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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 12 2016 03:06 GMT
#57941
Bernie is fucking her up on Wall St. donations YET AGAIN. She really doesn't have a good answer either
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 03:11:11
February 12 2016 03:10 GMT
#57942
Bernie: We are going to stop you from competing with cheap Mexican and Chinese workers, in Mexico and China. Instead you can complete with them here! Because they probably vote Socialist!
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 12 2016 03:11 GMT
#57943
Just here to mention Elizabeth Warren likes Hillary's financial regulation plan.

Hillary Clinton, hearing criticism for her ties to the financial industry, received the critical support of Senator Elizabeth Warren on Monday for her proposal to expand the Dodd-Frank regulatory structure and urging of President Obama to veto any legislation that would weaken Wall Street regulation.

“Secretary Clinton is right to fight back against Republicans trying to sneak Wall Street giveaways into the must-pass government funding bill,” Ms. Warren, the liberal senator from Massachusetts, wrote on Facebook after Mrs. Clinton published an Op-Ed article in The New York Times with her proposals to regulate Wall Street.

In the Op-Ed, Mrs. Clinton specifically called for Republicans not to defund the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which Ms. Warren previously oversaw. “Whether it’s attacking the C.F.P.B., undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisers, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we’ve made on financial reform,” Ms. Warren wrote, “she and I agree.”

As high-profile Democratic elected officials line up to support Mrs. Clinton’s candidacy, Ms. Warren has remained neutral. This month, 13 of the 14 Democratic female United States senators attended a fund-raiser and rally in Washington for Mrs. Clinton, but the headlines from the event mostly focused on Ms. Warren’s absence.

On Monday, Ms. Warren stopped short of endorsing Mrs. Clinton, but her message of support for the candidate’s Wall Street plan could do much to ease concerns that Mrs. Clinton’s deep donor base of financial executives would make her reluctant to install tough regulations.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 12 2016 03:11 GMT
#57944
On February 12 2016 12:06 darthfoley wrote:
Bernie is fucking her up on Wall St. donations YET AGAIN. She really doesn't have a good answer either

She was a senator for New York; she basically was Wall Street's representative. She might be better off saying that Wall Street isn't all bad and that we should defend the ethical parts of it while punishing the crooks.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 12 2016 03:12 GMT
#57945
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 12 2016 03:14 GMT
#57946
On February 12 2016 11:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 11:54 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:49 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


Those reforms were made as a compromise with the Republican Congress and with the support of many, many black community leaders. It was a failed experiment where people failed to predict the consequences, but not one where racism or there was intention to do harm. I highly doubt Hillary (or anyone else for that matter) knew that mandatory minimum were going to disproportionately impact minorities.


Your apologism is sickening. Everyone knows that black elites are on the same neoliberal bandwagon that white elites are. Combating racism for many black folks is simply combating discrepancies in relative participation in the upper middle class between races, while ignoring bigger picture issues about the size and situation of lower and middle class people generally. Whether or not they "knew" that it would impact minorities disproportionately is completely irrelevant.


If you haven't noticed, I've decided generally not to respond to you anymore. But since this is a live debate thread, I'll bite.

I'm providing context, and since it seems I have to state it outright, let me do so: the outcome fucking sucked.

However if you do something with the best of intentions but it has unintended and unexpected consequences you're an awful human being? Yes, it's your fault, but it doesn't mean you're an awful human being. It means you made a mistake. You have to acknowledge that (Hillary has acknowledged it's a mistake, though I wish she'd acknowledged it's one of hers) and try and fix it (which she will).


She either didn't make it with the best of intentions, or, if she did, she's an idiot who shouldn't be in office.


Does that apply to everyone who voted for it?


^This is such a piss poor political hip toss.



As if you wouldn't be sticking him for voting against an assault weapon ban had he voted against it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 03:18:19
February 12 2016 03:17 GMT
#57947
On February 12 2016 12:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 11:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:54 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:49 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JamesFTInternet/status/697972822346330113


Those reforms were made as a compromise with the Republican Congress and with the support of many, many black community leaders. It was a failed experiment where people failed to predict the consequences, but not one where racism or there was intention to do harm. I highly doubt Hillary (or anyone else for that matter) knew that mandatory minimum were going to disproportionately impact minorities.


