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Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus says he thinks Donald Trump is a “net positive” for his party.
During a TV interview on WISN’s “Upfront” this weekend in Milwaukee, Priebus, who has previously asked Trump to tone down his remarks on immigration, now says the “Trump show” is a good thing for the GOP.
“It brings a lot of interest in the Republican field. I think it’s a net positive for everybody and I think it’s an indicator that there’s a lot of folks out there who are sick and tired of Washington and Trump has tapped into that,” Priebus said. “When you have 30 million people watching [the first GOP debate], not to mention the fact that we have 16 other incredible candidates out there, I think we are showing America that we are the young, diverse party, offering a whole slew of options for people and that’s a good thing.”
The RNC chair said he would be comfortable with Trump being the Republican nominee and does not question his loyalties to the party, despite the real estate mogul’s previous support for liberal positions on issues like abortion and universal health care.
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On August 25 2015 02:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus says he thinks Donald Trump is a “net positive” for his party.
During a TV interview on WISN’s “Upfront” this weekend in Milwaukee, Priebus, who has previously asked Trump to tone down his remarks on immigration, now says the “Trump show” is a good thing for the GOP.
“It brings a lot of interest in the Republican field. I think it’s a net positive for everybody and I think it’s an indicator that there’s a lot of folks out there who are sick and tired of Washington and Trump has tapped into that,” Priebus said. “When you have 30 million people watching [the first GOP debate], not to mention the fact that we have 16 other incredible candidates out there, I think we are showing America that we are the young, diverse party, offering a whole slew of options for people and that’s a good thing.”
The RNC chair said he would be comfortable with Trump being the Republican nominee and does not question his loyalties to the party, despite the real estate mogul’s previous support for liberal positions on issues like abortion and universal health care. Source
30 million people watched because they wanted to see Trump explode or wreck the field. The extra viewership had nothing to do with their interest in the party. If he actually thinks this and is not just trying to spin he is delusional.
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On August 25 2015 02:56 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 02:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus says he thinks Donald Trump is a “net positive” for his party.
During a TV interview on WISN’s “Upfront” this weekend in Milwaukee, Priebus, who has previously asked Trump to tone down his remarks on immigration, now says the “Trump show” is a good thing for the GOP.
“It brings a lot of interest in the Republican field. I think it’s a net positive for everybody and I think it’s an indicator that there’s a lot of folks out there who are sick and tired of Washington and Trump has tapped into that,” Priebus said. “When you have 30 million people watching [the first GOP debate], not to mention the fact that we have 16 other incredible candidates out there, I think we are showing America that we are the young, diverse party, offering a whole slew of options for people and that’s a good thing.”
The RNC chair said he would be comfortable with Trump being the Republican nominee and does not question his loyalties to the party, despite the real estate mogul’s previous support for liberal positions on issues like abortion and universal health care. Source 30 million people watched because they wanted to see Trump explode or wreck the field. The extra viewership had nothing to do with their interest in the party. If he actually thinks this and is not just trying to spin he is delusional.
Its half the fun of the early election cycle. The clown show early on is amazing and Trump is delivering. But it is a net loss for the GOP in almost every way. They can literally say nothing right now because Trump is just eating up the spotlight like a blackhole with a hair piece.
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On August 25 2015 02:56 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 02:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus says he thinks Donald Trump is a “net positive” for his party.
During a TV interview on WISN’s “Upfront” this weekend in Milwaukee, Priebus, who has previously asked Trump to tone down his remarks on immigration, now says the “Trump show” is a good thing for the GOP.
“It brings a lot of interest in the Republican field. I think it’s a net positive for everybody and I think it’s an indicator that there’s a lot of folks out there who are sick and tired of Washington and Trump has tapped into that,” Priebus said. “When you have 30 million people watching [the first GOP debate], not to mention the fact that we have 16 other incredible candidates out there, I think we are showing America that we are the young, diverse party, offering a whole slew of options for people and that’s a good thing.”
The RNC chair said he would be comfortable with Trump being the Republican nominee and does not question his loyalties to the party, despite the real estate mogul’s previous support for liberal positions on issues like abortion and universal health care. Source 30 million people watched because they wanted to see Trump explode or wreck the field. The extra viewership had nothing to do with their interest in the party. If he actually thinks this and is not just trying to spin he is delusional.
You do realize its literally his job to spin to win right? You're not an RNC chair if you not totally in the bag for republicans.
