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it's a valid criticism of the authenticity of those communist's claim for equality etc when their actual regimes do the most oppressive things and install hierarchy. just like it was legit to criticize those americans who claim to be for freedom etc while tolerating slavery and killing of indians.
but the ideology itself can be analyzed separately from the behavior of particular historical persons. largely as a matter of modal difference.
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Facism = You work for your country.
Socialism = Your Country works for you.
Thats, in theory, the major diffrence between Socialism and Facism when it comes to the role of the state... Both want "big" states, but the purpose isn't the same.
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Under a plan baked into the White House’s budget for 2016, U.S. corporations would theoretically be forced to pay hundreds of billions in new taxes on money kept abroad.
Levying fees on the $2.1 trillion in funds largely held by shell companies through an accounting trick called deferral, the move, which President Barack Obama announced last month, is aimed at raising cash for desperately needed public works programs and infrastructure improvements. If he is successful, companies would no longer have a legal way of avoiding the 35 percent corporate tax by indefinitely investing funds outside the U.S.
But analysts say it’s unlikely such a tax haven windfall will materialize, because it depends on being included in budget legislation drafted and passed by a Republican-controlled Congress. In that sense, the proposal — part of a larger fiscal document outlining where the White House stands on important questions — is seen as a starting gambit in tax reform negotiations.
Republican politicians have vowed to scupper the plans when they come before Congress, where the GOP has a four-seat majority in the Senate and overwhelming control of the House after midterm elections last year from which they emerged victorious and emboldened.
"For six years the president has pursued higher taxes and higher spending, and our economy has paid the price. This budget is simply more of the same,” said House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis.
Yet behind such a stance lie powerful business interests that have long stored cash offshore rather than paying U.S. taxes. Representing hundreds of multinational companies, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Business Roundtable successfully defended against more modest tax reforms in Obama’s first term.
The Chamber, which spent $33 million for Republicans and against Democrats in the last election cycle, described his budget as “more spending, more taxes, more debt.”
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"For six years the president has pursued higher taxes and higher spending, and our economy has paid the price. This budget is simply more of the same,” said House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis.
I for one am enjoying our declining unemployment rate and GDP growth.
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On March 13 2015 02:04 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +"For six years the president has pursued higher taxes and higher spending, and our economy has paid the price. This budget is simply more of the same,” said House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis.
I for one am enjoying our declining unemployment rate and GDP growth.
You don't get it: when something bad happens, it's because of government. When something good happens, it's in spite of government. Unless you are the mover and shaker, in which case, flip the two.
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On March 12 2015 20:11 RCMDVA wrote:
Overnight Ferguson, MO heated up.
Right in front of the police station.
i am writing this solely for the purpose of using filter to find my post about nobody wanting to work as police in ferguson.
found it:
On March 06 2015 10:05 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 09:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:48 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:38 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:34 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:17 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 08:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could also use the recruiting tool of "get attacked by local residents, defend yourself, get villified by the media and sued by the family of the attacker" plus low salary and meager benefits because we're a poor city. added benefit of not getting paid at all because we are about to go bankrupt from class action civil lawsuits. i for one will line up for such excellent job opportunities.
