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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
noah smith on sanders trade position http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-06/sanders-fails-to-recognize-that-some-trade-is-good | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Introvert
United States5065 Posts
On March 09 2016 14:23 Mohdoo wrote: After Rubio's numbers today, who in Florida is gonna still vote for him? His run is so clearly dead. It would only be symbolic. Strategic voting is a thing. Most likely explanation for Rubio 5% in Ohio and 30% in Florida (depending on the poll). Just a theory. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 09 2016 13:38 Slaughter wrote: Still not good for Bernie though that he still overall lost on delegates gained since he got whomped in MS. Still though the upset could give him some momentum I guess. The polls suggested that he was going to crash and burn today. Instead he pretty much breaks even. That's pretty solidly good for Bernie. Soon we're going to leave the South too, so demographics become more favorable for Bernie. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On March 09 2016 14:26 oneofthem wrote: it is a serious question to ask, is sanders more dangerous than trump noah smith on sanders trade position http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-06/sanders-fails-to-recognize-that-some-trade-is-good As a sidenote, it's quite mindboggling that some presidential candidates (not only sanders) are not able to grasp TTP/TTIP - and why it's not a threat to US jobs and flat out state they will stop it. My flabbers are gasted every time i read dumb shit like that. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 09 2016 13:36 xDaunt wrote: Look at this fucking picture of Rubio that Drudge posted, haha: ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdE27dkUUAAmAxF.jpg) "These legs only need to carry me as far as Florida. Then I'm a player!" On March 09 2016 13:40 Jibba wrote: Also, it does not surprise me that Kasich is getting crushed here. Republicans in Idaho are all sorts of fucking crazy. Case in point: This piece of shit who shot a pastor, from Cruz's rally, in the head, and then drove across the country and attempted to assault the White House. http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/08/us/idaho-pastor-shooting/index.html Keep in mind a different Idahoan was put in prison for firing at the White House in 2011. I always say the worst part of Idaho are the Idahoans. Sounds like an apolitical kind of crazy. His manifesto referred to the earth being ruled by an ancient civilization of mars, whose vast conspiracy apparently involved the pastor that spoke at Cruz's rally. Cruz did take Idaho. On March 09 2016 14:11 Introvert wrote: After SC, there were many Cruz supporters who were thinking of backing Rubio under the (ultimately false) establishment narrative that Rubio had the best chance. After Super Tuesday, no one was thinking that anymore- it was quite obviously wrong. Whatever chance Cruz has, Rubio's is clearly worse. The reason Trump is so likely is that either A) he wins Florida/Ohio, and simply has too many delegates or B) Kasich/Rubio win their respective states, so no one drops out, and Trump continues to dominate a crowded field. This craziness is only helped because the upcoming states are better for Rubio (and maybe Kasich), but it's already too late for him/them. So do they go all out and play for a contested convention? That's what they are deciding now, if they weren't discussing it already. After all, rumors have been going around for at least a week now. There's so much bad blood between Cruz and Trump I have no idea how whoever wins will consolidate support for the general. There's still the rabid left pushing people to support the biggest hope to keep Clinton out of the white house no matter what his name is. But the voters that stayed home for McCain and Romney can just as easily not vote for the unlikable liar or the crass liberal flipflopper. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On March 09 2016 14:26 oneofthem wrote: it is a serious question to ask, is sanders more dangerous than trump noah smith on sanders trade position http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-06/sanders-fails-to-recognize-that-some-trade-is-good Noah Smith, awesome. Your post are so nice tonight, I hope Sanders has good reasons to stay till the convention. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
this was just far too entertaining and confusing for me | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
On March 09 2016 14:26 oneofthem wrote: it is a serious question to ask, is sanders more dangerous than trump noah smith on sanders trade position http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-06/sanders-fails-to-recognize-that-some-trade-is-good Hopefully so. Some trade is good sure. Increasing corporate power at the expense of democratic governments across the world while enclosing the intellectual commons with barbed wire privatizing of intellectual "property" seems to get short shrift in Noah's analysis. Lol @ the Bono quote btw. Just quote Bono if you want to vitiate your whole essay. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
On March 09 2016 14:31 LegalLord wrote: The polls suggested that he was going to crash and burn today. Instead he pretty much breaks even. That's pretty solidly good for Bernie. Soon we're going to leave the South too, so demographics become more favorable for Bernie. Is it even possible for Bernie to win the nominee at this point? I honestly don't know. From my (very limited) understanding Clinton is pretty far ahead in the delegate count right now, so Bernie would have to win pretty big at every state from now to win the nominee. But supposedly the upcoming states are more in Bernie's favor, but will that be enough? From what I know it seems like Bernie has a hypothetical chance at being the nominee, but if I were to RANDOMLY throw out numbers the odds seem to be 1-9 in Hillary's favor. Again I really want to stress that I don't have an informed opinion so take what I say with several grains of salt. | ||
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oBlade
United States6641 Posts
On March 09 2016 15:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Trump could beat Rubio in Hawaii... It's like he was born to do it. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 09 2016 16:04 Frudgey wrote: Is it even possible for Bernie to win the nominee at this point? I honestly don't know. From my (very limited) understanding Clinton is pretty far ahead in the delegate count right now, so Bernie would have to win pretty big at every state from now to win the nominee. But supposedly the upcoming states are more in Bernie's favor, but will that be enough? From what I know it seems like Bernie has a hypothetical chance at being the nominee, but if I were to RANDOMLY throw out numbers the odds seem to be 1-9 in Hillary's favor. Again I really want to stress that I don't have an informed opinion so take what I say with several grains of salt. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/democrats/ It wouldn't exactly take a miracle for Bernie to come out on top in the end. He is modestly behind in the race so far, but he's almost certainly going to close the gap (Hillary won't do as well in the rest of the race as she has in the South). That said, he isn't exactly a favorite to win, and it would be an upset if he managed to turn things around. After seeing Michigan fail at polling I'd put his odds at something around 20%. Clinton is very far ahead when you count the 400-something superdelegates that said they would support her. Given that the party base would splinter on the race being handed over to someone who lost in such an undemocratic way, it's probably gonna be the case that if Bernie is on track to win, the superdelegates will switch sides. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Pretty amazing breakdown of the media coverage of the raised right hand at the Trump ralley, and it taps into that growing disdain that the American people have of the media every time they play a story like this | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
Yeah, pretty much. It's not really comparable. But I just think people got carried away on their trump-hate and some of them honestly believe it and think it's "heading there." :S | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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