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It's Gom's fault. Byun has nothing to do with it. Gom loaded the map... anything goes once in game. Period.
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On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that.
Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this?
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lol, just watched the game again. nestea completely blew the defense. terrible play by nestea through and through. TERRIBLE.
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On July 14 2012 06:38 -Switch- wrote:
It's Gom's fault. Byun has nothing to do with it. Gom loaded the map... anything goes once in game. Period.
..and IM didn't complain until after the SECOND game, therefore their own fault (along with NesTea's) as they kind of acknowledged the strategy by not saying anything.
If NesTea or IM would've left an complaint immediately after or paused the game when it happened there would have been a rematch.
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On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this?
It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it.
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On July 14 2012 06:52 leffe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:38 -Switch- wrote:
It's Gom's fault. Byun has nothing to do with it. Gom loaded the map... anything goes once in game. Period. ..and IM didn't complain until after the SECOND game, therefore their own fault (along with NesTea's) as they kind of acknowledged the strategy by not saying anything. If NesTea or IM would've left an complaint immediately after or paused the game when it happened there would have been a rematch.
I dont think there should have been a rematch even if nestea paused and complained. Its a legitimate map that has been used in other recent gsl games. Forcing a rematch would have been unfair to byun. Once again, nestea completely BLEW the defense. He scouted it, he let both bunkers start, he pulled his drones away from an scv with 5 hp, he lost a queen and other units needlessly. Byun won fair and square, even though I know its hard for a few people to understand.
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On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it.
There is NO RULE stating you cant block a ramp with bunkers. Find me the rule and Ill agree with you. Byun played perfectly fair and won straight up. Just admit it already.
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On July 14 2012 06:56 stratmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. There is NO RULE stating you cant block a ramp with bunkers. Find me the rule and Ill agree with you. Byun played perfectly fair and won straight up. Just admit it already.
Ok maybe my english is really bad or you didn't read my first sentence in which I wrote that it wasn't against rules.
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On July 14 2012 06:58 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:56 stratmatt wrote:On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. There is NO RULE stating you cant block a ramp with bunkers. Find me the rule and Ill agree with you. Byun played perfectly fair and won straight up. Just admit it already. Ok maybe my english is really bad or you didn't read my first sentence in which I wrote that it wasn't against rules.
Byun's PoV
1. This is first map, i'll watch GSL/GSLT this season and see how it went.
2. Notices that in all 7+ games on this map, no depot exists. He watches them all to be sure it wasn't a bug/unintended.
3. He was playing on correct version of the map on ladder iirc. Whilst Nestea obviously didn't when playing custom games.
4. Since he saw so many games and didn't think it was a bug, he prepared a strat around it.
5. Byun prospers.
He did everything expected of him as a progamer, and more. He is definetely not the first to notice, and if he is, then the KR progamers are lacking in a few areas (awareness of map mechanics). He is not to blame. People stop flaming him. Im not even going to get into who's fault/etc, its irrelevant at this point and its been discussed to death.
GOM issued a statement. Issue that arose has now been fixed. Please leave it be with the Byun hating, he did nothing wrong.
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On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it.
To say that Byun's training would have been fruitless if GOM had used the correct version of the map is a little silly. It's an 11/11 Rax with a ramp block...not exactly rocket science. If they had loaded up the map and the depot was there, he would have played a standard game, and by all indications from Games 2 and 3, would have smacked NesTea anyways.
The fault likes with GOM and the map makers for not noticing the bug, not with Byun for winning a professional SC2 match, which is after all what he is paid to do.
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On July 14 2012 07:10 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. To say that Byun's training would have been fruitless if GOM had used the correct version of the map is a little silly. It's an 11/11 Rax with a ramp block...not exactly rocket science. If they had loaded up the map and the depot was there, he would have played a standard game, and by all indications from Games 2 and 3, would have smacked NesTea anyways. The fault likes with GOM and the map makers for not noticing the bug, not with Byun for winning a professional SC2 match, which is after all what he is paid to do.
I agree that the fault lies with gom, a bunker rush isn't rocket science and he would've won the match either way.
