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kwizach
3658 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:16 xDaunt wrote: Your reading comprehension is terrible. Try again. I didn't pay attention to the last part of his sentence. The only one who would qualify as a moderate is Kasich, yet some of his recent actions are not so moderate. It doesn't take a European to see that. What's your take on Ted Cruz' flat tax? | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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oBlade
United States6302 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:14 oneofthem wrote: uh how would that even split hillary's votes at all How would adding another star to Alpha and Beta Centauri affect their orbits at all? How would adding a bear to a cage with a lion and tiger affect who is dinner at all? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I don't see how adding an extra Republican to the race would hurt Hillary. Whatever damage is gonna be done is the right, not the left. | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On March 04 2016 08:45 xDaunt wrote: You have it backwards. The only future for the Republican Party is if it reconciles with its base. It has no prayer of winning anything otherwise. After the 2012 election, I said that the way forward was for the Republican Party to adopt a more libertarian bent. Trump is showing a different way forward. Regardless, the status quo is unacceptable and unsustainable. The Republican Party needs to revamp its platform. I'm curious as to what you consider to be the base the Republican Party needs to reconcile with which will win them elections. Compared to the combined popularity of Trump and Cruz, who are running away with the primaries by actively rebelling against the Republican establishment, Ron Paul got destroyed when he ran, and Rand didn't do much better. Libertarian policies just don't seem to be very popular with Republican voters. I don't think that Republican Party's overall base really cares that much about the specific economic policies in the Republican Party's platform. Instead, what matters most to the majority seems to be either the government not being protectionist enough (of American jobs, American interests abroad, American culture) or the moral issues (abortion, gay marriage, evolution, whatever) that Republican candidates have campaigned on addressing but have failed to address. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:25 oBlade wrote: How would adding another star to Alpha and Beta Centauri affect their orbits at all? How would adding a bear to a cage with a lion and tiger affect who is dinner at all? i give up | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:37 Kyadytim wrote: I'm curious as to what you consider to be the base the Republican Party needs to reconcile with which will win them elections. Compared to the combined popularity of Trump and Cruz, who are running away with the primaries by actively rebelling against the Republican establishment, Ron Paul got destroyed when he ran, and Rand didn't do much better. Libertarian policies just don't seem to be very popular with Republican voters. I don't think that Republican Party's overall base really cares that much about the specific economic policies in the Republican Party's platform. Instead, what matters most to the majority seems to be either the government not being protectionist enough (of American jobs, American interests abroad, American culture) or the moral issues (abortion, gay marriage, evolution, whatever) that Republican candidates have campaigned on addressing but have failed to address. Honestly? Both the Republicans and the Democrats have the same backers. They are owned by the same people until someone Sanders and Trump came along. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18356 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I think Kasich is more moderate, although I might be confusing political views with the fact that he's just more mild-mannered. Kasich is an economic moderate and a social conservative, isn't he? While he talked the talk about gay marriage, he has shut down more abortion clinics than Cruz could ever dream of doing... EDIT: Sorry, I meant of course that he has made Ohio a far safer place to have abortions due to building regulations. Silly me. | ||
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oBlade
United States6302 Posts
There is no such thing as "Hillary's votes" right now, at least not the way you think. Election day is... 8 months away? Tens of millions (even 100+) of people can't predict who they'll end up voting for come November. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18356 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:48 ErectedZenith wrote: Honestly? Both the Republicans and the Democrats have the same backers. They are owned by the same people until someone Sanders and Trump came along. Fairly certain both the democratic politicans and the republican ones are still independent people with their free will and all, even if their pockets get lined by businessmen... | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:53 oBlade wrote: There is no such thing as "Hillary's votes" right now, at least not the way you think. Election day is... 8 months away? Tens of millions (even 100+) of people can't predict who they'll end up voting for come November. i don't even know where to start with this one. you have no idea. | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:48 Acrofales wrote: Kasich is an economic moderate and a social conservative, isn't he? While he talked the talk about gay marriage, he has shut down more abortion clinics than Cruz could ever dream of doing... It may just be me, but I think that Kasich is only an economic moderate when compared to his opposition. His plan includes freezing all discretionary government spending except military, cutting the top tax bracket from 39.6% to 28% and lower the capital gains tax for that bracket to 15%, eliminating the estate tax, and cutting business taxes from 35% to 25%. That's not really moderate except when compared to something like a flat 10% tax and eliminating the IRS. EDIT: Oh yeah, Kasich also supports a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. I'm not sure how that meshes with the massive decrease in government revenue that would result from his tax cuts, but whatever... | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:54 Acrofales wrote: Fairly certain both the democratic politicans and the republican ones are still independent people with their free will and all, even if their pockets get lined by businessmen... Its all part of the show. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18356 Posts
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oBlade
United States6302 Posts
On March 04 2016 10:57 oneofthem wrote: i don't even know where to start with this one. you have no idea. Being exasperated doesn't make you a soothsayer. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On March 04 2016 11:11 Sadist wrote: trump making a penis comment..... wow It's mind-blowing. | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
how did they think starting to ask about rubio's hand comments would be a good idea... | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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