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On March 09 2016 04:01 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 03:12 Nyxisto wrote:
The stories about rich guys going broke left and right is mainly soccer stars who are twenty two and insane when it comes to money or businesses which is only natural, they lose a lot of money from time to time. If we're talking about private property in real estate or blue chips it's really quite impossible to end up poor. Obviously hard to end up poor, but very easy to lose value. Had a family member who had died, his net worth was around 30~mil, in a period of 5 years his family managed to mismanage his propeties down to <10 mil. Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 03:13 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 09 2016 02:59 KwarK wrote:
Median income is 30k. If we assume that living expenses are at least 20k then a married couple working for an entire lifespan together could maybe get up to a mil (inflation adjusted) with compounding returns. Oh yeah, of course. I just mean to point out that they will make more and still have ~$10m+ to pass on. Anyone who goes from being wealthy to not being wealthy has no one to blame but themselves. A stark contrast to the reality of millions of people,who no matter how hard they work, there are simply not enough opportunities/resources for all of them to be wealthy. I think it's pretty silly how hard some people work to defend people's ability to be wealthy for doing nothing, and how little effort, by comparison, they put into making sure anyone who works hard can get ahead. Yeah, god forbid people make enough money so that their next generation can live comfortably.
No doubt that wealthy people have far more influence on remaining wealthy than poor people have on becoming wealthy.
No one is begrudging people earning money or leaving enough for their children to live comfortably. That particular part of that comment is directed at opponents of the estate tax.
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I honestly don't get why Cruz would bother doing anything in Florida. Rubio is pretty much irrelevant beyond Florida, and he stands a decent chance of robbing Trump of delegates there.
As is, I don't see Cruz (or Trump) gaining an outright majority, meaning a brokered convention seems very likely in any case. Cruz's best bet seems to be to focus on obtaining a plurality of both the popular vote and delegates, to make the best argument for himself at that convention. Trump will be doing the same thing. Wasting resources in Florida when someone inconsequential has a chance of winning seems almost suicidal. Why not aim for Ohio while he's at it too?
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Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences.
I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third).
Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun 
CNN Matchmaker
edit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea.
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Got Sanders, then O'Malley, then finally Clinton.
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i got hillary as well but that thing didn't really outline her policies well
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On March 09 2016 04:07 oneofthem wrote:
for a very low information rich person it's pretty easy to get swindled when all your friends know you have money and are also dumb. still don't see the ability to avoid this situation as some sort of great ability, especially in this day and age of sophisticated wealth management once one venture outside of the tribal clan level of social contact.
The speech they sit down and give you as a rookie in the NBA, NFL, MLB... is that for every year you are in the league, you become responsible to house and feed one other person for the rest of your life until you die or go broke.
It's hard to tell family no. It drains you so fast.
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If Rubio wins Florida, he doesn't go anywhere. Same with Kasich and Ohio. I think Cruz is still playing for the win, he figures if Rubio is out he could edge Trump. There is no guarantee that he would get the nomination even with the most delegates. He can technically afford to lose NY, NJ, etc. And he has a chance to do very well in CA.
I don't know about the odds on this gamble, but I get the logic.
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1. Clinton
2. Sanders
3. O'Malley
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1. Clinton
2.O'Malley
3.Sanders
Color me surprised.
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The questions are super shit, and multifaceted, leading to a lot of possible wrong conclusions.
Some how ended up with Kasich, Fiorina, and Rand Paul. Rand Paul being maybe the closest I'd get to maybe supporting a candidate.
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It's all about the wording, not enough answers or choices to actually have a true opinion.
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On March 09 2016 04:46 radscorpion9 wrote:Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences. I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third). Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun CNN Matchmakeredit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea.
Isidewith seems much better.
https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
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Once Trump has the republican nomination he will completely change. It is all about being smart, being flexible, being a winner and getting the best deal possible for yourself.
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On March 09 2016 05:20 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 04:46 radscorpion9 wrote:Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences. I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third). Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun CNN Matchmakeredit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea. Isidewith seems much better. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
On that one I got Sanders, Clinton, Stein
That seems much more appropriate.
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Oh hey GreenHorizons, I got Bernie at 95, Clinton at 94, Jill Stein and Bloomberg at 91
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On March 09 2016 05:27 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 05:20 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 09 2016 04:46 radscorpion9 wrote:Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences. I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third). Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun CNN Matchmakeredit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea. Isidewith seems much better. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz On that one I got Sanders, Clinton, Stein That seems much more appropriate.
Yeah the CNN one seems more like one of those facebook quizzes
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Got Jill Stein. Probably still not left in the right way to get me to vote if I could ^^
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Rubio, Trump, Carson, Cruz.
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On March 09 2016 05:20 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 04:46 radscorpion9 wrote:Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences. I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third). Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun CNN Matchmakeredit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea. Isidewith seems much better. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
hillary or bloomberg kek
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On March 09 2016 05:24 trulojucreathrma.com wrote:
Once Trump has the republican nomination he will completely change. It is all about being smart, being flexible, being a winner and getting the best deal possible for yourself.
this is pretty much what I'm assuming. People forget about the '08 and '12 run of Mitt Romney, he pretty much 180'd on a fuck ton of policies after the primaries. Trump's edgy rightwing stuff will become a lot more dull post-primary, and he'll try and be a lot more populist with his "extreme" stances in the General election.
On March 09 2016 05:20 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2016 04:46 radscorpion9 wrote:Hey did you guys play the CNN 2016 Candidate matchmaker? As an outsider who has a very light knowledge on most of these issues, I thought it did a good job of keeping things simple, but deep enough to have meaningful differences. I got good old Hillary Clinton, with O'Malley in second. I think I'm happy with that, Hillary is pretty cool. But I certainly wouldn't mind Sanders either (he came in third). Here's the link in case anyone's interested. Its fun CNN Matchmakeredit: Also wow, I tried picking the most die-hard conservative answers, like climate change is a hoax, and apparently Rubio agrees completely? I had no idea. Isidewith seems much better. https://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz
79% with Gary Johnson, sounds about right to be honest. Shame he's not getting as much attention as he should. Best candidate imo.
74% with Bernie Sanders.
70% with Jill Stein.
Sounds about right.
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