Your apologism is sickening. Everyone knows that black elites are on the same neoliberal bandwagon that white elites are. Combating racism for many black folks is simply combating discrepancies in relative participation in the upper middle class between races, while ignoring bigger picture issues about the size and situation of lower and middle class people generally. Whether or not they "knew" that it would impact minorities disproportionately is completely irrelevant.


If you haven't noticed, I've decided generally not to respond to you anymore. But since this is a live debate thread, I'll bite.

I'm providing context, and since it seems I have to state it outright, let me do so: the outcome fucking sucked.

However if you do something with the best of intentions but it has unintended and unexpected consequences you're an awful human being? Yes, it's your fault, but it doesn't mean you're an awful human being. It means you made a mistake. You have to acknowledge that (Hillary has acknowledged it's a mistake, though I wish she'd acknowledged it's one of hers) and try and fix it (which she will).


She either didn't make it with the best of intentions, or, if she did, she's an idiot who shouldn't be in office.


Does that apply to everyone who voted for it?


^This is such a piss poor political hip toss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTn3jUoMdVI

As if you wouldn't be sticking him for voting against an assault weapon ban had he voted against it.


How so?

And no. To me there's a difference: there's a huge body of research out there showing guns cause all sorts of problems, people had no idea that mandatory minimums and the sort of things in welfare reform would have such unintended consequences.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 12 2016 03:18 GMT
#57948
Hillary looks like a giant banana tonight.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4884 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 03:20:02
February 12 2016 03:19 GMT
#57949
On February 12 2016 12:10 cLutZ wrote:
Bernie: We are going to stop you from competing with cheap Mexican and Chinese workers, in Mexico and China. Instead you can complete with them here! Because they probably vote Socialist!


On February 12 2016 12:18 xDaunt wrote:
Hillary looks like a giant banana tonight.


ahahaa.

I was curious, as well, as to that strange color.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 12 2016 03:20 GMT
#57950
Again Clinton taking credit for the Iran deal even though she came out against it, this is why people don't trust her.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 12 2016 03:21 GMT
#57951
On February 12 2016 12:17 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 12:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:54 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:49 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JamesFTInternet/status/697972822346330113


Those reforms were made as a compromise with the Republican Congress and with the support of many, many black community leaders. It was a failed experiment where people failed to predict the consequences, but not one where racism or there was intention to do harm. I highly doubt Hillary (or anyone else for that matter) knew that mandatory minimum were going to disproportionately impact minorities.


Your apologism is sickening. Everyone knows that black elites are on the same neoliberal bandwagon that white elites are. Combating racism for many black folks is simply combating discrepancies in relative participation in the upper middle class between races, while ignoring bigger picture issues about the size and situation of lower and middle class people generally. Whether or not they "knew" that it would impact minorities disproportionately is completely irrelevant.


If you haven't noticed, I've decided generally not to respond to you anymore. But since this is a live debate thread, I'll bite.

I'm providing context, and since it seems I have to state it outright, let me do so: the outcome fucking sucked.

However if you do something with the best of intentions but it has unintended and unexpected consequences you're an awful human being? Yes, it's your fault, but it doesn't mean you're an awful human being. It means you made a mistake. You have to acknowledge that (Hillary has acknowledged it's a mistake, though I wish she'd acknowledged it's one of hers) and try and fix it (which she will).


She either didn't make it with the best of intentions, or, if she did, she's an idiot who shouldn't be in office.


Does that apply to everyone who voted for it?


^This is such a piss poor political hip toss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTn3jUoMdVI

As if you wouldn't be sticking him for voting against an assault weapon ban had he voted against it.


How so?

And no. To me there's a clear difference. There's a huge body of research out there showing guns cause all sorts of problems, People had no idea that mandatory minimums and the sort of things in welfare reform would have such unintended consequences.


