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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 20 2016 20:48 GMT
#59421
Well... early entrance polls shows show Bernie up among whites and Hispanics by ~10 points.

Still nervous, but things are looking good. Some casinos aren't as generous with letting their employees participate in democracy.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
February 20 2016 21:01 GMT
#59422
On February 21 2016 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Well... early entrance polls shows show Bernie up among whites and Hispanics by ~10 points.

Still nervous, but things are looking good. Some casinos aren't as generous with letting their employees participate in democracy.

I've seen polls all over the place today. Too chaotic to call IMO.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 20 2016 21:16 GMT
#59423
On February 21 2016 06:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2016 05:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Well... early entrance polls shows show Bernie up among whites and Hispanics by ~10 points.

Still nervous, but things are looking good. Some casinos aren't as generous with letting their employees participate in democracy.

I've seen polls all over the place today. Too chaotic to call IMO.


This is such a shit show for what democracy should be. Known about this forever still not prepared. Caucuses are just starting almost an hour and a half after they closed the doors.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 21:38:21
February 20 2016 21:38 GMT
#59424
So there's only like 9000 voters for the Democratic caucus. What a joke lol. It continues to frustrate me that these tiny irrelevant states have so much early influence.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 20 2016 21:43 GMT
#59425
meh clinton's lead is growing a bit. not a great 21st birthday so far

although I did sip my first legal brew at lunch. thanks mom
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 20 2016 21:46 GMT
#59426
This is going to be similar to Iowa it looks like. Even if Hillary wins by 1-2 delegates, it's a good showing for Bernie because that's pretty much a tie, which helps legitimize Bernie Sanders even more.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 20 2016 21:47 GMT
#59427
i know, but like iowa, if he were to win NV, it's YUGE
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 22:09:08
February 20 2016 21:50 GMT
#59428
Hillary seems to be in the "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat" camp

LAS VEGAS — Ahead of Nevada's Democratic caucuses, the Service Employees International Union is distributing literature to members touting Hillary Clinton's support for a $15 hourly wage for workers. But Clinton, who won SEIU's endorsement in November, has not actually endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage. Clinton has said since the beginning of her campaign that she backs a federal minimum wage of $12 an hour.

“Hillary Clinton supports our fight for $15 and a union,” read the SEIU fliers, which were distributed in English and Spanish. The literature also featured quotes from Clinton supporting New York’s proposal to raise wages for fast-food workers to $15 an hour.

“As president, I will work to raise the federal minimum wage back to the highest level it’s ever been — $12 an hour in today’s dollars — and support state and local efforts to go even further,” Clinton wrote last week on Medium. She wrote that she “strongly” supported the efforts of low-income workers to fight for $15 an hour.

Bernie Sanders has endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage.


Source

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 22:08:37
February 20 2016 22:06 GMT
#59429
im just letting the salt flow through me

happy cakeday darthfoley
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 20 2016 22:08 GMT
#59430
The entire idea of a caucus seems pretty stupid to me. Why not just do a proper primary?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 22:11:35
February 20 2016 22:11 GMT
#59431
On February 21 2016 06:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Hillary seems to be in the "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat" camp

Show nested quote +
LAS VEGAS — Ahead of Nevada's Democratic caucuses, the Service Employees International Union is distributing literature to members touting Hillary Clinton's support for a $15 hourly wage for workers. But Clinton, who won SEIU's endorsement in November, has not actually endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage. Clinton has said since the beginning of her campaign that she backs a federal minimum wage of $12 an hour.

“Hillary Clinton supports our fight for $15 and a union,” read the SEIU fliers, which were distributed in English and Spanish. The literature also featured quotes from Clinton supporting New York’s proposal to raise wages for fast-food workers to $15 an hour.

“As president, I will work to raise the federal minimum wage back to the highest level it’s ever been — $12 an hour in today’s dollars — and support state and local efforts to go even further,” Clinton wrote last week on Medium. She wrote that she “strongly” supported the efforts of low-income workers to fight for $15 an hour.

Bernie Sanders has endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage.


Source

https://twitter.com/andiwonderthis/status/701156372340027392

I am pretty sure that the content of that video is illegal, although I am no expert.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 20 2016 22:11 GMT
#59432
On February 21 2016 07:11 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2016 06:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Hillary seems to be in the "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat" camp

LAS VEGAS — Ahead of Nevada's Democratic caucuses, the Service Employees International Union is distributing literature to members touting Hillary Clinton's support for a $15 hourly wage for workers. But Clinton, who won SEIU's endorsement in November, has not actually endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage. Clinton has said since the beginning of her campaign that she backs a federal minimum wage of $12 an hour.

