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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 15:28:26
August 14 2015 15:27 GMT
#43961
On August 15 2015 00:16 Plansix wrote:
Also there is only so far “ahead” students of a specific age bracket can get. Development of critical thinking and other basic cognitive skills cannot be obtained faster through more time at school. There would need to be tons of testing done and it would greatly depend on how the summer classes would work.


It's more about how much knowledge is retained/ lost, rather than students obtaining knowledge faster. If you're doing work for 12 straight days and I'm only doing work for 10 days, I'm gradually losing 2 days worth of work, and so you'll keep progressing steadily while I step forward at a slower pace.

(The same is obviously true for months, rather than days.)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45360 Posts
August 14 2015 15:32 GMT
#43962
On August 14 2015 23:49 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2015 23:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 14 2015 18:38 Laurens wrote:
I'd rather fall behind and have the 3 months tbh.


From a student's perspective or a teacher's perspective?

It's certainly an interesting issue that is talked about but probably won't ever be changed. If we took our 3 months of summer vacation and just split up those days and had extended breaks throughout the entire year, students would probably be more likely to retain information from year to year.

That's the way it worked in Holland. 6 weeks of summer vacation, 2 weeks over Christmas, and 3 1-week holidays and some random days scattered around the year.


Yeah. The longer the stretch of time where students aren't doing anything academic, the more we see an increase in the achievement gap. It doesn't even have to be formal schooling per se; students could be practicing on their own time, studying, tutoring, etc.

"And none of the reasons for creating the current school calendar related to student achievement. “The conversations that we’re having today about creating a context for academic achievement just weren’t there.”

But today, researchers are considering that exact question.

Long summer breaks have been shown to cause children, especially lower-income children, to lose ground academically. It’s a phenomenon known as “summer slide,” where students return to school in the fall having lost a full month of learning, on average.

Researchers have studied enriching summer programs, summer school, and even year-round school to combat this summer learning loss. One school district in West Virginia has had a year-round calendar for more than two decades. Watch the video below to learn more."

~ http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/debunking-myth-summer-vacation/
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
August 14 2015 15:42 GMT
#43963
A better reinforcement system; even just some mild scattered lessons over summer break, would do a lot to help retention. It doesn't take much to refresh stuff and keep it from draining out of memory.

It'd still be better to just ditch summer vacation though, and spread the days out. If you ditched summer vacation entirely, you could have 3 day weekends all the time sadly that wouldn't be a viable plan since that'd mess with people's child-care/watching plans.

Of course there's the large practical expense: a lot of schools would need to be refitted to operate in the summer; many have no A/C, and the buildings tend to trap heat a lot as is, they were never meant to be full in the summer so they're just not setup for it.
Overall expense probably wouldn't be too bad, but money's always tight with schools.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11779 Posts
August 14 2015 15:43 GMT
#43964
So, do US schools only have one very long summer break and no other vacation times? Or multiple breaks split up over the year, with the longest one in summer?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45360 Posts
August 14 2015 16:00 GMT
#43965
On August 15 2015 00:43 Simberto wrote:
So, do US schools only have one very long summer break and no other vacation times? Or multiple breaks split up over the year, with the longest one in summer?


We have a few week-long breaks typically, throughout the school year. These include winter/ Christmas breaks, spring break, etc. We also have a few "long weekends", like having Thursday/ Friday off for holidays like Thanksgiving. We also have about 2.5-3 months of straight summer, from around June to late August/ early September. Public schools usually require around 180 days of school.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 16:12:49
August 14 2015 16:07 GMT
#43966
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 14 2015 16:10 GMT
#43967
On August 15 2015 00:18 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2015 23:55 whatisthisasheep wrote:
in 10 years going to a university campus to learn from a professor will be like going to the record store to buy a cd. Everything is online.


You can come back and mock me in 10 years, but I'm calling bullshit. Whilst some courses are easy enough and it doesn't make a big difference whether you follow online or not, the benefit of physically going to your place of education shouldn't be underestimated. I have followed 2 UCSF courses online and whilst it wasn't an issue I could tell I learned much more by being there in person.

EDIT: Silly phone and my fat thumbs...

You are going to be right, but 50%+ of the reason is that sheep is betting on a cartel willfully ceding power.
Freeeeeeedom
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
August 14 2015 16:12 GMT
#43968
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Show nested quote +
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”


Beautiful. Anyone trying to say this is a coincidence is disillusion. Can't stop the trump.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45360 Posts
August 14 2015 16:14 GMT
#43969
On August 15 2015 01:12 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”


Beautiful. Anyone trying to say this is a coincidence is disillusion. Can't stop the trump.