But can't you see why I don't think that Byun gave a good example with his behaviour? If not I will just stop arguing.
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On July 14 2012 07:10 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. To say that Byun's training would have been fruitless if GOM had used the correct version of the map is a little silly. It's an 11/11 Rax with a ramp block...not exactly rocket science. If they had loaded up the map and the depot was there, he would have played a standard game, and by all indications from Games 2 and 3, would have smacked NesTea anyways. The fault likes with GOM and the map makers for not noticing the bug, not with Byun for winning a professional SC2 match, which is after all what he is paid to do.
But undoubtedly he'd practised that a million times, and not practised anything else for that map. Imagine they put a neutral depot where the natural should be placed, would you still say "well 15 hatch isn't exactly rocket science for Nestea, he can just play a standard game off a pool first opening!"? of course not!
In fact, it would be equally unfair if Gom had told byun it was going to be a version of the map without a neutral depot, and then made him play the game on one with the neutral depot.
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On July 14 2012 07:17 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 07:10 ZasZ. wrote:On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. To say that Byun's training would have been fruitless if GOM had used the correct version of the map is a little silly. It's an 11/11 Rax with a ramp block...not exactly rocket science. If they had loaded up the map and the depot was there, he would have played a standard game, and by all indications from Games 2 and 3, would have smacked NesTea anyways. The fault likes with GOM and the map makers for not noticing the bug, not with Byun for winning a professional SC2 match, which is after all what he is paid to do. I agree that the fault lies with gom, a bunker rush isn't rocket science and he would've won the match either way. But can't you see why I don't think that Byun gave a good example with his behaviour? If not I will just stop arguing.
No? Because it's not a behavior its a strategy. I'm loathe to bring up his incident with CoCa, but that was an example of bad professional behavior. Pulling off a 11/11 rax with a bunker block is cheesy and not fun to watch, but is a valid strategy. GOM put a stop to it by adding the depot to improve viewer experience, but it doesn't make it any less valid, and if the depot goes away, he has every right to do it.
He's paid to win games, not set examples.
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On July 14 2012 07:21 monkybone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Thing is, Byun didn't break any rules. Your metaphor doesn't apply at all. A better metaphor would be lawyer abusing a legal loophole or something. Makes for a good lawyer, not a scumbag or anything.
You are right.
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On July 14 2012 07:20 CluEleSs_UK wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 07:10 ZasZ. wrote:On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. To say that Byun's training would have been fruitless if GOM had used the correct version of the map is a little silly. It's an 11/11 Rax with a ramp block...not exactly rocket science. If they had loaded up the map and the depot was there, he would have played a standard game, and by all indications from Games 2 and 3, would have smacked NesTea anyways. The fault likes with GOM and the map makers for not noticing the bug, not with Byun for winning a professional SC2 match, which is after all what he is paid to do. But undoubtedly he'd practised that a million times, and not practised anything else for that map. Imagine they put a neutral depot where the natural should be placed, would you still say "well 15 hatch isn't exactly rocket science for Nestea, he can just play a standard game off a pool first opening!"? of course not!
Where do you get off saying that Byun "undoubtedly" practiced a certain way? Do you live in the Prime house? You're just making shit up. There's no doubt he planned to do the block, but does that really require practice? You don't think he practiced other strategies as well in the event that the depot was included? 15 Hatch is a standard opening, while a 11/11 bunker block is a calculated cheese. You don't "practice" 15 Hatch the same way you don't "practice" a cheese a platinum player can pull off.
EDIT: To clarify, I'm not saying he definitely didn't practice either, I just find it hard to believe that he put all his eggs in the "GOM screwing the map up" basket.