i think the thread needs to bring itself back to reality. You mean where we pretend this wouldn't be the only thing running on right wing outlets if it was happening to white republicans? Like the shit storm republicans raised over PAC's not getting certain tax status. Because obviously not being able to skirt around paying taxes is a way bigger deal than not being able to walk your own streets without fear of having your rights trampled on. Give me a break! All the shit that has come out and we're already back to "black people don't want to be police" and "we don't really know why?" Seriously... it's not hard to figure out. You might want to start by asking retired black officers. I'm amazed they even got 2 black people to participate in their sanctioned thuggary. i thought we discussed this. you take something simple and blow it way the fuck out of proportion and start talking about them "republicans." you are the liberal version of the tea party. and i just told you why nobody, including blacks, wants to work in ferguson. its not a we dont know why, its an everybody fucking knows why nobody wants to work in this shitberg. also, the guy above just posted an article talking about why recruiting minorities is difficult. they dont want to work in shitberg either. Pretending that there wouldn't be calls to move mountains, if that's what it took, to right the injustice if it was a struggling white community being abused at the hands of the police let alone black police is delusional. You guys telling me having bosses that trade racist emails co-workers who openly share racist comments and incidents and being forced to rob/persecute your own community isn't a large part of it? I am just awestruck at this shit. and where did i tell you that? or by "you guys" were you referring to the "republicans" again. i don't think anyone with a second choice would want to work in this shitberg, white or black. it wasn't a desirable location before the recent events, and it isn't getting better. the idea that you can just fire the PD and replace it with do-gooders is so fucking laughable that i laugh, because its laughable. and of course there would be calls for blood if a white community was persecuted, just like there are calls for blood because of ferguson. but when you ask them to reach for their wallets, see how silent the room becomes, in both cases. You and others are suggesting that the reason black people don't want to work for a racist department that abuses the people they police is that it's a shitty town (among other bs reasons). It's so ridiculous I can't believe it's actually being said. let me make this clear for you: nobody (as in not blacks, not whites, not martians, not romanians, not brazilians, not pegasuseses, not draconians, not off-whites) wants to work in fucking ferguson if they have a choice. yeah, blacks probably don't want to work there because of the racists as well (although i find this amusing since there are black police officers affectionately referred to as Uncle Tom by the loving populace), but who the fucks cares, its irrelevant to my point that nobody is going to step up to the plate to work there if you removed the current racist, martian, probably homophobic, definitely not having another choice in careers PD. nobody.
add "must not be concerned that police are target for murder" to the list of job qualifications.
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On March 13 2015 02:34 dAPhREAk wrote:i am writing this solely for the purpose of using filter to find my post about nobody wanting to work as police in ferguson. found it: Show nested quote +On March 06 2015 10:05 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:48 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:38 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:34 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:17 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 08:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could also use the recruiting tool of "get attacked by local residents, defend yourself, get villified by the media and sued by the family of the attacker" plus low salary and meager benefits because we're a poor city. added benefit of not getting paid at all because we are about to go bankrupt from class action civil lawsuits. i for one will line up for such excellent job opportunities.
i think the thread needs to bring itself back to reality. You mean where we pretend this wouldn't be the only thing running on right wing outlets if it was happening to white republicans? Like the shit storm republicans raised over PAC's not getting certain tax status. Because obviously not being able to skirt around paying taxes is a way bigger deal than not being able to walk your own streets without fear of having your rights trampled on. Give me a break! All the shit that has come out and we're already back to "black people don't want to be police" and "we don't really know why?" Seriously... it's not hard to figure out. You might want to start by asking retired black officers. I'm amazed they even got 2 black people to participate in their sanctioned thuggary. i thought we discussed this. you take something simple and blow it way the fuck out of proportion and start talking about them "republicans." you are the liberal version of the tea party. and i just told you why nobody, including blacks, wants to work in ferguson. its not a we dont know why, its an everybody fucking knows why nobody wants to work in this shitberg. also, the guy above just posted an article talking about why recruiting minorities is difficult. they dont want to work in shitberg either. Pretending that there wouldn't be calls to move mountains, if that's what it took, to right the injustice if it was a struggling white community being abused at the hands of the police let alone black police is delusional. You guys telling me having bosses that trade racist emails co-workers who openly share racist comments and incidents and being forced to rob/persecute your own community isn't a large part of it? I am just awestruck at this shit. and where did i tell you that? or by "you guys" were you referring to the "republicans" again. i don't think anyone with a second choice would want to work in this shitberg, white or black. it wasn't a desirable location before the recent events, and it isn't getting better. the idea that you can just fire the PD and replace it with do-gooders is so fucking laughable that i laugh, because its laughable. and of course there would be calls for blood if a white community was persecuted, just like there are calls for blood because of ferguson. but when you ask them to reach for their wallets, see how silent the room becomes, in both cases. You and others are suggesting that the reason black people don't want to work for a racist department that abuses the people they police is that it's a shitty town (among other bs reasons). It's so ridiculous I can't believe it's actually being said. let me make this clear for you: nobody (as in not blacks, not whites, not martians, not romanians, not brazilians, not pegasuseses, not draconians, not off-whites) wants to work in fucking ferguson if they have a choice. yeah, blacks probably don't want to work there because of the racists as well (although i find this amusing since there are black police officers affectionately referred to as Uncle Tom by the loving populace), but who the fucks cares, its irrelevant to my point that nobody is going to step up to the plate to work there if you removed the current racist, martian, probably homophobic, definitely not having another choice in careers PD. nobody. add "must not be concerned that police are target for murder" to the list of job qualifications.
