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TheKnighter
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada10 Posts
June 26 2012 23:15 GMT
#1
Hey guys making this thread because i have heard many different opinions on mouse speed/dpi etc.

I know of course it is partially preference, but also im sure there are certain reasons for certain settings!

So my question is, what DPI do you guys recommend? And what speeds in starcraft and control panel settings, also mouse acceleration setting (yes or no?)

Thanks for everyone who helps! :D

Knighter
501TFX
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 23:21:05
June 26 2012 23:20 GMT
#2
Well .. I don't think there's a special mouse configuration, which is the best, soo .. I'm just going with mine:

Deathadder: 3500 DPI (Sensivity about 8/10) and NO mouse acceleration .. only that word lets me cringe up my chair.
In game I just turned the custom mouse settings off, so my desktop and ingame settings are the same.

I think the most important thing is, how comfortable it is TO YOU, and that you are used to it. So it's actually not a good idea to change the configuration too often, because you have to get used to it, to become good with it.
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-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
June 26 2012 23:27 GMT
#3
Yeah mine is similar to the above guy's, I use a Abyssus 3500 DPI with sensitivity 7.5/10
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 23:27:49
June 26 2012 23:27 GMT
#4
Mouse acceleration is bad...it means exactly what it says:

Your mouse will accelerate (or increase in velocity) the longer and faster you move it.. which is pretty bad for being precise.. because it's random as to how fast you move and how far etc

As far as DPI/Speed.. most people I've talked to recommend Speed 6 and then changing DPI settings to work on your sensitivity. (As well as in game in StarCraft)
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pksens
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom156 Posts
June 26 2012 23:27 GMT
#5
Okay, I keep posting this in these threads (use the search bar, it's been asked over and over).

DPI is just a sensitivity tool, not an accuracy tool. Do not use 3500 DPI and lower SC2 ingame sens to accomodate for it, use 51-54% in game SC2, 6/11 in Windows or lower (higher is less accurate), and set your DPI to whatever you feel comfortable with. And for goodness sake, don't even think about accceleration.

Most pro players would use a rather fast speed, but some don't.

If you feel that you have to use the max DPI of your mouse, AND increase your windows cursor speed above 6/11, chances are you are way too fast imo and on the extreme ends of effective control. For example, I can comfortably use 6/11 and a DPI of 500-600. Yes, that low, and I can use it pretty fast too given I'm a fps whore..

TheKnighter
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada10 Posts
June 26 2012 23:28 GMT
#6
Thank you for the feedback so far! :D
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 26 2012 23:28 GMT
#7
As far as DPI goes, I've heard a few pros say it doesn't really matter at all. It's all about what you find comfortable and what you're accustomed to.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 26 2012 23:30 GMT
#8
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=174311

The short answer is, acceleration off (no "enhanced pointer precision"), speed setting in Windows at exactly the middle (slider on 6/11), SC2 at 51%. Set the DPI of your mouse to whatever you like most.
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iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 23:33:13
June 26 2012 23:31 GMT
#9
1000DPI $10 Dynex 6/11 windows sensitivity, sc2 sensitivity off, Windows mouse acceleration off (the enhanced precision thingy) and regedited windows mouse acceleration off.

I think the biggest thing you can do to improve accuracy is turn off ALL mouse acceleration, but that requires some registry editing.

Also there is a thread on TL on how to edit out the mouse acceleration.

EDIT: When you adjust SC2 sensitivity you are OVERRIDING windows sensitivity, so its best to just leave it off.
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Deleted User 12257
Profile Joined October 2004
Spain112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 23:44:35
June 26 2012 23:43 GMT
#10
I think its more likely to try some settings, and use whatever you feel more comfortable. Me, for instance, use a Microsoft Optical Mouse 1000 (a $15 mouse) with sensitivity on 6/11, SC2 sensitivity off and enhanced precision on (acceleration).

