, or grandma and grand daughter.
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Please make a list of demands so that we might channel our energy in a useful way to dismantle the patriarchy.
What forms of oppression are you most against?
We have gender gap (debunked multiple times)?
and.. ? I'll wait for a long list, and if they are valid claims I will join the fight.
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To the post below. No. 70c on the dollar is a myth.
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On March 17 2016 10:01 Naracs_Duc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 17 2016 08:39 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 17 2016 08:34 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:32 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 08:27 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:01 farvacola wrote:On March 17 2016 07:55 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 05:58 Plansix wrote:
Man, every country with majority Muslim population must be a violent hell hole if that is true??? So why isn’t that the case? Oh yeah……. That's because when female genital mutilation is legal and a cultural norm, you don't have these acts as documented crime. Also, rape is also basically legal, and it is inherent in their culture and religion. Leave it to the liberal to not see anything passed statistics. I suggest you take a look at this book and other writings by Nawal El Saadawi to get an idea how inherently fucked up this culture is and it's treatment of women. http://www.amazon.com/Nawal-El-Saadawi-Reader/dp/1856495140/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1458168759&sr=8-9&keywords=Nawal El Saadawi You do realize that one of her most famous quotes is, "The feminists who are aware of the effects of patriarchy realize that we are all in the same boat from the dangers of patriarchy, and that the oppression of women is universal," ...right? Here's another lol: "Women in most countries have not achieved much, because they can't be liberated under the patriarchal, capitalist, imperialist and military system that determines the way we live now, and which is governed by power, not justice, by false democracy, not real freedom." Those are not mutually exclusive ideas. Both sides are equally suppressed by the patriarchy, but the types of attacks are merely different between both. One is more related to public violence (stoning, mutilation, acid burning, etc...) while the other is related to private violence (rapes, domestic abuse, prostitution) while both sides also had non-violent suppression (Enforced dress codes, limited business viability, silenced outraged, etc...) Although some acts of violence is seen as worse by westerners (like mutilation) it doesn't mean that western women are less attacked by the Patriarchy. Yeah in the west we stone rape victims to death because they dishonored men and Allah In the middle east they do it because god said so, in the west they do it because they feel entitled to. Which one being worse seems to be a matter of what color skin you are. They do? Where in the west do men stone women? You're really going to get nitpicky about the type of weapon used to implement violence? Women get shot in the united states for telling men they aren't interested. So don't pretend that shit doesn't happen here. Except that's illegal and rare and not culturally acceptable here. Big difference. American women are indeed oppressed and objectified, and that needs to be fixed, but it's not really helpful to embellish and say it's as bad here as it is in some of the Muslim extremist countries. Didn't say they were the same. The Patriarchy is the same, but the punishments are different. Its still a lot better for most women to be in the US than it is for them to be in most other places--but being that some US states are equating miscarriages with murder, and imprisoning women who get abortions, to say there is no government and civilian attacks on women is bullshit. Are the attacks better/worse is purely subjective--I happen to think other countries attack women worse than the US, but I'm biased being that i live in the US.
Yes you did say they were the same. You said things like
"Both sides are equally suppressed by the patriarchy", and that's simply not true. Making 70 cents for every dollar a man makes is bad, but not as bad as not being able to go to school or being killed for being raped.
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On March 17 2016 10:20 oneofthem wrote:
only way this works is if trump trolls the fuck out of liberals who in turn act out crazy and such.
if hillary just bring a dignified air of srs biz should be ok. also talk about mother and daughter, or grandma and grand daughter.
lol You know that's exactly what he's going to do. He already got people with his pledge that people painted as a Nazi salute. Are Clinton supporters really so naive?
Yeah put his daughter in a side by side with Hillary's that should go well for her in this country lol...
Every time she would get serious, he'd just say that's what her donors and superPAC tell her to say and cut her off.