It's definitely not a coincidence, but it's also ridiculous.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 14 2015 16:15 GMT
#43970
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Show nested quote +
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Hah. She deserves the shit that she's getting for the cheap shot questions that she asked. Like I said before, all you have to do to torpedo Trump is to ask him real policy questions. He'll probably sink himself with his answers (or lack thereof).
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2015 16:16 GMT
#43971
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Show nested quote +
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Nice, a political candidate’s supporters have harassed a news network reporter off the air for asking questions of the candidate. What a great guy and his hardcore supporters must be great people. Trump is human garbage and his supporters are a blight on the political system.
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
August 14 2015 16:26 GMT
#43972
On August 15 2015 01:16 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Nice, a political candidate’s supporters have harassed a news network reporter off the air for asking questions of the candidate. What a great guy and his hardcore supporters must be great people. Trump is human garbage and his supporters are a blight on the political system.

You must have blood coming out of your...whereever!
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45360 Posts
August 14 2015 16:36 GMT
#43973
On August 15 2015 00:42 zlefin wrote:
A better reinforcement system; even just some mild scattered lessons over summer break, would do a lot to help retention. It doesn't take much to refresh stuff and keep it from draining out of memory.

It'd still be better to just ditch summer vacation though, and spread the days out. If you ditched summer vacation entirely, you could have 3 day weekends all the time sadly that wouldn't be a viable plan since that'd mess with people's child-care/watching plans.

Of course there's the large practical expense: a lot of schools would need to be refitted to operate in the summer; many have no A/C, and the buildings tend to trap heat a lot as is, they were never meant to be full in the summer so they're just not setup for it.
Overall expense probably wouldn't be too bad, but money's always tight with schools.


Yeah I agree. Many schools need to make sure they have the infrastructure (like A/C) so that schools in the summer could even occur.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
August 14 2015 16:40 GMT
#43974
On August 15 2015 01:15 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Hah. She deserves the shit that she's getting for the cheap shot questions that she asked. Like I said before, all you have to do to torpedo Trump is to ask him real policy questions. He'll probably sink himself with his answers (or lack thereof).


Trump has no incentive to give direct answers. He is way ahead in polls and only has something to lose. Clinton is laying low because she only has something to lose by being 4x ahead of Sanders. This has always been the case. When you're ahead, you just keep on being ahead. Trump has no incentive to open himself up for attack by giving silly bullshit answers (Like Huckabee's 6% nonsense). The promises/platform or whatever you want to call it of a candidate this early in the race is purely for the sake of building hype and distinguishing themselves. But it always comes at a cost. Trump being Trump is good enough. Describing a bunch of policy changes would be detrimental to his campaign. You are criticizing him for being safe.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2015 16:45 GMT
#43975
On August 15 2015 01:40 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:15 xDaunt wrote:
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Hah. She deserves the shit that she's getting for the cheap shot questions that she asked. Like I said before, all you have to do to torpedo Trump is to ask him real policy questions. He'll probably sink himself with his answers (or lack thereof).


Trump has no incentive to give direct answers. He is way ahead in polls and only has something to lose. Clinton is laying low because she only has something to lose by being 4x ahead of Sanders. This has always been the case. When you're ahead, you just keep on being ahead. Trump has no incentive to open himself up for attack by giving silly bullshit answers (Like Huckabee's 6% nonsense). The promises/platform or whatever you want to call it of a candidate this early in the race is purely for the sake of building hype and distinguishing themselves. But it always comes at a cost. Trump being Trump is good enough. Describing a bunch of policy changes would be detrimental to his campaign. You are criticizing him for being safe.

Or being a terrible candidate and having literally no idea how to run the country or do anything beyond stroke his own ego. People are criticizing him because his is human garbage and only appeals to the far right wing nutjobs the Republican injected into the primary season the last two congressional elections. The ongoing legacy of the tea-party.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 14 2015 16:48 GMT
#43976
On August 15 2015 01:40 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:15 xDaunt wrote:
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Hah. She deserves the shit that she's getting for the cheap shot questions that she asked. Like I said before, all you have to do to torpedo Trump is to ask him real policy questions. He'll probably sink himself with his answers (or lack thereof).


Trump has no incentive to give direct answers. He is way ahead in polls and only has something to lose. Clinton is laying low because she only has something to lose by being 4x ahead of Sanders. This has always been the case. When you're ahead, you just keep on being ahead. Trump has no incentive to open himself up for attack by giving silly bullshit answers (Like Huckabee's 6% nonsense). The promises/platform or whatever you want to call it of a candidate this early in the race is purely for the sake of building hype and distinguishing themselves. But it always comes at a cost. Trump being Trump is good enough. Describing a bunch of policy changes would be detrimental to his campaign. You are criticizing him for being safe.

Why exactly do you think bullshit answers will carry Trump when they have never been able to carry other candidates in prior primaries (like Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich)? Again, the polls mean little more than dick right now.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 14 2015 16:53 GMT
#43977
Let’s not even dig into the fact that he will never win the general election. You need to win over groups like Hispanics, blacks and women to win that election. And independent voters who already don’t like him. Maybe if the Democrats nominate a roll of paper towels he might do well. But people might vote for a roll of Bounty lead over Trump.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
August 14 2015 17:00 GMT
#43978
On August 15 2015 01:48 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:40 Mohdoo wrote:
On August 15 2015 01:15 xDaunt wrote:
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Hah. She deserves the shit that she's getting for the cheap shot questions that she asked. Like I said before, all you have to do to torpedo Trump is to ask him real policy questions. He'll probably sink himself with his answers (or lack thereof).