I tried without acceleration, but not being able to adjust DPI made me feel slower, so I just use 6/11 and acceleration .
uoeahtns
Profile Joined February 2012
52 Posts
June 26 2012 23:44 GMT
#11
I've always preferred higher sensitivities. It's possible to reach the same accuracy you would with a low sensitivity, but impossible to reach the same speed you would have with a high sensitivity. This may be an impractical reason, but it's what I tell myself anyway.
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
June 26 2012 23:53 GMT
#12
i play on 800 dpi, 7/11 sensitivity, and 70% in game. i guess it's about the same in and out of game.
VectorCereal
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada54 Posts
June 27 2012 00:09 GMT
#13
2000 DPI, 50 or 51% on sc2 and whatever is the middle for windows settings (6/11?). Used 800 DPI for a long time, then one day I decided to slowly increase it over time and maxed out my mouse at 2000 after a while.
Cocoba
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada352 Posts
June 27 2012 00:23 GMT
#14
I found that that the Deathadder and a mac are really finicky together. The sensitivity changes drastically when you move the slider for any sensitivity setting (deathadder driver, mac mouse settings, sc2 ingame sensitivity). So I play on 3% ingame sensitivity, minimum mac setting, and adjust my sensitivity with the driver and keep that my manipulated and the other my constants. 3500 dpi btw.
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gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
June 27 2012 00:30 GMT
#15
Logitech g9x, no grip, 800 dpi, no acceleration. Mvp style.
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PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia987 Posts
June 27 2012 00:40 GMT
#16
People are actually playing sc2 with 3500 dpi? Are you guys playing on a 40inch monitor or are you just insane?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure you'd rarely be able to accurately click on a worker/zergling/marine without having to slow down your entire gameplay trying to steer your cursor onto the target.

FYI I've spoken to alot of people who think because they are using the Razer DA 3500DPI edition that their DPI is 3500 when it's actually on 800-1200. If you're going to post your mouse settings please makes sure you actually know them guys!
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Maxil
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 00:57:14
June 27 2012 00:54 GMT
#17
4000 dpi, 4 sens in razer driver, 6/11 sens in windows, sens disabled in sc2 24inch lcd

But it has been said and will be said again, what is most important is what is comfortable. You can reliably get effective with any combination of settings, really


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RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 01:05:38
June 27 2012 01:02 GMT
#18
For SC2, the only important mouse settings are to make sure that windows mouse settings is 6/11 and SC2 ingame sensitivity is 51%. That's the best way to make sure that your mouse doesn't skip any pixels.

After you got those settings locked down, play around with your DPI * DriverSensitivity in order to determine how fast you want your cursor to move. It's almost completely personal preference. Low DPI * DriverSensitivty produces high accuracy, but slow speed, and causes more fatigue. High DPI * DriverSensitivity produces low accuracy, but fast speed, and causes less fatigue.

It all depends upon how you play your SC2. Do you play short, intense game sessions? Then probably low DPI * DriverSensitivity is good for you. Do you play long, grueling game sessions? Then probably high DPI * DriverSensitivity is good for you.

It also depends upon the size of your monitor and its resolution. If you're a QXC or Axslav who play on a low resolution 4:3 monitor, then you need less DPI than people who use high resolution 16 : 9 monitors.

These are my personal settings:
Razer Deathadder 3.5G
Monitor: 16 : 9 1920x1080p
Windows Sensitivity: 6/11
SC2 ingame Sensitivity: 51%
DPI * DriverSensitivity: 3500 base DPI * 55% Driver Sensitivity = 1950 effective DPI
Glockateer
Profile Joined June 2009
United States254 Posts
June 27 2012 01:10 GMT
#19
Use 400-1000 dpi depending on your resolution and preference. Keep 1:1 ratio. You're welcome.

Don't listen to the people saying higher dpi or lowering windows/in-game/driver settings.
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Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 01:31:53
June 27 2012 01:29 GMT
#20
1600 dpi, no acceleration, 51% ingame speed. 1920x1080, windows 6/11

unplayable for fps and i lower ingame settings speed in fps games. For browsing and osu it's must for me and I prefer it on sc2 too.
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LJ
Profile Joined January 2012
203 Posts
June 27 2012 02:14 GMT
#21
You can turn sensitivity off now in Starcraft 2 and use windows senitivity instead - if you have starcraft sensitivity set to anything it will overwrite the 6/11 in windows.
If your mouse is for example 1000dpi and you change the windows sensitivity from 6/11 in windows down to a lower setting then the mouse is running at less than 1000dpi
Lysergic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States355 Posts
June 27 2012 02:15 GMT
#22
Logitech G9x without shell
1800 DPI
Sensitivity: 50% (51% in-game)
Acceleration: 0
Polling rate: 1000
1920x1080
Zenon
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom66 Posts
June 27 2012 02:49 GMT
#23
Mouse: SteelSeries Sensei
Monitor: 16 : 9 1920x1080p
Windows Sensitivity: 6/11
SC2 Sensitivity: 51%
DPI: 1600
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Beorning
Profile Joined June 2011
United States243 Posts
June 27 2012 02:54 GMT
#24
If only there was an enormous thread about mice somewhere!










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Orange Goblin
Profile Joined May 2010
218 Posts
June 27 2012 10:43 GMT
#25
On June 27 2012 08:27 pksens wrote:
Okay, I keep posting this in these threads (use the search bar, it's been asked over and over).