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On March 17 2016 10:26 SK.Testie wrote:Please make a list of demands so that we might channel our energy in a useful way to dismantle the patriarchy. What forms of oppression are you most against? We have gender gap (debunked multiple times)?and.. ? I'll wait for a long list, and if they are valid claims I will join the fight. ? ? ? ? ? To the post below. No. 70c on the dollar is a myth. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM
I know you were trolling last night with your kale fit; I'm not going to fall for it again 
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On March 17 2016 10:14 Naracs_Duc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 09:10 oBlade wrote:On March 17 2016 08:36 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:32 SK.Testie wrote:On March 17 2016 08:27 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:01 farvacola wrote:On March 17 2016 07:55 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 05:58 Plansix wrote:
Man, every country with majority Muslim population must be a violent hell hole if that is true??? So why isn’t that the case? Oh yeah……. That's because when female genital mutilation is legal and a cultural norm, you don't have these acts as documented crime. Also, rape is also basically legal, and it is inherent in their culture and religion. Leave it to the liberal to not see anything passed statistics. I suggest you take a look at this book and other writings by Nawal El Saadawi to get an idea how inherently fucked up this culture is and it's treatment of women. http://www.amazon.com/Nawal-El-Saadawi-Reader/dp/1856495140/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1458168759&sr=8-9&keywords=Nawal El Saadawi You do realize that one of her most famous quotes is, "The feminists who are aware of the effects of patriarchy realize that we are all in the same boat from the dangers of patriarchy, and that the oppression of women is universal," ...right? Here's another lol: "Women in most countries have not achieved much, because they can't be liberated under the patriarchal, capitalist, imperialist and military system that determines the way we live now, and which is governed by power, not justice, by false democracy, not real freedom." Those are not mutually exclusive ideas. Both sides are equally suppressed by the patriarchy, but the types of attacks are merely different between both. One is more related to public violence (stoning, mutilation, acid burning, etc...) while the other is related to private violence (rapes, domestic abuse, prostitution) while both sides also had non-violent suppression (Enforced dress codes, limited business viability, silenced outraged, etc...) Although some acts of violence is seen as worse by westerners (like mutilation) it doesn't mean that western women are less attacked by the Patriarchy. "Equally" Try that again. Women have the sincere and honest option of getting paid for their bodies here without retribution and protection of the law if something goes wrong. Yes, many prostitutes in Canada choose to be prostitutes of their own volition because the money is so good. The patriarchy goes out of its way in USA and Canada for women. They meet a lot of disrespect, but guess what, everyone meets a lot of disrespect. Rapes are far more common there, but they are a problem anywhere men are. Yes. Domestic abuse? Again, far more common over there. Let's try not to compare Acid attacks and complete dominion over women to a place where good looking women can literally go on Tinder and get a free meal any time they want. (I know a girl who uses it that way and she's suckered over a hundred guys out of free meals). The violence is different, and the expectations of women are different--but the amount of patriarchy is about the same. When one starts suggesting women are equally oppressed in, say, Austria and Afghanistan, one quickly makes all one's opponents lose interest in women's rights because if the huge strides civilization has taken in the last 100 years haven't done anything, it would obviously be a futile enterprise. This is where a lot of problems most males have when discussions of the patrairchy is brought up. Oppressed is an abstract word. Oppression in the west is not the same as oppression in Syria--but that doesn't mean oppression in the west doesn't happen. Oppressors don't need to reach genocide levels of attacks before their oppression counts as oppression. For the most part, discussions of social oppression is about how deeply embedded those practices are more than the specific practices themselves. As an example: I believe genital mutilation is worse than being paid less than men. But I also believe being paid less than men is worse than being told to cover up your body. The various ways the west and the east oppresses women will, for the most part, always be subjective as to which is worse--and both will always evolve how they oppress them. The concept of the patriarchy as a problem is not the specific oppressions thrown on women, but is instead looking at how deeply embedded and resistant to change that oppression anchors into the society. As an example, even on TL, there are lots of folks who will argue women are better treated than men in the US. This is TL, not the backwoods of the Ozarks. If men don't think there's a problem here then its 1000% worse when you go to the actual red states of america. That is an example of how deeply entrenched the patrairchy is in the west--when even a website of mostly liberal, international, westerners can't even get a plurality that women have a problem. Is it worse than bing stoned to death? It doesn't really matter either or--oppression is oppression even though someone is getting it worse.
A large number of women would reject your sentiments also. What should matter is the content of what you want to say, not what parts you have between your legs for producing more people to disagree with.