“Hillary Clinton supports our fight for $15 and a union,” read the SEIU fliers, which were distributed in English and Spanish. The literature also featured quotes from Clinton supporting New York’s proposal to raise wages for fast-food workers to $15 an hour.

“As president, I will work to raise the federal minimum wage back to the highest level it’s ever been — $12 an hour in today’s dollars — and support state and local efforts to go even further,” Clinton wrote last week on Medium. She wrote that she “strongly” supported the efforts of low-income workers to fight for $15 an hour.

Bernie Sanders has endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage.


Source

https://twitter.com/andiwonderthis/status/701156372340027392

I am pretty sure that the content of that video is illegal, although I am no expert.

Now when did the law ever bother Hillary?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 20 2016 22:12 GMT
#59433
On February 21 2016 06:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Hillary seems to be in the "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat" camp

Show nested quote +
LAS VEGAS — Ahead of Nevada's Democratic caucuses, the Service Employees International Union is distributing literature to members touting Hillary Clinton's support for a $15 hourly wage for workers. But Clinton, who won SEIU's endorsement in November, has not actually endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage. Clinton has said since the beginning of her campaign that she backs a federal minimum wage of $12 an hour.

“Hillary Clinton supports our fight for $15 and a union,” read the SEIU fliers, which were distributed in English and Spanish. The literature also featured quotes from Clinton supporting New York’s proposal to raise wages for fast-food workers to $15 an hour.

“As president, I will work to raise the federal minimum wage back to the highest level it’s ever been — $12 an hour in today’s dollars — and support state and local efforts to go even further,” Clinton wrote last week on Medium. She wrote that she “strongly” supported the efforts of low-income workers to fight for $15 an hour.

Bernie Sanders has endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage.


Source

https://twitter.com/andiwonderthis/status/701156372340027392


This really poisons the well...
rip passion
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 20 2016 22:12 GMT
#59434
On February 21 2016 07:11 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2016 06:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
Hillary seems to be in the "Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat" camp

LAS VEGAS — Ahead of Nevada's Democratic caucuses, the Service Employees International Union is distributing literature to members touting Hillary Clinton's support for a $15 hourly wage for workers. But Clinton, who won SEIU's endorsement in November, has not actually endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage. Clinton has said since the beginning of her campaign that she backs a federal minimum wage of $12 an hour.

“Hillary Clinton supports our fight for $15 and a union,” read the SEIU fliers, which were distributed in English and Spanish. The literature also featured quotes from Clinton supporting New York’s proposal to raise wages for fast-food workers to $15 an hour.

“As president, I will work to raise the federal minimum wage back to the highest level it’s ever been — $12 an hour in today’s dollars — and support state and local efforts to go even further,” Clinton wrote last week on Medium. She wrote that she “strongly” supported the efforts of low-income workers to fight for $15 an hour.

Bernie Sanders has endorsed a federal $15 minimum wage.


Source

https://twitter.com/andiwonderthis/status/701156372340027392

I am pretty sure that the content of that video is illegal, although I am no expert.


No it's not illegal but it is showing blatant cheating.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22051 Posts
February 20 2016 22:16 GMT
#59435
On February 21 2016 07:08 LegalLord wrote:
The entire idea of a caucus seems pretty stupid to me. Why not just do a proper primary?

Why have proper voting when you can have weird meeting like votes where you can fudge the process.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 20 2016 22:18 GMT
#59436
On February 21 2016 07:16 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2016 07:08 LegalLord wrote:
The entire idea of a caucus seems pretty stupid to me. Why not just do a proper primary?

Why have proper voting when you can have weird meeting like votes where you can fudge the process.


So that you can try to rig the outcome and have your supporters not be bothered by it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 20 2016 22:18 GMT
#59437
They're tied for delegates.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 20 2016 22:19 GMT
#59438
On February 21 2016 07:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2016 07:16 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 21 2016 07:08 LegalLord wrote:
The entire idea of a caucus seems pretty stupid to me. Why not just do a proper primary?

Why have proper voting when you can have weird meeting like votes where you can fudge the process.


So that you can try to rig the outcome and have your supporters not be bothered by it.

This is the kind of BS that's going to make people not come out to vote for Hillary in the general election.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 20 2016 22:20 GMT
#59439
rip passion
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
February 20 2016 22:22 GMT
#59440
On February 21 2016 07:19 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2016 07:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 21 2016 07:16 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 21 2016 07:08 LegalLord wrote:
The entire idea of a caucus seems pretty stupid to me. Why not just do a proper primary?

Why have proper voting when you can have weird meeting like votes where you can fudge the process.


So that you can try to rig the outcome and have your supporters not be bothered by it.

This is the kind of BS that's going to make people not come out to vote for Hillary in the general election.


If Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio becomes president because of Hillary's shit, it will be a harsh lesson for us all.
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