DPI is just a sensitivity tool, not an accuracy tool. Do not use 3500 DPI and lower SC2 ingame sens to accomodate for it, use 51-54% in game SC2, 6/11 in Windows or lower (higher is less accurate), and set your DPI to whatever you feel comfortable with. And for goodness sake, don't even think about accceleration.

Most pro players would use a rather fast speed, but some don't.

If you feel that you have to use the max DPI of your mouse, AND increase your windows cursor speed above 6/11, chances are you are way too fast imo and on the extreme ends of effective control. For example, I can comfortably use 6/11 and a DPI of 500-600. Yes, that low, and I can use it pretty fast too given I'm a fps whore..



This guy knows what is what.

DPI has nothing to do with how accurate your mouse is, use it as a sensitivity tool. Personally, I'm at 1800 DPI on my Abyssus (6/11, 52%) @ 1920*1080.

This is probably a bit slow for most, but I'm an old CS 1.6 player. I'm used to using at least some of my gigantic mouse pad.

Remember that the speed of your cursor on a specific DPI is relative to your resolution, so higher DPI is for use with higher resolutions, in general.
Inex
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria443 Posts
June 27 2012 10:53 GMT
#26
I use my deathadder at 900 dpi, instead of 3500, with windows sensitivity at 50% and ingame sensitivity settings at 72%. As already stated, if you want your mouse to move with the speed of light get a high dpi mouse, but if you have used a normal mouse until now, just get the one with a comfortable design and around 1000 dpi.
OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
June 27 2012 11:04 GMT
#27
To maximize my precision I use the lowest DPI where I can still comfortably reach the whole screen without moving my wrist, on my current resolution that's 1400 DPI. If for some reason I have to play a game at a different resolution I do the math and change the DPI to preserve the same pointer speed across the screen. Muscle memory is a beautiful thing.
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 11:31:11
June 27 2012 11:24 GMT
#28
I like the tiny touch of acceleration I added with the razer driver.

Sensitivity wise, it me takes just under 3cm of mouse movement to move cursor from left to right of screen.

* I turned starcraft sensitivity settings off so that my settings are the same, desktop or game.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
June 27 2012 11:28 GMT
#29
Why do i always use the highest sens in games. Uhm i haven't found anyone else doing it ;8
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EneMecH
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom218 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 11:42:26
June 27 2012 11:41 GMT
#30
3000-5000 DPI depending on my mood.

Sensitivty control turned off in sc2.

1360x768 Monitor.

All settings on default.

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Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
June 27 2012 12:23 GMT
#31
The only correct answer is this:

Your mouse should move as quickly, and as little, as your hand/eye can be accurate with.

If you can handle a crazy high sensitivity with perfect accuracy, great, technically your movements will be faster as there's less travel distance.

But if you're purposely slowing your hand, or missing clicks/correcting clicks constantly then that's hardly efficient and you should move down to a sensitivity where you are accurate.

For me personally, on my naga, this is 5600 DPI, and a couple ticks down in mouse settings, with SC2 sensitivity turned off completely. In my mind, using SC2 sensitivity adjustment on top of the other ones just makes you learn a new sensitivity to play.
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
June 27 2012 12:57 GMT
#32
Good tips here - but the main one is 'set whatever feels best to you' - what may work for person A , may not work with person B.
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EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 13:24:45
June 27 2012 13:23 GMT
#33
I often switch from 3500 and 1800 when playing zerg or terran. When I play on 1800, I move my keyboard off the side of my desk. On 3500, I try and isolate my mouse hand so I can be as accurate as possible while hitting my marine splits perfectly. Using 6/11 on windows settings, starcraft sensitivity off, 1920x1080 screen.

edit: forgot to mention I use both a zowie mico and a recently bought abyssus, these are the settings for the abyssus.
AllSalesFinal
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States211 Posts
June 27 2012 13:36 GMT
#34
2400 DPI, no accel, 6/11 windows and I disabled in-game mouse sensitivity.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 13:39:11
June 27 2012 13:38 GMT
#35
Logitech G9x, no shell, 1800 dpi, no acceleration, 51% in game sens, 1920x1080.
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
June 27 2012 13:44 GMT
#36
1900*1080 resolution.
I play with 2200 dpi, but about 33% ingame sensitivity.
No accelaretion from any software obviously.

I prefer a bit of speed for RTS games in general, and I'm used to that amount of dpi for just my general browsing etc. anyways.
For different genres I change it up a lot.
grapesludge
Profile Joined April 2012
United States28 Posts
June 27 2012 17:19 GMT
#37
On June 27 2012 21:23 Felnarion wrote:
The only correct answer is this:

Your mouse should move as quickly, and as little, as your hand/eye can be accurate with.