It should've hit you before now also that women in the Muslim world have both less rights as laborers and suffer enforced modesty. It's like saying "we starved this person for 6 days and then beat him 30 times with a cane, and this other person, we starved him for 1 day and let him go, who's to say who had it worse, it's totally subjective." And when you say "both will always evolve how they oppress them" it becomes pretty evident you're working from a dogma - you're working backwards to fit the world to an assumption you've made about it. Like I said, your argument that it will always be there is self-defeating because it means if none of us has a chance at making a difference, there's no point in trying.
And your argument at the end is just circular. "I propose that women are oppressed in the west, but these people think women might even have it better as a class than men in the west, that just shows I'm right and women really must be oppressed." People disagreeing with you is not evidence that you're right or wrong about something. Not very persuasive.
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On March 17 2016 10:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 10:26 SK.Testie wrote:Please make a list of demands so that we might channel our energy in a useful way to dismantle the patriarchy. What forms of oppression are you most against? We have gender gap (debunked multiple times)?and.. ? I'll wait for a long list, and if they are valid claims I will join the fight. ? ? ? ? ? To the post below. No. 70c on the dollar is a myth. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM I know you were trolling last night with your kale fit; I'm not going to fall for it again
The Kale fit was pure fun but it was 100% true. If you're a fatty you will lose weight with that diet. It's quite literally impossible not to. But considering you keep hijacking the thread with womens issues yet not showing a single instance of women being oppressed, and astoundingly thinking that the west and other places oppress women in an equal way is complete, utter bullshit and you cannot be taken seriously. So when you say, "I'm not going to answer that question" it simply shows that your argument has no legs to stand on. So you can feel free to PM me the way women are oppressed as well. I think women have many advantages over men currently. I would say they didn't have these 50 years ago. But they have them now. I'd also argue that men have advantages over women inherently. (We're stronger, our sports are therefore way more funsies). I'd also argue that I really, truly, passionately do not care about this issue. But am still willing to hear it since you're bringing it up so much. I feel guilt at sidetracking this thread again.
xdaunt tried to make this thread great again. And I'm part of the problem now because I'm responding to these inane babblings that don't even attempt to define themselves using direct examples. The example used is heavily debunked. Completely. There's more sources on it. It's now common knowledge cuz "lul TV said it everywhere" but it's not. No company that could save 30% of it's labouring costs would not jump at the chance.
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On March 17 2016 10:37 SK.Testie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 10:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 17 2016 10:26 SK.Testie wrote:Please make a list of demands so that we might channel our energy in a useful way to dismantle the patriarchy. What forms of oppression are you most against? We have gender gap (debunked multiple times)?and.. ? I'll wait for a long list, and if they are valid claims I will join the fight. ? ? ? ? ? To the post below. No. 70c on the dollar is a myth. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM I know you were trolling last night with your kale fit; I'm not going to fall for it again The Kale fit was pure fun but it was 100% true. If you're a fatty you will lose weight with that diet. It's quite literally impossible not to. But considering you keep hijacking the thread with womens issues yet not showing a single instance of women being oppressed, and astoundingly thinking that the west and other places oppress women in an equal way is complete, utter bullshit and you cannot be taken seriously. So when you say, "I'm not going to answer that question" it simply shows that your argument has no legs to stand on. So you can feel free to PM me the way women are oppressed as well. I think women have many advantages over men currently. I would say they didn't have these 50 years ago. But they have them now. I'd also argue that men have advantages over women inherently. (We're stronger, our sports are therefore way more funsies). I'd also argue that I really, truly, passionately do not care about this issue. But am still willing to hear it since you're bringing it up so much.