If people hadn't turned a blind eye toward then rallied behind a corrupt, racist department run by a racist, lying chief that fed the community into a corrupt, racist courtroom, there would probably not be so much vitriol for the police in Ferguson. Maybe if someone was going to jail for all the flagrant disregard of peoples constitutional rights. Maybe if they hadn't given nearly $100,000 to the chief after he was exposed as being a blatant liar. Maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible place to be a cop/resident.
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On March 12 2015 23:52 Velr wrote:
Facism = You work for your country.
Socialism = Your Country works for you.
fascism : primitive
socialism : 2x primitive
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On March 13 2015 02:42 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 02:34 dAPhREAk wrote:i am writing this solely for the purpose of using filter to find my post about nobody wanting to work as police in ferguson. found it: On March 06 2015 10:05 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:48 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:38 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:34 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:17 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 08:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could also use the recruiting tool of "get attacked by local residents, defend yourself, get villified by the media and sued by the family of the attacker" plus low salary and meager benefits because we're a poor city. added benefit of not getting paid at all because we are about to go bankrupt from class action civil lawsuits. i for one will line up for such excellent job opportunities.
i think the thread needs to bring itself back to reality. You mean where we pretend this wouldn't be the only thing running on right wing outlets if it was happening to white republicans? Like the shit storm republicans raised over PAC's not getting certain tax status. Because obviously not being able to skirt around paying taxes is a way bigger deal than not being able to walk your own streets without fear of having your rights trampled on. Give me a break! All the shit that has come out and we're already back to "black people don't want to be police" and "we don't really know why?" Seriously... it's not hard to figure out. You might want to start by asking retired black officers. I'm amazed they even got 2 black people to participate in their sanctioned thuggary. i thought we discussed this. you take something simple and blow it way the fuck out of proportion and start talking about them "republicans." you are the liberal version of the tea party. and i just told you why nobody, including blacks, wants to work in ferguson. its not a we dont know why, its an everybody fucking knows why nobody wants to work in this shitberg. also, the guy above just posted an article talking about why recruiting minorities is difficult. they dont want to work in shitberg either. Pretending that there wouldn't be calls to move mountains, if that's what it took, to right the injustice if it was a struggling white community being abused at the hands of the police let alone black police is delusional. You guys telling me having bosses that trade racist emails co-workers who openly share racist comments and incidents and being forced to rob/persecute your own community isn't a large part of it? I am just awestruck at this shit. and where did i tell you that? or by "you guys" were you referring to the "republicans" again. i don't think anyone with a second choice would want to work in this shitberg, white or black. it wasn't a desirable location before the recent events, and it isn't getting better. the idea that you can just fire the PD and replace it with do-gooders is so fucking laughable that i laugh, because its laughable. and of course there would be calls for blood if a white community was persecuted, just like there are calls for blood because of ferguson. but when you ask them to reach for their wallets, see how silent the room becomes, in both cases. You and others are suggesting that the reason black people don't want to work for a racist department that abuses the people they police is that it's a shitty town (among other bs reasons). It's so ridiculous I can't believe it's actually being said. let me make this clear for you: nobody (as in not blacks, not whites, not martians, not romanians, not brazilians, not pegasuseses, not draconians, not off-whites) wants to work in fucking ferguson if they have a choice. yeah, blacks probably don't want to work there because of the racists as well (although i find this amusing since there are black police officers affectionately referred to as Uncle Tom by the loving populace), but who the fucks cares, its irrelevant to my point that nobody is going to step up to the plate to work there if you removed the current racist, martian, probably homophobic, definitely not having another choice in careers PD. nobody. add "must not be concerned that police are target for murder" to the list of job qualifications. If people hadn't turned a blind eye toward then rallied behind a corrupt, racist department run by a racist, lying chief that fed the community into a corrupt, racist courtroom, there would probably not be so much vitriol for the police in Ferguson. Maybe if someone was going to jail for all the flagrant disregard of peoples constitutional rights. Maybe if they hadn't given nearly $100,000 to the chief after he was exposed as being a blatant liar. Maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible place to be a cop/resident.
