EPT[Spoilers] GSL Metropolis Neutral Depot Situation - Page 11
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chambertin
United States1704 Posts
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BlindKill
Australia1508 Posts
"Byun didn't abuse a map bug. He thought this map didn't have depots. Some people will say 'dont be retarded all maps need them', but then i can just reply 'why was nestea retarded as well then and not pause' " Regardless of whether Byun know its a bug or not , I think no punishments should be handed. It's not his fault, more of the GOMTV and the mapmakers. Also, IMJunwi needs to not scratch his balls in front of the camera its hurting esports. | ||
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shockaslim
United States1104 Posts
With that said, Nestea should have either paused the game, or blocked the easily scouted bunker rush. | ||
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SeinGalton
South Africa387 Posts
On July 13 2012 00:19 MaNaVoId wrote: lol do you understand anything about professionalism at all? If this is a Kespa game , byun would have been disqualified because he abused a bug on the map that he knew. I'm amazed at how many posts start off with these moronic rhetorical questions. You should give people the opportunity to ignore you before you follow through with the rant part, and if you insist on being demeaning you should do it in style and at least be entertaining. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
it's unfortunate, yes, nestea should have noticed it, maybe. but it's not right to call out a player for using a winning strategy. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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DougJDempsey
747 Posts
On July 12 2012 23:46 Tuczniak wrote: Gomtv failed so hard. They should have had stop the game right away. Now all results are discredited. Also players should say it's wrong and don't abuse everything they find. A win's a win tbh. I dont get why he was the only one observant enough to notice = his obligation to inform anyone else.. He lives off the money he makes for playing. Cant expect him to give up a edge when its his livelihood. | ||
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1st_Panzer_Div.
United States621 Posts
Also gives you a nice perspective for how much reasearch these guys put into their games beforehand. | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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Marooned
Norway161 Posts
On July 13 2012 00:39 shadymmj wrote: if byun's base had a depot and nestea's didn't, then maybe you can claim it's unfair, but the situation was the same for both. it's unfortunate, yes, nestea should have noticed it, maybe. but it's not right to call out a player for using a winning strategy. And how is a zerg ever supposed to abuse a ramp with no neutral depot? But yeah, it was a winning strategy. Kinda pathetic, but some are willing to do anything for a win, you cant really blame them for it. In the end it was GOMs fault, not the abuser. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
It's such a rare situation though that perhaps they could have made an exception and do a regame anyway. I can understand Nestea didn't dare to pause because he was occupied and unsure if it was intentional with the map or not. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On July 13 2012 00:39 shadymmj wrote: if byun's base had a depot and nestea's didn't, then maybe you can claim it's unfair, but the situation was the same for both. it's unfortunate, yes, nestea should have noticed it, maybe. but it's not right to call out a player for using a winning strategy. dat logic. yes of course because byun was highly at risk to getting blocked off by spine crawlers in the commonly executed double spawning pool spine rush no one is calling a player out... except maybe it was a cheesy ass strat people are calling gom out for using a map that is missing a key component that was instituted for balance's sake | ||
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On July 13 2012 01:07 Markwerf wrote: Nestea should have paused and asked for a regame with the proper map the moment he got bunker blocked. Complaining after you have lost is ok but GomTV is stuck at that point as they can't do a regame anymore as that would be unfair to Byun. It's such a rare situation though that perhaps they could have made an exception and do a regame anyway. I can understand Nestea didn't dare to pause because he was occupied and unsure if it was intentional with the map or not. no, nestea would have needed to ask for re-game as soon as he scouted no depot he can't wait till the bunkers are down and go 'OMG' and this 'not allowed to pause excuse' is a nogo. He has the 'nestea' award, he knows GOM doesn't give auto-losses like that | ||
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GeNeSiDe
United Kingdom354 Posts
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
Goms response is very appropriate, since there was no complaint during the game there is nothing we can do. | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On July 13 2012 01:08 ohampatu wrote: no, nestea would have needed to ask for re-game as soon as he scouted no depot he can't wait till the bunkers are down and go 'OMG' and this 'not allowed to pause excuse' is a nogo. He has the 'nestea' award, he knows GOM doesn't give auto-losses like that You are absolutely incorrect, and Gom admins aren't that stupid. It's the same as if the maps have wrong positions, if your scout doesn't arrive at the right place, and you find them 1 minute later in a position it's not supposed to be possible to be at and you ask for a pause, Gom isn't going to say "trololo too late man you should have known!" | ||
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Griffith`
714 Posts
Chokes/ramps/abuses/cliff drops/map imbalances are no where NEAR as abusive as they were in BW jesus christ User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Griffith`
714 Posts
On July 13 2012 00:58 Marooned wrote: And how is a zerg ever supposed to abuse a ramp with no neutral depot? But yeah, it was a winning strategy. Kinda pathetic, but some are willing to do anything for a win, you cant really blame them for it. In the end it was GOMs fault, not the abuser. And how Terran ever supposed to abuse a late game zerg with no good T3 units But yeah, it was a winning strategy. Kinda pathetic, but some are willing to do anything for a win, you cant really blame them for it. In the end it was Blizzard's fault, not the abuser. See what I did there? | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On July 13 2012 01:13 Griffith` wrote: SC2 nerds are such cry babies about these "map imbalances" lol Chokes/ramps/abuses/cliff drops/map imbalances are no where NEAR as abusive as they were in BW jesus christ You're only allowed to talk shit about SC2 in the BW forums. They may moderate you if you do it here. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On July 13 2012 01:13 Griffith` wrote: SC2 nerds are such cry babies about these "map imbalances" lol Chokes/ramps/abuses/cliff drops/map imbalances are no where NEAR as abusive as they were in BW jesus christ You cannot compare it tough, units simply work different. Weren't zerglings more powerful and marines weaker overal? Not sure here but if that is true that alone majorly effects bunker rushes. | ||
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