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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 12 2016 03:54 GMT
#57981
On February 12 2016 12:52 IgnE wrote:
Typical Clinton identity politics bullshit.

Yeah, I was just about to make a post about devising a drinking game for whenever Clinton uses identity politics.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
February 12 2016 03:54 GMT
#57982
damn i tuned in late. anyone able to give a tl:dr?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44317 Posts
February 12 2016 03:55 GMT
#57983
Is it over?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 12 2016 03:55 GMT
#57984
On February 12 2016 12:49 GreenHorizons wrote:
"One of us ran against Obama and it wasn't me" Wrekt


BOOM
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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
February 12 2016 03:56 GMT
#57985
I think this was Bernie's strongest debate performance yet. The way he switched the foreign policy topic to Henry Kissinger, masking his biggest weakness, was clever. Though to be honest I think Bernie's foreign policy stances are fine, he's just missing *something*.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 12 2016 03:56 GMT
#57986
CNN is going out of its way to boost Clinton post-debate. It's pretty clear to me that Bernie had the best lines tonight.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23222 Posts
February 12 2016 03:56 GMT
#57987
Anyone who needs to know Hillary's campaign is in full meltdown, just look at how close she is tying herself to Obama, her plan was to run down the middle.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 04:03:00
February 12 2016 03:59 GMT
#57988
Hillary did pretty good IMO, she's figuring out angles that work.

The "ran against him line" was dumb. Come on, she ran against him for president when he was a senator, not when he was an incumbent.

Sanders has improved somewhat on foreign policy which is good. Apart from that, I remain unimpressed with his platform.

I think in a couple debates where the candidates really grow into their own it's going to be really great debating.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 12 2016 04:00 GMT
#57989
I like Bernie's willingness to not distance himself from Obama or the last eight years. Its nice to hear a candidate not try to run from everything their focus groups says people don't like. Its nice to hear candidate trying to apologize for government and be proud of their accomplishments.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 12 2016 04:01 GMT
#57990
Hillary did OK outside of the Barack Obama fawning, and the Wall St. donations stuff that will always plague her.

On the other hand, I thought Bernie shined from about 20 minutes in till the end. Really think it was by FAR his best debate, and made me even more excited for his candidacy. I know i'm biased, but I recognized that his early performances weren't great... this was.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23222 Posts
February 12 2016 04:03 GMT
#57991
On February 12 2016 12:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
Hillary did pretty good IMO, she's figuring out angles that work.

The "ran against him line" was dumb. Come on, she ran against him for president when he was a senator, not when he was an incumbent.

Sanders has improved somewhat on foreign policy which is good. Apart from that, I remain unimpressed with his platform.


You notice the Hillary camp is already trying to downplay Nevada, claiming it's 80% white (it's not)?

Good reason they haven't polled there either. Basically, Hillary's claims in Nevada was mostly bluster. It's generational like the rest of her support.

It's going to be close which is not what Hillary needs.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 12 2016 04:08 GMT
#57992
On February 12 2016 13:03 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 12:59 ticklishmusic wrote:
Hillary did pretty good IMO, she's figuring out angles that work.

The "ran against him line" was dumb. Come on, she ran against him for president when he was a senator, not when he was an incumbent.

Sanders has improved somewhat on foreign policy which is good. Apart from that, I remain unimpressed with his platform.


You notice the Hillary camp is already trying to downplay Nevada, claiming it's 80% white (it's not)?

Good reason they haven't polled there either. Basically, Hillary's claims in Nevada was mostly bluster. It's generational like the rest of her support.

It's going to be close which is not what Hillary needs.


*shrug* your interpretation

different tune from a couple days ago when you seemed convinced bernie would sweep NV and SC
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 12 2016 04:11 GMT
#57993
"your interpretation...?"

Downplaying expectations is classic politics when you're ahead. It's quite clear what Clinton's campaign is trying to do
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 12 2016 04:17 GMT
#57994
Totally.

GH was commenting on "Nevada is gonna be close so Hillary is downplaying it". Maybe I assumed wrongly what he meant, if so my bad.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 12 2016 04:20 GMT
#57995
Well, idk how close it will be-- but why would the Clinton campaign downplay expectations if they weren't expecting a somewhat close result? Bernie has a LOT of paid staff in NV. I'm actually quite interested to see how it will play out.

The 20th is my birthday, so maybe i'll get a nice surprise
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 12 2016 04:35 GMT
#57996
Always better to downplay, then be like "wow we did better than expected". Doesn't matter if you're winning or losing.

I wish you the best of cakedays, but as a bit of good natured ribbing I will say it's too bad you're only 20 because you won't be able to (legally) drink to Hillary's victory.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 12 2016 04:41 GMT
#57997
No i'm actually gonna be 21, so i can drink to Bernie's impending communist revolution
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42667 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 05:04:48
February 12 2016 04:49 GMT
#57998
I'm ten pages late because I was out hiking today instead of shitposting in this topic at work but Common Core maths is exactly how maths work in my head. It makes much more sense to teach people how to break up and manipulate numbers so that any numbers, be them decimals, fractions, negatives etc work just as easily as >0 <100 integers. Times tables are a memory exercise and a useful tool but extremely limited in scope. Being able to recite that 12x12 is 144 is all well and good but being able to instantly break 13x13 into 13x10 + 10x3 + 3x3 is way more useful. Also while 10x3 is the same as 3x10 in this case the order matters, not in terms of creating the right answer but in terms of understanding the manipulation. The 13 on the right is broken down into 10 and 3 to give us 13x10 and 13x3 and then the 13 on the left is broken down in the same way to turn the 13x3 into 10x3 and 3x3. When you're juggling numbers in your head location matters.

That's the kind of maths people should learn. A calculator can solve the problem, teach the kids to understand the problem.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 04:55:12
February 12 2016 04:54 GMT
#57999
I disagree with Bernie on damned near everything, but I genuinely respect the man for being so damned honest about his positions and beliefs. It's incredibly refreshing, and it stands in stark contrast to Hillary, who is the embodiment of political duplicity. Frankly, I suspect that she would be better served standing her ground on her more moderate platform instead of faux-chasing Bernie down the far left rabbit hole. It's not like she's going to be fooling any Bernie supporters into thinking that she's like him. People know what the score is.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-12 05:10:38
February 12 2016 05:01 GMT
#58000
On February 12 2016 13:41 darthfoley wrote:
No i'm actually gonna be 21, so i can drink to Bernie's impending communist revolution


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On February 12 2016 13:49 KwarK wrote:
I'm ten pages late because I was out hiking today instead of shitposting in this topic at work but Common Core maths is exactly how maths work in my head. It makes much more sense to teach people how to break up and manipulate numbers so that any numbers, be them decimals, fractions, negatives etc work just as easily as >0 <100 integers. Times tables are a memory exercise and a useful tool but extremely limited in scope. Being able to recite that 12x12 is 144 is all well and good but being able to instantly break 13x13 into 13x10 + 10x3 + 3x3 is way more useful.

That's the kind of maths people should learn. A calculator can solve the problem, teach the kids to understand the problem.



this is how chinese people learn maths. it was my secret weapon and was better than a calculator.
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