EPTOn October 29 2015 08:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
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Carson is going to make his opening statement a prayer is +250, and Jeb wearing a nightcap is -110.
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cLutZ
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Carson is going to make his opening statement a prayer is +250, and Jeb wearing a nightcap is -110. | ||
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notesfromunderground
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:35 notesfromunderground wrote: It would just be nice if they threw in an education along with that B.S. in engineering What do you mean by that? I feel like Carson is going to self-implode in a magnificent ball of conservative flames. | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:35 ticklishmusic wrote: What do you mean by that? I feel like Carson is going to self-implode in a magnificent ball of conservative flames. Given his usual energy level, maybe smolder like a firepit log into dust is more appropriate? | ||
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notesfromunderground
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I mean that job training is not the purpose of a college education. If that's the case, then I'm for the radical free market option - we should abolish public education and make companies pay to train their own employees. The purpose of education is to help realize human flourishing and create good citizens. It has nothing to do with employment. STEM majors are receiving very little education - they are being trained. That's why we are a country overflowing with illiterates who hold bachelor's degrees. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:41 notesfromunderground wrote: I mean that job training is not the purpose of a college education. If that's the case, then I'm for the radical free market option - we should abolish public education and make companies pay to train their own employees. The purpose of education is to help realize human flourishing and create good citizens. It has nothing to do with employment. STEM majors are receiving very little education - they are being trained. That's why we are a country overflowing with illiterates who hold bachelor's degrees. That's an incredibly narrow and kind of derogatory way of looking at STEM majors. I believe that a college education should prepare you for adult life-- that includes both work and life. Being a responsible citizen includes being a productive member of society, which entails having a job. We can get into people who fall through the cracks despite X, Y and Z and the social safety net, but that's kind of a separate discussion. | ||
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notesfromunderground
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But don't feel too bad. You could be a business major. We are in delta minus territory with this species. Also, it's not personal. I think this is a violence that is being perpetrated against you, not your failing. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:15 CannonsNCarriers wrote: Name any point in the history man, or any location, that has had a better climate for business than right now. Credit is cheaper than ever. Communication technologies are cheaper than ever. Wages are staying low. Workers are plentiful. Unions are a joke. International and national contracts are enforced in private courts without needing lawyers. Globalization means your supply chain can some from anywhere. The Dollar's dominance means you can connect with any country as required. Commodities are even cheap. For proof, see the stock market and corporate profits and the rise of the ultra billionaire class. Growth is low because people can't afford what they produce (the great moderation of the Reagan era until now was fueled by private sector credit growth that covered the gap between wages earned and spending). Business doesn't need to be made more comfortable than it is. The consumer needs more money to buy more of what he produces. In this environment redistribution can help (whereas in the past when wages were rising it wouldn't have such great effects). you are reading pro business in place of growth. former is an interest group that notably excludes potential competitors, latter is more people doing more viable endeavors. ive stated that tackling monopoly and lowering barrier to entry can create the right sort of growth. cutting down these rent generating opportunities foster growth but are not business friendly per se. yes credit is plentiful but there is also a notable lack of real business investment. my mainpoint is that the left should take advantage of this space and declare a pro growth stance that can generate broad based economy with more jobs | ||
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frazzle
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notesfromunderground
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:41 notesfromunderground wrote: i agree with all this and also mandatory employment for philosophy phds. no metaphysicians thoI mean that job training is not the purpose of a college education. If that's the case, then I'm for the radical free market option - we should abolish public education and make companies pay to train their own employees. The purpose of education is to help realize human flourishing and create good citizens. It has nothing to do with employment. STEM majors are receiving very little education - they are being trained. That's why we are a country overflowing with illiterates who hold bachelor's degrees. On October 29 2015 08:47 notesfromunderground wrote: Why do you think that there is a lack of real business investment despite easy money? tyranny of scale from globalization and financialization, barrier of entry in various sectors resulting from either monopoly of scale or from legal barriers(patent), management culture of extreme detachment from anything other than future dividends stream, technology ceiling is in there somewhat, and relative availability of growth opportunities on global level. in the short term, demand is shit but we know that already | ||