In other news cnn is reporting ( + Show Spoiler +http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/hillary-clinton-aides-phones-destroyed/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-emails-intelligence-concerns-2011/index.html
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Those 4 emails better have launch codes on them after this clown show. And we will see if the Justice Department decides to pull the trigger on those 4 emails. But it could be equally likely that they are going through the motions because some folks really want them to find something that isn't there.
And government data security has always been a joke. The White House was a nightmare when Obama took office. Computers outdated by almost decades. Government workers have had to use their personal laptops because their "secure government PCs" can't run the software they need to do the job. I don't think it fully applies for the Clintion issue, but one of the main problems government security is that they don't update their hardware.
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Anand another press conference goes off the rails for Jeb Bush. The term anchor babies means Asians... I mean really?
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You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide.
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On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide.
If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.
This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with.
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On August 25 2015 03:18 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 02:56 Gorsameth wrote:On August 25 2015 02:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Republican National Committee Chair Reince Priebus says he thinks Donald Trump is a “net positive” for his party.
During a TV interview on WISN’s “Upfront” this weekend in Milwaukee, Priebus, who has previously asked Trump to tone down his remarks on immigration, now says the “Trump show” is a good thing for the GOP.
“It brings a lot of interest in the Republican field. I think it’s a net positive for everybody and I think it’s an indicator that there’s a lot of folks out there who are sick and tired of Washington and Trump has tapped into that,” Priebus said. “When you have 30 million people watching [the first GOP debate], not to mention the fact that we have 16 other incredible candidates out there, I think we are showing America that we are the young, diverse party, offering a whole slew of options for people and that’s a good thing.”
The RNC chair said he would be comfortable with Trump being the Republican nominee and does not question his loyalties to the party, despite the real estate mogul’s previous support for liberal positions on issues like abortion and universal health care. Source 30 million people watched because they wanted to see Trump explode or wreck the field. The extra viewership had nothing to do with their interest in the party. If he actually thinks this and is not just trying to spin he is delusional. You do realize its literally his job to spin to win right? You're not an RNC chair if you not totally in the bag for republicans. In other news cnn is reporting ( + Show Spoiler +http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/hillary-clinton-aides-phones-destroyed/index.html ) that two of Hillary's aids had government issued phones but now they can't be located and the data on them was formatted due to being turned in after they outdated. just so that no ones unaware this is just a case of bad practices instead of incompetence. The fox report on clintons email's having classified info is pretty shaky ( + Show Spoiler +http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/19/politics/hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-emails-intelligence-concerns-2011/index.html ) But aparently the inspector general has 4 other emails that it cited when it requested a full investigation which might mean that there is a smoking gun out there.
I think it's pretty clear that the authorities have at least something on Clinton already. There's no way that this is just a gigantic fishing expedition. A judge wouldn't allow it.
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Trump would have reason to be scared if all the other republic were not complete idiots. Fortunately for Trump they make him look like a genius.
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On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with.
People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them.
I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people".
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On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables. This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with.
Fewer or less syllables? The way African American replaced Black man and Nigger?
You're talking out your ass. You can use a term with more syllables if the original term is offensive. And yes, I think Anchor baby is offensive.
EDIT: to clarify, it is offensive, because it implies that the baby was born in order to "anchor" the parents in the US, which is a ridiculous assumption, and paints a large amount of people with a loaded statement.
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On August 25 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with. People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them. I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people".
Ok lets call serial killers and child molesters people becuase the terms killer and molester are derogatory towards people of certain socioeconomic status. They still deserve to be treated with equal rights even if they broke the law because we can judge and how dare us for doing so.
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On August 25 2015 06:29 whatisthisasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote:On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with. People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them. I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people". Ok lets call serial killers and child molesters people becuase I think the teams killer and molester are derogatory towards people of certain socioeconomic status and they deserve to be treated with equal rights.
Nice straw man!
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On August 25 2015 06:31 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 06:29 whatisthisasheep wrote:On August 25 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote:On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with. People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them. I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people". Ok lets call serial killers and child molesters people becuase I think the teams killer and molester are derogatory towards people of certain socioeconomic status and they deserve to be treated with equal rights. Nice straw man!
Or straw woman. No need to be a misogynistic sexist.
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On August 25 2015 06:29 whatisthisasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote:On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with. People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them. I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people". Ok lets call serial killers and child molesters people becuase the terms killer and molester are derogatory towards people of certain socioeconomic status. They still deserve to be treated with equal rights even if they broke the law because we can judge and how dare we for doing so.