my point then and now is that its a terrible fucking place where people aren't lining up to work as police officers. you seem to agree.
also, i find it amusing and predictable that you seem to be justifying the attempted murders.
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On March 13 2015 02:54 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 02:42 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 13 2015 02:34 dAPhREAk wrote:i am writing this solely for the purpose of using filter to find my post about nobody wanting to work as police in ferguson. found it: On March 06 2015 10:05 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:48 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:38 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:34 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:17 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 08:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could also use the recruiting tool of "get attacked by local residents, defend yourself, get villified by the media and sued by the family of the attacker" plus low salary and meager benefits because we're a poor city. added benefit of not getting paid at all because we are about to go bankrupt from class action civil lawsuits. i for one will line up for such excellent job opportunities.
i think the thread needs to bring itself back to reality. You mean where we pretend this wouldn't be the only thing running on right wing outlets if it was happening to white republicans? Like the shit storm republicans raised over PAC's not getting certain tax status. Because obviously not being able to skirt around paying taxes is a way bigger deal than not being able to walk your own streets without fear of having your rights trampled on. Give me a break! All the shit that has come out and we're already back to "black people don't want to be police" and "we don't really know why?" Seriously... it's not hard to figure out. You might want to start by asking retired black officers. I'm amazed they even got 2 black people to participate in their sanctioned thuggary. i thought we discussed this. you take something simple and blow it way the fuck out of proportion and start talking about them "republicans." you are the liberal version of the tea party. and i just told you why nobody, including blacks, wants to work in ferguson. its not a we dont know why, its an everybody fucking knows why nobody wants to work in this shitberg. also, the guy above just posted an article talking about why recruiting minorities is difficult. they dont want to work in shitberg either. Pretending that there wouldn't be calls to move mountains, if that's what it took, to right the injustice if it was a struggling white community being abused at the hands of the police let alone black police is delusional. You guys telling me having bosses that trade racist emails co-workers who openly share racist comments and incidents and being forced to rob/persecute your own community isn't a large part of it? I am just awestruck at this shit. and where did i tell you that? or by "you guys" were you referring to the "republicans" again. i don't think anyone with a second choice would want to work in this shitberg, white or black. it wasn't a desirable location before the recent events, and it isn't getting better. the idea that you can just fire the PD and replace it with do-gooders is so fucking laughable that i laugh, because its laughable. and of course there would be calls for blood if a white community was persecuted, just like there are calls for blood because of ferguson. but when you ask them to reach for their wallets, see how silent the room becomes, in both cases. You and others are suggesting that the reason black people don't want to work for a racist department that abuses the people they police is that it's a shitty town (among other bs reasons). It's so ridiculous I can't believe it's actually being said. let me make this clear for you: nobody (as in not blacks, not whites, not martians, not romanians, not brazilians, not pegasuseses, not draconians, not off-whites) wants to work in fucking ferguson if they have a choice. yeah, blacks probably don't want to work there because of the racists as well (although i find this amusing since there are black police officers affectionately referred to as Uncle Tom by the loving populace), but who the fucks cares, its irrelevant to my point that nobody is going to step up to the plate to work there if you removed the current racist, martian, probably homophobic, definitely not having another choice in careers PD. nobody. add "must not be concerned that police are target for murder" to the list of job qualifications. If people hadn't turned a blind eye toward then rallied behind a corrupt, racist department run by a racist, lying chief that fed the community into a corrupt, racist courtroom, there would probably not be so much vitriol for the police in Ferguson. Maybe if someone was going to jail for all the flagrant disregard of peoples constitutional rights. Maybe if they hadn't given nearly $100,000 to the chief after he was exposed as being a blatant liar. Maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible place to be a cop/resident. my point then and now is that its a terrible fucking place where people aren't lining up to work as police officers. you seem to agree. also, i find it amusing and predictable that you seem to be justifying the attempted murders.
