EPTOn March 13 2015 08:50 farvacola wrote:
You didn't need to quote that to say that you like small government lol.
You didn't need to quote that to say that you like small government lol.
oh really, captain? thank you.
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lastpuritan
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oh really, captain? thank you. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
"wtf, of course there's no racism. Slavery ended a long time ago" "wtf, of course there's no racism. They can vote now." "wtf, of course there's no racism. Our president is black!" | ||
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Simberto
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On March 13 2015 07:33 Yurie wrote: So promoting cooperatives where the workers or customers own the company? Or the state owning the companies? Both variants are used successfully all over the world to various degrees. Nationalization of resources may be very beneficial or bad depending on the country. In Norway it's good because the government isn't run by a dictator and on the Arabian Peninsula it's really horrible. Common ownership of whole industries or economies is very rare today and definitely not successful. On March 13 2015 09:06 Simberto wrote: Well, to be honest, there is a lot less racism nowadays compared to in the 60s. And it appears to be trending downwards still. Which is good. If anything it's going up again since the early 2000's, especially Anti-Semitism in Europe. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:07 Nyxisto wrote: If anything it's going up again since the early 2000's, especially Anti-Semitism in Europe. Not to say you're wrong, but I think the focus was racism in the US | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23713 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:06 Simberto wrote: Well, to be honest, there is a lot less racism nowadays compared to in the 60s. And it appears to be trending downwards still. Which is good. I don't think anyone argues racism is the same as it was in the 60's or before. People certainly do argue that it's not really a problem though. Primarily the right. Plus racism has certainly had a spotlight shown on it since Obama took office. Whether that's from it actually going up or people just finally noticing whats been happening around them is unclear. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:12 Mohdoo wrote: Not to say you're wrong, but I think the focus was racism in the US Just from a foreigners perspective it still seems like a lot of stereotypes about black people are still pretty strong though, 50% of the internet reads like Stormfront when Ferguson comes up, and that's mostly young people I suppose. | ||
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lastpuritan
United States540 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:07 Nyxisto wrote: Nationalization of resources may be very beneficial or bad depending on the country. In Norway it's good because the government isn't run by a dictator and on the Arabian Peninsula it's really horrible. Common ownership of whole industries or economies is very rare today and definitely not successful. If anything it's going up again since the early 2000's, especially Anti-Semitism in Europe. with islamophobia. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23713 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:20 zlefin wrote: I hate the term islamophobia, because it's just plain wrong, down with the misuse of words! It's not always an accurate description, but sometimes it is. I don't even know what you call people beating up a sheikh because they thought he was a Muslim terrorist besides stupid, though? | ||
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hannahbelle
United States0 Posts
On March 13 2015 08:50 GreenHorizons wrote: You mean like this? Source Or this gem from Ann Coulter on Fox News, so of course it went unchallenged? Source There's more examples if you really need them? Did you even read the Coulter interview before posting that? It's clear from the interview what she is saying. You're selective quoting is not surprising, although disappointing. Some supporters of demonstrators in Ferguson, Missouri reacted to the shooting of two police officers by justifying or even celebrating the incident. Two cops were seriously injured when shots were fired during a rally outside the Ferguson Police Department just after midnight following the announcement that Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson planned to resign. “These police officers were standing there, and they were shot–just because they were police officers,” St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar told reporters. In video footage which captures the moments before and after the shooting, one protester is heard to say, “Acknowledgement nine months ago would have kept that from happening,” a reference to the death of Michael Brown. Further justification of the shooting emerged on Twitter, with some even expressing their satisfaction that the officers were targeted. One woman even suggested that the Ferguson Police Department shot their own officers in order to blame protesters. Journalist Rania Khalek tried to make the case that protesters were the target of the shooting, despite there being a significant distance between demonstrators and police. As we have exhaustively documented, the riots in Ferguson and the targeting of police officers only serves to discredit opposition to the genuine problem of police brutality. Source The article has some nice tweets as well. I would venture to say dealing with this scum all the time would make near anyone racist to some degree. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:17 Nyxisto wrote: Just from a foreigners perspective it still seems like a lot of stereotypes about black people are still pretty strong though, 50% of the internet reads like Stormfront when Ferguson comes up, and that's mostly young people I suppose. Half our country is composed of republicans. Just kinda how it goes unfortunately. Increased college enrollment has helped a lot, as studies show, but there's only so much you can do about the deep south. As we've seen recently with the whole frat fiasco. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
also, @hannahmontana, i read the coulter interview. i am curious how you interpret it, because i cringed. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23713 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:26 hannahbelle wrote: Did you even read the Coulter interview before posting that? It's clear from the interview what she is saying. You're selective quoting is not surprising, although disappointing. I did, I actually watched the whole thing. What is it that she said that I missed? Source The article has some nice tweets as well. I would venture to say dealing with this scum all the time would make near anyone racist to some degree. You could say the same thing about the citizens of Ferguson who have been dealing with a scumbag police force, clerks, and judges. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
COULTER: Well, as I wrote in Mugged, it was just about gone in this country and then the liberals, they, needed to start to playing it again to promote the most left-wing president the country has ever seen, Barack Obama. And there has been an explosion -- I mean, if you had a graph of racism sightings, it was through the roof until the O.J. [Simpson] verdict and then basically completely disappeared between O.J. and Guiliani and Bill O'Reilly, on this network, going after Jesse Jackson, repeatedly. It just went away, it didn't work anymore. It was like a subway token that didn't open the gate anymore. And when Obama came back, wow, it just exploded again. But unfortunately for liberals, there is no racism America. There is more cholera in America than there is racism and so they have to invent it. GH missed the context, which included 1. an attack on obama 2. an attack on leftism 3. a brief mention of the oj simpson trial 4. a simile which didn't really make sense So instead of being appalled at the statement, he can now be appalled at the shitty supporting facts and stuff that led to the statement. | ||
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Ryuhou)aS(
United States1174 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:31 dAPhREAk wrote: thread. are we allowed to read infowars.com? dont want to waste my time unnecessarily. also, @hannahmontana, i read the coulter interview. i am curious how you interpret it, because i cringed. I thought through all that argument over bias / unbias sources that it was determined an article should be judged by its content and not by the place it's written or who wrote it. If there's erroneous information, point it out and argue against that. If there's opinion you disagree with argue against that. Don't just automatically dismiss something without even reading it solely based on where it came from. | ||
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hannahbelle
United States0 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:31 dAPhREAk wrote: thread. are we allowed to read infowars.com? dont want to waste my time unnecessarily. also, @hannahmontana, i read the coulter interview. i am curious how you interpret it, because i cringed. It's easy to interpret. Racism is something the race baiter like Jackson and Sharpton trot out to explain why half of America doesn't like Obama. Or to explain why people don't think shooting a 300lb thug who was bull rushing a police officer after robbing a convenience store is a racist act. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18234 Posts
On March 13 2015 09:49 hannahbelle wrote: It's easy to interpret. Racism is something the race baiter like Jackson and Sharpton trot out to explain why half of America doesn't like Obama. Or to explain why people don't think shooting a 300lb thug who was bull rushing a police officer after robbing a convenience store is a racist act. Before I even comment, is your position that there is no more racism in the USA, and most if not all mentions of racism are liberal propaganda? Because that seems to be what Ann Coulter was saying there (albeit in a mindnumbingly dumb comparison). | ||
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hannahbelle
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On March 13 2015 10:25 Acrofales wrote: Before I even comment, is your position that there is no more racism in the USA, and most if not all mentions of racism are liberal propaganda? Because that seems to be what Ann Coulter was saying there (albeit in a mindnumbingly dumb comparison). No, my position is that in the context of the interview, it was intellectually dishonest of Green (I see racism in a warm beer mug) Horizons to accuse Coulter of saying racism doesn't exist. | ||
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