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On July 14 2012 07:20 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 07:17 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 07:10 ZasZ. wrote:On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. To say that Byun's training would have been fruitless if GOM had used the correct version of the map is a little silly. It's an 11/11 Rax with a ramp block...not exactly rocket science. If they had loaded up the map and the depot was there, he would have played a standard game, and by all indications from Games 2 and 3, would have smacked NesTea anyways. The fault likes with GOM and the map makers for not noticing the bug, not with Byun for winning a professional SC2 match, which is after all what he is paid to do. I agree that the fault lies with gom, a bunker rush isn't rocket science and he would've won the match either way. But can't you see why I don't think that Byun gave a good example with his behaviour? If not I will just stop arguing. No? Because it's not a behavior its a strategy. I'm loathe to bring up his incident with CoCa, but that was an example of bad professional behavior. Pulling off a 11/11 rax with a bunker block is cheesy and not fun to watch, but is a valid strategy. GOM put a stop to it by adding the depot to improve viewer experience, but it doesn't make it any less valid, and if the depot goes away, he has every right to do it. He's paid to win games, not set examples.
I'm not referring to his 11/11 bunker ramp block with behaviour, you just don't see my point, let's just stop here.
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On July 14 2012 07:10 ZasZ. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 06:53 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 06:39 SnipedSoul wrote:On July 14 2012 06:35 Musicus wrote:On July 14 2012 05:30 monkybone wrote:
There is no player obligation to inform GOM about this. It's GOM's responsibility alone, Byun simply profited from their mistake. If anything it shows a keen eye for opportunity. Lmfao "a keen eye for opportunity"... really? Well a scumbag who assaults a helpless women and snatches her purse also has a keen eye for opportunity. Just an extreme example, to show that some things are still wrong even if there is the "opportunity", I am not saying that Byun is a scumbag or criminal or something like that. Byun saw that a map didn't have depots at the ramp. He checked several VODs to verify his information. He saw an opportunity to bunker block. What is wrong about this? It's not wrong in the sense that it's against rules, it's just a matter of principles or a question of honour in my opinion. If he noticed on the spot and decided to use it OK, but he was the first to notice the mistake and then prepared a strat, using a mistake on the map. If gom would've done their job the map should've been fiexed till the match against nestea and Byun's training would've been fruitless. Everybody is at fault here, even Nestea for not noticing the mistake during training (maybe he trained on the correct version) and ofcourse gom, but Byun had the chance to fix the mistake but instead decided to abuse it. To say that Byun's training would have been fruitless if GOM had used the correct version of the map is a little silly. It's an 11/11 Rax with a ramp block...not exactly rocket science. If they had loaded up the map and the depot was there, he would have played a standard game, and by all indications from Games 2 and 3, would have smacked NesTea anyways. The fault likes with GOM and the map makers for not noticing the bug, not with Byun for winning a professional SC2 match, which is after all what he is paid to do.
A minor quibble that keeps getting lost is, they *did* play on the *correct* version of the map. It's just, that version had an unintended balance change. That's why people are blaming the map-maker (and Gom by extension).
A lot of people find things about maps that they exploit, which are subsequently edited out in later versions.
I don't believe the GSL allows that walled off marine on Entombed Valley anymore does it?
After Jinro double bunkered Idra's ramp on Metal, GSL added an unbuildable hex to the bottom of the ramp (precursor to the neutral supply depot).
After countless terrans dropped tanks on the low ground between the main and third on Tal'Darim Alter, the low ground was just removed.
Then after Frozen won a game by blinking from the 3rd to the main, they widened the space to disallow it.
These are just off the top of my head.
Not to mention that no one ever had a problem with Crossfire or Dual Sight lacking neutral supply depots during their entire usage... (check the Blizzard Cup finals between MMA and DRG to see the missing depots for yourself).
Or the fact that you could double bunker (or triple pylon) the chokes on TDA and Bel'Shir back when they were in play.
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Wish Nestea had fought for his right....
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On July 12 2012 22:26 Waxangel wrote:Byun did the super cheesy two-bunker wall-off at the bottom of Nestea's main ramp. Pretty much every tourney map has a neutral supply depot in place there to prevent this strat from being used.
Nothing cheesy about it. Byun decided to two-rax and by the time his units arrived at Nestea's natural he had some minerals floating as is normal with that build during that time. So he could either invest them into his attack or complete the wall in his base and expand afterwards. But since he realized that he can wall of the ramp and that his opponent was not blocking it, he took the right decision for an autowin.
tl;dr: the two rax might have been a bit cheesy, but walling off was just a right decision.
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