Didn't you know that shooting cops was part of Dr. King's approach to civil rights?
Oh, wait.
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There is a huge difference in explaining and justifying.
And regarding the socialism bashing: what range of ideologies do you even include in that? @ lastpuritan
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On March 13 2015 02:57 puerk wrote:
There is a huge difference in explaining and justifying.
And how do you think an explanation of SAE's racist chant would be received?
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On March 13 2015 02:54 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 02:42 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 13 2015 02:34 dAPhREAk wrote:i am writing this solely for the purpose of using filter to find my post about nobody wanting to work as police in ferguson. found it: On March 06 2015 10:05 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:48 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:38 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 09:34 dAPhREAk wrote:On March 06 2015 09:17 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 06 2015 08:33 dAPhREAk wrote:
they could also use the recruiting tool of "get attacked by local residents, defend yourself, get villified by the media and sued by the family of the attacker" plus low salary and meager benefits because we're a poor city. added benefit of not getting paid at all because we are about to go bankrupt from class action civil lawsuits. i for one will line up for such excellent job opportunities.
i think the thread needs to bring itself back to reality. You mean where we pretend this wouldn't be the only thing running on right wing outlets if it was happening to white republicans? Like the shit storm republicans raised over PAC's not getting certain tax status. Because obviously not being able to skirt around paying taxes is a way bigger deal than not being able to walk your own streets without fear of having your rights trampled on. Give me a break! All the shit that has come out and we're already back to "black people don't want to be police" and "we don't really know why?" Seriously... it's not hard to figure out. You might want to start by asking retired black officers. I'm amazed they even got 2 black people to participate in their sanctioned thuggary. i thought we discussed this. you take something simple and blow it way the fuck out of proportion and start talking about them "republicans." you are the liberal version of the tea party. and i just told you why nobody, including blacks, wants to work in ferguson. its not a we dont know why, its an everybody fucking knows why nobody wants to work in this shitberg. also, the guy above just posted an article talking about why recruiting minorities is difficult. they dont want to work in shitberg either. Pretending that there wouldn't be calls to move mountains, if that's what it took, to right the injustice if it was a struggling white community being abused at the hands of the police let alone black police is delusional. You guys telling me having bosses that trade racist emails co-workers who openly share racist comments and incidents and being forced to rob/persecute your own community isn't a large part of it? I am just awestruck at this shit. and where did i tell you that? or by "you guys" were you referring to the "republicans" again. i don't think anyone with a second choice would want to work in this shitberg, white or black. it wasn't a desirable location before the recent events, and it isn't getting better. the idea that you can just fire the PD and replace it with do-gooders is so fucking laughable that i laugh, because its laughable. and of course there would be calls for blood if a white community was persecuted, just like there are calls for blood because of ferguson. but when you ask them to reach for their wallets, see how silent the room becomes, in both cases. You and others are suggesting that the reason black people don't want to work for a racist department that abuses the people they police is that it's a shitty town (among other bs reasons). It's so ridiculous I can't believe it's actually being said. let me make this clear for you: nobody (as in not blacks, not whites, not martians, not romanians, not brazilians, not pegasuseses, not draconians, not off-whites) wants to work in fucking ferguson if they have a choice. yeah, blacks probably don't want to work there because of the racists as well (although i find this amusing since there are black police officers affectionately referred to as Uncle Tom by the loving populace), but who the fucks cares, its irrelevant to my point that nobody is going to step up to the plate to work there if you removed the current racist, martian, probably homophobic, definitely not having another choice in careers PD. nobody. add "must not be concerned that police are target for murder" to the list of job qualifications. If people hadn't turned a blind eye toward then rallied behind a corrupt, racist department run by a racist, lying chief that fed the community into a corrupt, racist courtroom, there would probably not be so much vitriol for the police in Ferguson. Maybe if someone was going to jail for all the flagrant disregard of peoples constitutional rights. Maybe if they hadn't given nearly $100,000 to the chief after he was exposed as being a blatant liar. Maybe it wouldn't be such a terrible place to be a cop/resident. my point then and now is that its a terrible fucking place where people aren't lining up to work as police officers. you seem to agree. also, i find it amusing and predictable that you seem to be justifying the attempted murders.