This is a totally on point argument that doesn't have numerous holes in it. No false equivalency at all. Of course the children of illegal immigrates and exactly the same thing as criminals and child molesters. Those are two groups of people we can compare on a 1-1 basis and find lots in common. Totally the same.
Stick mindlessly hyping Trump.
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On August 25 2015 06:34 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 06:29 whatisthisasheep wrote:On August 25 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote:On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with. People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them. I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people". Ok lets call serial killers and child molesters people becuase the terms killer and molester are derogatory towards people of certain socioeconomic status. They still deserve to be treated with equal rights even if they broke the law because we can judge and how dare we for doing so. This is a totally on point argument that doesn't have numerous holes in it. No false equivalency at all. Of course the children of illegal immigrates and exactly the same thing as criminals and child molesters. Those are two groups of people we can compare on a 1-1 basis and find lots in common. Totally the same. Stick mindlessly hyping Trump.
We all know that children of illegal immigrants grow up to be hard working people trying to provide for families. They put a heavy emphasis on furthering their education and ingratiating themselves into society. They have a proven track record of successfully reliving themselves of their old bad habits and refining them into useful tools that give them a competitive advantage in today's competitive workplace environment.
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I understand with the sentiment that no one should be discriminated against for reasons XYZ, and I think the argument has some validity, but I do have to wonder... is it really so important that Big Earl's Diner not refuse service a gay couple? Yes, it's rude, yes it's petty and mean, yes it's silly and outdated... but do we really need to go blast some diner in the middle of nowhere on national television? Does the Federal Government really need to go make sure that Big Earl isn't discriminating against whoever?
I just feel like if I was refused service somewhere for whatever reason, I would just leave and find somewhere else to eat. I could understand if we're talking about a grocery store or a gas-station, but why a diner? IDK, just seems like it's reverse bullying.
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On August 25 2015 06:42 whatisthisasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 06:34 Plansix wrote:On August 25 2015 06:29 whatisthisasheep wrote:On August 25 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote:On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with. People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them. I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people". Ok lets call serial killers and child molesters people becuase the terms killer and molester are derogatory towards people of certain socioeconomic status. They still deserve to be treated with equal rights even if they broke the law because we can judge and how dare we for doing so. This is a totally on point argument that doesn't have numerous holes in it. No false equivalency at all. Of course the children of illegal immigrates and exactly the same thing as criminals and child molesters. Those are two groups of people we can compare on a 1-1 basis and find lots in common. Totally the same. Stick mindlessly hyping Trump. We all know that children of illegal immigrants grow up to be hard working people trying to provide for families. They put a heavy emphasis or furthering their education and ingratiating themselves into society. They have a proven track record of successfully reliving themselves of their old bad habits and refining them into useful tools that give them a competitive advantage in today's competitive workplace environment.
Statistics or gtfo
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On August 25 2015 06:29 whatisthisasheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2015 06:22 Plansix wrote:On August 25 2015 05:44 cLutZ wrote:On August 25 2015 05:05 Plansix wrote:
You dig deep enough with that term an anchor babies means my grandfather whose mother was from Sweden. She wasn’t a full citizen when she had him and might have been here illegally. But keep using it GOP and telling people it’s not offensive. Because that is totally something you get to decide. If you want to call a descriptive term offensive you need to provide a plausible alternative that is as descriptive and uses the same or fewer syllables.This all just goes back to the old PC debate where its pretty obvious that the term isn't the problem, its that you don't want people to be able to easily convey ideas you disagree with. People. Children of illegal immigrants. Pick one of those or maybe ask. There are a lot of words in the English language, break out a few. The people running for office are supposed to be educated. I am sure they can figure it out. Its an outreach program. To get the votes of the minorities, the Republic candidates must learn to speak in a way that does not insult them or their children them. I really need to reinstall that script that changes "PC" to "respecting other people". Ok lets call serial killers and child molesters people becuase the terms killer and molester are derogatory towards people of certain socioeconomic status. They still deserve to be treated with equal rights even if they broke the law because we can judge and how dare us for doing so.
TIL that you can file "serial killer" under a socioeconomic category. Who knew? It is also at the core of our Constitution that criminals are granted plenty of the same rights as law-abiding citizens. They are called human rights for a reason, not non-criminal rights.
Also, equating desperate families looking to better themselves to serial killers is a new low. Mind walking me through how that comparison holds up? I am all for getting immigration under control, but am under no illusions as to who exactly we would be deporting and keeping out: for every violent criminal Breitbart likes to crow about, there will be dozens of families who were just trying to better their situation, and I can't really blame them for that.
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