"Everyone who voted for the bill", implicating Sanders, as if the part of the bill he supported was the perverse "superpredator", "come to heel" she was espousing as if we don't have video of each of their arguments.

You know there was a ban in the legislation. It's sleazy.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 12 2016 03:21 GMT
#57952
On February 12 2016 12:18 xDaunt wrote:
Hillary looks like a giant banana tonight.


I thought she'd finally started wearing normal clothes, but it looks like the crazy colors and styles are back.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 12 2016 03:22 GMT
#57953
On February 12 2016 12:17 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 12:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:54 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:49 IgnE wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
On February 12 2016 11:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/JamesFTInternet/status/697972822346330113


Those reforms were made as a compromise with the Republican Congress and with the support of many, many black community leaders. It was a failed experiment where people failed to predict the consequences, but not one where racism or there was intention to do harm. I highly doubt Hillary (or anyone else for that matter) knew that mandatory minimum were going to disproportionately impact minorities.


Your apologism is sickening. Everyone knows that black elites are on the same neoliberal bandwagon that white elites are. Combating racism for many black folks is simply combating discrepancies in relative participation in the upper middle class between races, while ignoring bigger picture issues about the size and situation of lower and middle class people generally. Whether or not they "knew" that it would impact minorities disproportionately is completely irrelevant.


If you haven't noticed, I've decided generally not to respond to you anymore. But since this is a live debate thread, I'll bite.

I'm providing context, and since it seems I have to state it outright, let me do so: the outcome fucking sucked.

However if you do something with the best of intentions but it has unintended and unexpected consequences you're an awful human being? Yes, it's your fault, but it doesn't mean you're an awful human being. It means you made a mistake. You have to acknowledge that (Hillary has acknowledged it's a mistake, though I wish she'd acknowledged it's one of hers) and try and fix it (which she will).


She either didn't make it with the best of intentions, or, if she did, she's an idiot who shouldn't be in office.


Does that apply to everyone who voted for it?


^This is such a piss poor political hip toss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTn3jUoMdVI

As if you wouldn't be sticking him for voting against an assault weapon ban had he voted against it.


How so?

And no. To me there's a difference: there's a huge body of research out there showing guns cause all sorts of problems, people had no idea that mandatory minimums and the sort of things in welfare reform would have such unintended consequences.


Are you kidding? Nobody knew? There's literally hundreds of years of politico-economic debate that could and did predict the consequences.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 12 2016 03:25 GMT
#57954
On February 12 2016 12:21 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 12:18 xDaunt wrote:
Hillary looks like a giant banana tonight.


I thought she'd finally started wearing normal clothes, but it looks like the crazy colors and styles are back.


Come on you know that was troll bait to try to get "Bernie Bros" to make comments like xDaunt as if it's not an objectively horrible fashion choice.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 12 2016 03:25 GMT
#57955
Hillary is such a fucking fraud on this foreign policy stuff. I don't know what to dislike more about her on this issue: the fact that she talks out of both sides of her mouth or the fact that she was such a demonstrable failure as secretary of state.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 12 2016 03:26 GMT
#57956
How is "Yes, let's go after Bin Laden" a hard decision for a politician?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23580 Posts
February 12 2016 03:27 GMT
#57957
"Well it ain't Henry Kissinger, that's for sure!" roflmao
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
February 12 2016 03:28 GMT
#57958
Yeah not going to vote for Hillary after tonight.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 12 2016 03:28 GMT
#57959
On February 12 2016 12:25 xDaunt wrote:
Hillary is such a fucking fraud on this foreign policy stuff. I don't know what to dislike more about her on this issue: the fact that she talks out of both sides of her mouth or the fact that she was such a demonstrable failure as secretary of state.

Bernie seems to be pretty inexperienced with foreign policy. Hillary has been proven to be quite destructive and I have little support for the foreign policies that she has supported.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 12 2016 03:28 GMT
#57960
Lmao he bodied Henry Kissinger from the grave
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