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On February 21 2016 07:08 LegalLord wrote: The entire idea of a caucus seems pretty stupid to me. Why not just do a proper primary?
Why have proper voting when you can have weird meeting like votes where you can fudge the process.
So that you can try to rig the outcome and have your supporters not be bothered by it.
This is the kind of BS that's going to make people not come out to vote for Hillary in the general election.
Who would think rigging the process would make even less people interested in voting for someone. But I'm sure people will try to guilt us in to voting for the cheater instead of the Republican. It's an absolutely disgusting perversion of democracy.
You do realize dumb shit happens on both sides, but I for one don't feel the need to point every single one out. Off the top of my head:
Two NH staff members registered to vote by putting down the campaign headquarters as their address Supporters sneaking into union meetings Some dude buying a billboard for a Bernie ad Lying about endorsements from news papers and DREAMers
Give it a rest. There are good reasons to support both candidates. Neither are saints (though one kind of pretends to be). They are both politicians. They both have skeletons, real, spinnable and imagined. They also both don't have perfect control over all their supporters.
Nurses? I forgot Nurses had sole possession of the color red... I was expecting something about Hillary being a Republican.
Hillary has been campaigning with blue shirts nurses with red, they were seen being given red shirts at caucus sites as to indicate there was more division among nurses than there really was.
Long list of cheating/deception already being reported. More to come for sure. Just gross.
On February 21 2016 07:31 ticklishmusic wrote: is sanders that worried about the i-read-whats-written-on-tshirts demographic?
Forget the t-shirts they broke the rules with this post caucus registration crap. Not to mention lying to people about minimum wage and lots more. You're cool with cheating to win that's up to you, but don't try to play it off as not a big deal.
On February 21 2016 07:38 Deathstar wrote: He's not even an American. He's just trolling.
Bernie supporters have a tendency to jump on everything as being against them. There are legitimate concerns like the post registration and falsely claiming Hillary supports the $15 wage. To make a fuss about wearing red seems trivial
On February 21 2016 07:31 ticklishmusic wrote: is sanders that worried about the i-read-whats-written-on-tshirts demographic?
Forget the t-shirts they broke the rules with this post caucus registration crap. Not to mention lying to people about minimum wage and lots more. You're cool with cheating to win that's up to you, but don't try to play it off as not a big deal.
both sides do dirty shit, hard as it is to believe.
you're grasping at straws bud. get over it. let it go.
On February 21 2016 07:38 Deathstar wrote: He's not even an American. He's just trolling.
Bernie supporters have a tendency to jump on everything as being against them. There are legitimate concerns like the post registration and falsely claiming Hillary supports the $15 wage. To make a fuss about wearing red seems trivial
It would be if it wasn't adding to a long list of deception and manipulation. It's so blatantly obvious the establishment is doing anything possible to rig/manipulate the elections that even cheating gets a shrug from Hillary supporters.
It's throughly disgusted me and I don't think there's any way I could ever vote for her. That's coming from someone who was going to hold my nose and vote for her before Bernie started exposing just how bad she was.
And so Sanders begins to finally unravel. Thank you black people! The voice of reason. Well, and other minorities that helped Clinton win. But mainly black people.
On February 21 2016 07:31 ticklishmusic wrote: is sanders that worried about the i-read-whats-written-on-tshirts demographic?
People really love their unions (for good reason).
It's not a t-shirt color that's important here (really?), it's pretending to have an endorsement from a union which didn't endorse you.
Yeah, that is kind of important.
"People are complaining about t-shirt colors?" "Rabid legions!" What fucking forum did I walk into today?
feel pretty much the same way. that's how the game is played, a little deceptiontrickery is built into the system. just about anything short of " not to be trusTED" cruz tactics should be kind of ok.
if the red shirt said "nurse union" and had a little asterisk and on the inside of the shirt you had the fineprint that hillary is out to win by cheating/deception and by reading the front you are agreeing an wave your right to talk to the press about it...
On February 21 2016 07:38 Deathstar wrote: He's not even an American. He's just trolling.
Bernie supporters have a tendency to jump on everything as being against them. There are legitimate concerns like the post registration and falsely claiming Hillary supports the $15 wage. To make a fuss about wearing red seems trivial
It would be if it wasn't adding to a long list of deception and manipulation. It's so blatantly obvious the establishment is doing anything possible to rig/manipulate the elections that even cheating gets a shrug from Hillary supporters.
It makes more sense when you consider the fact that these people think Sanders has a 0% chance of beating Rubio. If the DNC cheating Clinton's way to victory is what prevents a Rubio presidency, sign me up.
On February 21 2016 07:38 Deathstar wrote: He's not even an American. He's just trolling.
Bernie supporters have a tendency to jump on everything as being against them. There are legitimate concerns like the post registration and falsely claiming Hillary supports the $15 wage. To make a fuss about wearing red seems trivial
It would be if it wasn't adding to a long list of deception and manipulation. It's so blatantly obvious the establishment is doing anything possible to rig/manipulate the elections that even cheating gets a shrug from Hillary supporters.
It makes more sense when you consider the fact that these people think Sanders has a 0% chance of beating Rubio. If the DNC cheating Clinton's way to victory is what prevents a Rubio presidency, sign me up.
Right? The policies at stake in the next election (supreme court, IraqWar3, Dodd-Frank, ACA, capital gains taxes, voting rights, private and public unions, immigration, abortion) matter way more than the new de jour about what some politician did to win**.
**And these stories are weak. Compare the election scandals we keep hearing about to the crap the Bush2 guys did in Florida in 2000.
Maybe America is lost, where we've given up on democracy in favor of winning...
I still have hope that enough Americans will be turned off by win at any cost wall street lobbyist run garbage for Bernie and us to make this happen though.
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