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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 04 2016 12:21 GMT
#63361
however low our wage growth and middle class net worth it is still rekting russia by far dont kid yourself
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
March 04 2016 12:29 GMT
#63362
maybe he compares detroit to a gated community of wealthy managers outside of moscow? pokrovskyhills.ru
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2016 13:42 GMT
#63363
And Russia is set to implode if oil prices don’t go up.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12046 Posts
March 04 2016 13:43 GMT
#63364
But the rates!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46554 Posts
March 04 2016 13:58 GMT
#63365
Relevant to U.S. politics:

Everyone everyone everyone: go to loser.com right now.

You're welcome.

Frivolous lawsuit incoming?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 14:25:13
March 04 2016 14:24 GMT
#63366
On March 04 2016 22:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Relevant to U.S. politics:

Everyone everyone everyone: go to loser.com right now.

You're welcome.

Frivolous lawsuit incoming?


it used to direct to the whitehouse.gov page when we had dubya, that was waaaay back in the day though.

nettles, why dont you dump your life savings in the russian markets (bonds or equities, idc)? ought to make a killing if theyre doing so well
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 04 2016 14:24 GMT
#63367
idk i consider it a win if you have ivanka as a daughter. the model friends
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
frazzle
Profile Joined June 2012
United States468 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 14:38:35
March 04 2016 14:34 GMT
#63368
On March 04 2016 18:33 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 17:45 levelping wrote:
I am gobsmacked that the amazing country that brought humanity to the moon, lander robots on mars, gave me most of my childhood cartoons.... has large groups of people wanting Trump to be the President. Dear America, you guys are already great and you don't need to build a stupid wall to be great again.
The things you recall, what stuck out to you that made the country amazing, those feelings are feeding his slogan: Make America Great Again. You picked three examples, his supporters have dozens more. There's this general feeling of what's been lost. What an amazing country that did all these things, except, we're now a country that doesn't win anymore. We don't win anymore. When was the last time we won? We don't win on trade. We don't win on the military. We don't beat ISIS. We don't do anything. We're not good. We're just not the same place. We are going to win, so much

This is such baloney.

Just as the US went to the moon, we were embroiled in and losing a war that sucked our energy for a generation, not to mention the race riots we had just experienced and the trauma and triumph of the Civil Rights movement.

Prior to that we lost ally Cuba and saw Hungary fall behind the Iron Curtain.

The 70's saw the oil embargo and stagflation. The 80's saw Iran-Contra, a skyrocketing deficit and national debt, and AIDS.

This idea that the US "loses" now and didn't a generation ago is just total BS. For the last 25 years the US has been boss of the world in a greater sense than we ever were prior to that. I mean, if you want to be selfish, you can look to the recent financial crisis and see that the US is really the only nation to come out of it by now in an advantageous position.

Edit:- my apologies if your post was a tongue-in-cheek mockery of Trump and I just missed it
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
March 04 2016 14:39 GMT
#63369
It's normal, just like how older music are so much better, and retired baseball players were so much better.

It's bullshit, but normal bullshit.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 14:49:56
March 04 2016 14:47 GMT
#63370
It’s the narrative of American exceptionalism. We were the greatest before(even though we were not) and we could be great again if we just tried harder. We can no more “beat” ISIS than we could have won Vietnam. People want wars as simple as WW2 as depicted in the movies, but forget that how man civil liberties, taxes and material goods people gave to win that war at the scale we did. That it was almost impossible to buy meat during parts of the war.

People want to be exceptional, but our leaders don't want to tell them the cost.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 04 2016 14:56 GMT
#63371
This was the first debate I felt like I could genuinely see Trump's numbers going down. That was so brutal. I will be shocked if he stays steady in the following primaries.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 04 2016 15:02 GMT
#63372
On March 04 2016 23:56 Mohdoo wrote:
This was the first debate I felt like I could genuinely see Trump's numbers going down. That was so brutal. I will be shocked if he stays steady in the following primaries.

Sure, they got him a few times. But did anyone actually make a case for themselves? Rubio looked pretty bad today and Kasich is mostly a sideshow at this point. Cruz might go up, but he's probably less likable than Trump is.

The problem with attacking someone is that you end up looking bad as well. At this point Trump has firmly established himself as the "candidate to beat" and so most of the attention, good or bad, is on him.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 15:06:01
March 04 2016 15:05 GMT
#63373
its like one of those rpg games where its a party and theyre just plinking down a boss. trump is the balrog (or whatever) kasich is a priest, rubio is a fighter and ted cruz is some dude with a booger on his lip.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 04 2016 15:06 GMT
#63374
cruz is the scumbag dps
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46554 Posts
March 04 2016 15:15 GMT
#63375
On March 04 2016 23:24 oneofthem wrote:
idk i consider it a win if you have ivanka as a daughter. the model friends


I hear Trump would date and marry them, if they weren't his daughter's friends.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 04 2016 15:20 GMT
#63376
Please God, let Trump lose in November.

And lol @ xDaunt's claim that some people don't have a "working" understanding of the Trump phenomenon. Because it's so complicated.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 04 2016 15:25 GMT
#63377
On March 04 2016 23:56 Mohdoo wrote:
This was the first debate I felt like I could genuinely see Trump's numbers going down. That was so brutal. I will be shocked if he stays steady in the following primaries.

Agreed about the possibility of this affecting his numbers slightly, although I don't think they'll go down by much. But the man simply has no chance in a general election.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2016 15:34 GMT
#63378
So far he has been able to beat Republicans, who has the one of the lowest approval ratings in this history of the party and are all members of the lowest rated congress in history. Even with her problems, Clinton is a very different opponent for Trump and people’s perception of her will change when they are side by side. I also question how much weight the whole email drama will factor in general public’s perception of her when faced with the alternative of Trump.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 04 2016 15:37 GMT
#63379
My prediction is that people will care about the email scandal, but that ultimately it will prove to be only a slightly significant violation, the kind of thing that was better not done but not so bad that it undermines her work as Secretary. People do think that she's dishonest though, and that's an issue.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 04 2016 15:46 GMT
#63380
Republican Voters Kind Of Hate All Their Choices

Trump does not just divide rank-and-file voters from Republican poo-bahs. He’s also extremely divisive among Republican voters, much more so than a typical front-runner. In exit polls so far, only 49 percent of Republican voters say they would be satisfied with Trump as their nominee — remarkable considering Trump’s lead in votes and delegates. But compounding the GOP’s problems, Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz would leave only slightly more Republican voters happy.

The exit polls have asked Republican voters in seven states — here’s Tennessee, for example — whether they’d be satisfied if each of Cruz, Rubio and Trump won the nomination. Remember, these are actual voters — voters who gave Trump a win in six of the seven states where the exit poll asked this question — and not some hypothetical universe of “likely voters.” On average, just 49 percent of these actual Republican voters said they’d be satisfied with Trump. The numbers for the other two candidates were better, but not by much: 53 percent of voters said they’d be satisfied with Rubio, and 51 percent with Cruz.

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