Trump has no incentive to give direct answers. He is way ahead in polls and only has something to lose. Clinton is laying low because she only has something to lose by being 4x ahead of Sanders. This has always been the case. When you're ahead, you just keep on being ahead. Trump has no incentive to open himself up for attack by giving silly bullshit answers (Like Huckabee's 6% nonsense). The promises/platform or whatever you want to call it of a candidate this early in the race is purely for the sake of building hype and distinguishing themselves. But it always comes at a cost. Trump being Trump is good enough. Describing a bunch of policy changes would be detrimental to his campaign. You are criticizing him for being safe.

Why exactly do you think bullshit answers will carry Trump when they have never been able to carry other candidates in prior primaries (like Herman Cain or Newt Gingrich)? Again, the polls mean little more than dick right now.



I am saying that until Trump just being Trump stops keeping him on top of the polls, he has no incentive to revitalize his campaign with policy stories. Polls don't mean Trump will win, but they do legitimize campaigns in the eyes of the general masses. People who saw Sanders or Trump as a distant fantasy are committing more to their support of them by seeing their surge in poll numbers. I would not vote for Trump in a general election, but I do think that people are trying way too hard to write him off. I feel like Trump makes people so mad that they aren't willing to see that he's being successful beyond Cain or Gingrich. Society and the way elections are carried has changed a ton over the past 10 years. Everything is so connected at this point that hype starts early and people are generally more in the know. I don't see Trump being another Herman Cain at all.

If nothing else, Trump's insane ability with media and whatnot will be a huge issue for other candidates. He is managing to be a politician by being a really good performer. I suppose I just don't see what people are expecting to suddenly happen where Trump can't keep up. Even during a general election, we never see extreme specifics. Hiring an adviser or two to tell Trump what to say about policy would be more than enough to carry him through a primary. It has always been about rhetoric and posturing.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22145 Posts
August 14 2015 17:25 GMT
#43979
On August 15 2015 01:15 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Hah. She deserves the shit that she's getting for the cheap shot questions that she asked. Like I said before, all you have to do to torpedo Trump is to ask him real policy questions. He'll probably sink himself with his answers (or lack thereof).

I think it would be unfair to blame Kelly for the questions what it is likely the heads of Fox who told her to ask those questions in an attempt to sabotage Trump (that obviously failed)
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 14 2015 17:45 GMT
#43980
On August 15 2015 02:25 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 01:15 xDaunt wrote:
On August 15 2015 01:07 whatisthisasheep wrote:
Trump successfully ran Megan Kelley off the air.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/megyn-kelly-going-vacation-wake-025900141.html
Megyn Kelly has decided to go on an unplanned vacation.

]The Fox News correspondent, who faced criticism and controversy following her moderation of the GOP debate earlier this month, is going on vacation for the next 10 days.

Kelly announced the news on Wednesday’s The Kelly File, and Fox News later posted a message from the anchor on their website on Thursday explaining the reason for her temporary absence.

"It's been an interesting week. A long six months, without a vacation for yours truly, do you know that? It's been six months since I've had a vacation. Just ask my assistant," Kelly explained. "So I'll be taking the next week and a half off, spending some time with my husband and my kids, trying to relax."

The newscaster, who's been with Fox News full-time since 2010, said the hardest part of going on vacation is bound to be "is trying to put down the Electronica and unplug it."

"When you go on vacation, I am going to try to look at my little one's faces and go for bike rides and play at the beach and not look at you," Kelly added. "And when I see you back here on the 24th, we'll pick it all up again. Have a great week. See you soon."

Kelly has been facing a slew of aggressive hatred from Donald Trump supporters in the wake of the GOP debate due to what some felt were pointed and aggressive questions. Trump himself has also been railing against the anchor.

During the GOP primary debate, Kelly grilled Trump over past sexist comments towards women.

“You’ve called women you don’t like pigs, dogs, fat slobs and disgusting animals,” Kelly asked the presidential hopeful during the Aug. 6 telecast. “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” Trump responded, before Kelly listed several of Trump’s past targets, including a former Celebrity Apprentice contestant.

“Honestly Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although I could probably not be based on the way you’ve treated me,” Trump fired back.

The bad blood between the two doesn’t seem to be letting up anytime soon.

Days after the debate, Trump told CNN that he doesn’t “have a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly – she’s a lightweight,” he said. “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of wherever.”

Hah. She deserves the shit that she's getting for the cheap shot questions that she asked. Like I said before, all you have to do to torpedo Trump is to ask him real policy questions. He'll probably sink himself with his answers (or lack thereof).

I think it would be unfair to blame Kelly for the questions what it is likely the heads of Fox who told her to ask those questions in an attempt to sabotage Trump (that obviously failed)

Yes, the Fox execs certainly had a hand in this, but she and the moderators are still the ones who ultimately ask the questions. I'm not particularly keen on letting the moderators pass the buck.
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