Other than a corrupt and racist system it's not particularly worse than plenty of small cities.
Of course I'm not justifying attempted murder, but we don't even know who shot the cops or whether the cops were who they were aiming at. You guys would be the first to say that we shouldn't jump to conclusions without facts/evidence, all we know is cops were shot.
I was saying there probably wouldn't have been protests to blame for the shooting (ala Fox/xDaunt) had people not tried to defend/ignore a blatantly corrupt and racist system.
On March 13 2015 03:04 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 02:57 puerk wrote:
There is a huge difference in explaining and justifying. And how do you think an explanation of SAE's racist chant would be received?
You mean like this...
Guest Bill Kristol added, “Popular culture becomes a cesspool, a lot [of] corporations profit off of it, and then people are surprised that some drunk 19-year-old kids repeat what they’ve been hearing.
I mean it's totally disconnected from the reality of the situation but yeah...
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On March 13 2015 02:53 lastpuritan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2015 23:52 Velr wrote:
Facism = You work for your country.
Socialism = Your Country works for you.
fascism : primitive socialism : 2x primitive
this post would be funny, but considering that the US actually acted like this in the past 50 years, it kinda becomes sad.
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On March 13 2015 03:04 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 02:57 puerk wrote:
There is a huge difference in explaining and justifying. And how do you think an explanation of SAE's racist chant would be received?
Isn't the explanation that it was racist? What more is there to say?
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On March 13 2015 02:57 puerk wrote:
There is a huge difference in explaining and justifying.
And regarding the socialism bashing: what range of ideologies do you even include in that? @ lastpuritan
all except libertarian socialism 
On March 13 2015 03:06 Paljas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 02:53 lastpuritan wrote:On March 12 2015 23:52 Velr wrote:
Facism = You work for your country.
Socialism = Your Country works for you.
fascism : primitive socialism : 2x primitive this post would be funny, but considering that the US actually acted like this in the past 50 years, it kinda becomes sad.
your country works for you - said no county ever - illusions everywhere..
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On March 13 2015 03:24 lastpuritan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 02:57 puerk wrote:
There is a huge difference in explaining and justifying.
And regarding the socialism bashing: what range of ideologies do you even include in that? @ lastpuritan all except libertarian socialism
That you even consider "all" in any way, shape or form appropriate as an answer to that question shows a lack of understanding of political ideologies.
I was especially curios if you consider any form of social democracy pertaining to your use of the socialism label, and if yes, which.
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On March 13 2015 03:24 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 03:04 xDaunt wrote:On March 13 2015 02:57 puerk wrote:
There is a huge difference in explaining and justifying. And how do you think an explanation of SAE's racist chant would be received? Isn't the explanation that it was racist? What more is there to say?
I guess one could talk about how they were saying they were 'taught' the chant. Or how it's #notjustSAE but I don't think that's what you meant huh?
Again, this comment was posted weeks before the OU SAE bus video surfaced. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/c1sTQN3.png)
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There's a reason SAE is also known as "Same Assholes Everywhere."
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