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notesfromunderground
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On October 29 2015 08:52 oneofthem wrote: i agree with all this and also mandatory employment for philosophy phds. no metaphysicians tho HAHAHAHA i'm glad we can find some point of commonality | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:41 notesfromunderground wrote: I mean that job training is not the purpose of a college education. If that's the case, then I'm for the radical free market option - we should abolish public education and make companies pay to train their own employees. The purpose of education is to help realize human flourishing and create good citizens. It has nothing to do with employment. STEM majors are receiving very little education - they are being trained. That's why we are a country overflowing with illiterates who hold bachelor's degrees. How iare STEM degrees not being aimed at creating "good citizens" any different from other degrees? How does a business degree, art degree, foreign language, etc lead to someone being a "good citizen" that a mathematics, physics, medical, or engineering degree doesn't? | ||
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notesfromunderground
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On October 29 2015 08:53 Chewbacca. wrote: How is STEM degrees not being aimed at creating "good citizens" any different from other degrees? How does a business degree, art degree, foreign language, etc lead to someone being a "good citizen" that a mathematics, physics, medical, or engineering degree doesn't? Because they are not taught how to read books and think critically. I am a hard-core conservative when it comes to educational philosophy. There's only one way to get educated, and it involves starting with Plato, working forward, and then realizing that Plato was the wrong starting point. | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:52 notesfromunderground wrote: HAHAHAHA i'm glad we can find some point of commonality I have a BA in Philosophy and a concentrated study BA in French and Linguistics. FUCK YOU! | ||
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notesfromunderground
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On October 29 2015 08:59 frazzle wrote: I have a BA in Philosophy and a concentrated study BA in French and Linguistics. FUCK YOU! If I called you an illiterate I apologize. I hope you are keeping up with your studies <3 | ||
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frazzle
United States468 Posts
On October 29 2015 09:01 notesfromunderground wrote: If I called you an illiterate I apologize. I hope you are keeping up with your studies <3 :-D | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) made an impassioned case for his hawkish views on national defense and aggressively defended some of his more unorthodox GOP views Wednesday in a high energy showing in the undercard debate. Graham drew applause and some laughter in his freewheeling performance. CNBC host Carl Quintanilla noted that Graham believed climate change is real, pushed for immigration reform, and supported tax increases as part of the budget deal. Then, to laughter from the crowd, Quintanilla asked the senator: "Are you in the wrong party's debate?" "No, I think I'm trying to solve problems that somebody better solve. Now, you don't have to believe that climate change is real. I have been to the Antarctic. I've been to Alaska. I'm not a scientist and I've got the grades to prove it," Graham paused, to slight laughter. "But I've talked to the climatologists of the world and 90 percent of them are telling me that greenhouse gas effect is real." He addressed his thoughts on immigration. "I want to fix an immigration system," Graham said. "I'm not going to tell you if you like your doctor you can keep it. ... I'm tired of telling people things that they want to hear that we know we're not going to do." Graham said that he would secure the border so "we don't we'll get hurt," and that he wouldn't deport "11 million people and their legal citizen children," but that he would deport felons. "And those who stay will have to learn our language to stay. Because I don't speak it well but look how far I've come," Graham said. "At the end of the day, folks, I am trying to solve a problem and win an election. I am tired of losing. Good God, look who we're running against." "If we don't beat these people, who the hell are we going to beat? Let's solve problems," Graham ended, to applause and laughter. Source | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:59 frazzle wrote: I have a BA in Philosophy and a concentrated study BA in French and Linguistics. FUCK YOU! Its fine, people on the internet specialize in making fun of humanities degrees. Just start talking about women's studies and you get some real enlightenment(Note: You can make bank with a masters in women's studies, especially if you are willing to go abroad). | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 29 2015 08:55 notesfromunderground wrote: Because they are not taught how to read books and think critically. I am a hard-core conservative when it comes to educational philosophy. There's only one way to get educated, and it involves starting with Plato, working forward, and then realizing that Plato was the wrong starting point. Yea, you either haven't taken STEM classes, or haven't taken college classes at all, because going from STEM to philosophy or English or history classes is like having Kobayashi eat 12 hot dogs in a day when it comes to reading volume and critical thinking. | ||
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