On March 17 2016 08:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 08:39 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 17 2016 08:34 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:32 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 08:27 Naracs_Duc wrote:On March 17 2016 08:01 farvacola wrote:On March 17 2016 07:55 SolaR- wrote:On March 17 2016 05:58 Plansix wrote:
Man, every country with majority Muslim population must be a violent hell hole if that is true??? So why isn’t that the case? Oh yeah……. That's because when female genital mutilation is legal and a cultural norm, you don't have these acts as documented crime. Also, rape is also basically legal, and it is inherent in their culture and religion. Leave it to the liberal to not see anything passed statistics. I suggest you take a look at this book and other writings by Nawal El Saadawi to get an idea how inherently fucked up this culture is and it's treatment of women. http://www.amazon.com/Nawal-El-Saadawi-Reader/dp/1856495140/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1458168759&sr=8-9&keywords=Nawal El Saadawi You do realize that one of her most famous quotes is, "The feminists who are aware of the effects of patriarchy realize that we are all in the same boat from the dangers of patriarchy, and that the oppression of women is universal," ...right? Here's another lol: "Women in most countries have not achieved much, because they can't be liberated under the patriarchal, capitalist, imperialist and military system that determines the way we live now, and which is governed by power, not justice, by false democracy, not real freedom." Those are not mutually exclusive ideas. Both sides are equally suppressed by the patriarchy, but the types of attacks are merely different between both. One is more related to public violence (stoning, mutilation, acid burning, etc...) while the other is related to private violence (rapes, domestic abuse, prostitution) while both sides also had non-violent suppression (Enforced dress codes, limited business viability, silenced outraged, etc...) Although some acts of violence is seen as worse by westerners (like mutilation) it doesn't mean that western women are less attacked by the Patriarchy. Yeah in the west we stone rape victims to death because they dishonored men and Allah In the middle east they do it because god said so, in the west they do it because they feel entitled to. Which one being worse seems to be a matter of what color skin you are. They do? Where in the west do men stone women? You're really going to get nitpicky about the type of weapon used to implement violence? Women get shot in the united states for telling men they aren't interested. So don't pretend that shit doesn't happen here. Except that's illegal and rare and not culturally acceptable here. Big difference. American women are indeed oppressed and objectified, and that needs to be fixed, but it's not really helpful to embellish and say it's as bad here as it is in some of the Muslim extremist countries.
you're responding to the wrong poster, bruh
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On March 17 2016 10:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2016 10:26 SK.Testie wrote:Please make a list of demands so that we might channel our energy in a useful way to dismantle the patriarchy. What forms of oppression are you most against? We have gender gap (debunked multiple times)?and.. ? I'll wait for a long list, and if they are valid claims I will join the fight. ? ? ? ? ? To the post below. No. 70c on the dollar is a myth. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDj_bN0L8XM I know you were trolling last night with your kale fit; I'm not going to fall for it again
Is this a counter-troll? Because it has been debunked many times over that women making less "on the dollar" has to do with being in different positions, or getting remuneration through other means, and not literally just making less than men for the same job.
Even my university gender and diversity class was able figure this out easily enough.
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Donald Trump on Wednesday sounded like a man ready to take the stage as the Republican Party's nominee by acclamation at Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland come mid-July, delegate math and a debate scheduled (and later canceled) for next Monday be damned.
Denying him the GOP nomination as part of a contested convention, he declared, would "disenfranchise" the millions of people he is bringing into the party and could spark riots. The only problem: Delegate math.
Trump, who flooded the morning television shows with a deluge of off-camera telephone calls after a night of big wins that knocked Florida Sen. Marco Rubio out of the race, said that even if he doesn’t amass a majority of delegates by July, the party should unite behind him anyway. But Trump has a ways to go when it comes to getting to the magic number of 1,237.
At this point in the 2012 race, which began a month earlier than this year's, Mitt Romney was already on his way to securing a simple majority of total delegate votes, though even he did not get there until a resounding victory in Texas on May 29.
“I think we'll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didn't and if we're 20 votes short or if we're 100 short and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody, I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. I think it would be — I think you'd have riots,” Trump told CNN's "New Day."
Trump said he's bringing in all kinds of new people to the party, and those voices must be heard — or else.
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On March 17 2016 09:36 JW_DTLA wrote:Are you on the Trump train yet? I remember predicting this not too many pages ago.
Yep, I pretty much am by default.
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On March 17 2016 10:20 oneofthem wrote:
only way this works is if trump trolls the fuck out of liberals who in turn act out crazy and such.
if hillary just bring a dignified air of srs biz should be ok. also talk about mother and daughter, or grandma and grand daughter.
I seem to recall plenty of republicans comforting themselves with this line of reasoning six months ago.
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Shame that Sanders just couldn't keep his mouth shut about his communist plans instead of going on full attack on Hillary.
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