If you can handle a crazy high sensitivity with perfect accuracy, great, technically your movements will be faster as there's less travel distance.

But if you're purposely slowing your hand, or missing clicks/correcting clicks constantly then that's hardly efficient and you should move down to a sensitivity where you are accurate.

For me personally, on my naga, this is 5600 DPI, and a couple ticks down in mouse settings, with SC2 sensitivity turned off completely. In my mind, using SC2 sensitivity adjustment on top of the other ones just makes you learn a new sensitivity to play.


I'm sorry. But you don't use 5600 DPI. That's insane. Most of the professional SC2 players have their DPI set between 800-1600. I just set my steelseries sensei to 5600, and it's impossible that you use that unless you really lower the sensitivity in the windows settings, which is hurting you.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 18:51:39
June 27 2012 18:18 GMT
#38
Like someone posted already, there's a thread about this already. Even if there was to be another thread (I don't think all mice threads should be bundled into one), it shouldn't be in Starcraft 2 general chat.

DPI/sensitivity depends EXTREMELY on your screen resolution and personal preference. The guy saying it shouldn't be above 1000 is a complete ignoramus.

On June 28 2012 02:19 grapesludge wrote:
I'm sorry. But you don't use 5600 DPI. That's insane. Most of the professional SC2 players have their DPI set between 800-1600. I just set my steelseries sensei to 5600, and it's impossible that you use that unless you really lower the sensitivity in the windows settings, which is hurting you.
1. That's you that can't handle 5600 DPI, not him — not that I believe 5600 is effective for anyone at average resolutions, but I can't say that for fact.
2. He said he was running lower than 5600 DPI from what I understood
3. If you have a large enough screen resolution, it is most certainly not a problem to have such high DPI, but such high resolution setups are not common or at least not used much in SC2 (multi-monitor)
4. Lowering windows mouse sensitivity is not necessarily detrimental at all, but it is effectively lowering the DPI so a reduced DPI wouldn't still count as a high DPI. (raising windows sensitivity is the problem that doesn't really help anything)
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LavendrGooms
Profile Joined May 2011
United States134 Posts
June 27 2012 18:29 GMT
#39
It's crazy to see how low some of the DPI numbers people are using... Well at least they seem low. I thought most people would be using somewhere around the 3000 range. Not the 1000 range.

Mouse: Razer DeathAdder
Windows Speed: 6/11
SC2 Speed: 51%
Monitor Size: 1920x1080
DPI: 3500

I can understand using a lower DPI for a FPS, but for an RTS? That seems too slow. Would love to have some pros chime in and see what they use.
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Levi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany45 Posts
June 27 2012 18:34 GMT
#40
1600 dpi, no acceleration, ^60% at starcarft, 1080p and 6/11 in win
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
June 27 2012 18:43 GMT
#41
You shouldn't have your mouse speed any faster than it takes to not have to pick up your mouse in order to re-position it.
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
June 27 2012 21:30 GMT
#42
51 to 54% in SC2 itself. This gives you a 1:1 ratio of movement with the screen so no pixel skipping.

6/11 windows (default)

800 dpi.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
June 27 2012 21:36 GMT
#43
6/11 Windows
52 or 53% in SC2 (Can't remember which, it's inside the 1:1 movement ratio which is the main point.)
Maximum (5600 dpi) on my Razer Naga. And I personally feel that I could use an even faster one...
Using 1920x1080 resolution w/ a 24" screen.

But as several players have said, you should use no acceleration and get the no pixel skipping ratio, after that it's just up to you to use a speed you are comfortable, but accurate enough with.
Maxil
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 21:47:07
June 27 2012 21:44 GMT
#44
I think some are forgetting that all these settings aren't universal, especially if your mouse software has sens settings of it's own as well. On my razer lachesis if I brign it down to 1000dpi, with windows at 6/11 and in razer driver 5/10 my mouse pad (exactmat) isn't large enough and I'm having to wave my whole arm around. (24in lcd 1920*1080) That just doesn't fly with me, as I prefer little to no wrist movement at all. So 4000 dpi 6/11 windows and about 4/10 in razer is my sweet spot.

Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
June 27 2012 21:56 GMT
#45
Just find out whats comfortable for you.

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6500 dpi
6/11 windows mouse sensitivity
Sensitivity turned off in sc2
1680x1050 resoloution
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AGIANTSMURF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1232 Posts
June 27 2012 22:08 GMT
#46
this belongs in tech support if anything, but you dont need to play at anything higher than 2000 dpi

i play at 1800 with 51% sensitivity on sc2
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 27 2012 22:11 GMT
#47
mouse thread!
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