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[...]Chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
46 Posts
January 19 2006 05:10 GMT
#161
hmm, you have some intersting opinions ack1027
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
January 19 2006 05:12 GMT
#162
I agree with ack1027 on this subject.

1.6 is better in nearly all gameplay aspects compared to source, and especially in all those considered important by people who enjoy multiplayer matches at high level.

Chraej, you don't have to take it personally and others don't need to turn this into a flameparty. If you enjoy CS:S more than 1.6, then play it. But don't try to make the game into something it isn't, ie a game suitable for high level multiplayer matches between teams.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
January 19 2006 05:16 GMT
#163
On January 19 2006 13:21 MyLostTemple wrote:
ack1027 just stop talking

you're making the 1.6 players look dumb


Oh and wtf are you? On a cal-p reformed team with a 4 digit steamid?

Chraej is the only retard here.
[...]Chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-19 06:02:10
January 19 2006 05:17 GMT
#164
im not taking it personally, i kind of feel bad for acky, BUT 1.6 only dominates now because it is, of course, the older nostalgic version, people havnt had time to adapt yet. How long did the transistion from 1.5 to 1.6 take? people wouldnt leave 1.5 b/c they didnt trust 1.6, the same is happening now. Im not insulting you ( luhh) or slamming your opinion, but i believe the gameplay is identical, I found an easy transition from 1.5/6 (didnt play much .6) to source, the proof that the game play is identical was contributed by ack, i.e. the finals were held in source and the 1.6 team dominated.


to acky:
Main Entry: 1re·tard
Pronunciation: ri-'tärd
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French or Latin; Middle French retarder, from Latin retardare, from re- + tardus slow
transitive senses
1 : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : IMPEDE
2 : to delay academic progress by failure to promote

hmm sounds like 1.6 to me, advancement obviously being css

what exactly makes 1.6 better than souce besides the ability to run on virtually any computer? all i can see are improvements, i have PLAYED both a great deal, it would be different if i came out of nowhere with my opinions as...it seems some people do

hmph, i was looking at steams CS statistics, where is 1.6 even? do they list it? all i see is general overview of all cs(which was mostly source stuff when i clicked it), source then cz
3threal[EoC]
Profile Joined June 2005
Canada388 Posts
January 19 2006 06:16 GMT
#165
--- Nuked ---
Id hit anything with an ass as big as that dress. - quote decafchicken
[...]Chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-19 06:39:32
January 19 2006 06:34 GMT
#166
On January 12 2006 18:00 Ack1027 wrote:

Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself. There is no way Source is going to be the future of Counter-Strike.

what about this 1.6 player

p.s. my post you quoted was showing hitboxes and Eexamples from each game, not skill...seeing as it was about how the hitboxes were not exact it was more or less luck that there happened to be three hs (just random youtube vids.)

the point to all that was (maybe it wasnt easy to understand) 1.6 doesnt haev any better hit boxes (notice where the crosshairs are while the players are getting kills, ESP in that ss i took, which shows the guy with the pistol getting a headshot, while his crosshairs are very far to the right of the head in a splatter of blood which is,infact, not a head), and the sv hitbox vid was not even accurate b/c the hitboxes it shows are not where the actual hit boxes are located
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-19 08:22:45
January 19 2006 08:16 GMT
#167
On January 19 2006 15:34 [...]Chraej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2006 18:00 Ack1027 wrote:

Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself. There is no way Source is going to be the future of Counter-Strike.

what about this 1.6 player

p.s. my post you quoted was showing hitboxes and Eexamples from each game, not skill...seeing as it was about how the hitboxes were not exact it was more or less luck that there happened to be three hs (just random youtube vids.)

the point to all that was (maybe it wasnt easy to understand) 1.6 doesnt haev any better hit boxes (notice where the crosshairs are while the players are getting kills, ESP in that ss i took, which shows the guy with the pistol getting a headshot, while his crosshairs are very far to the right of the head in a splatter of blood which is,infact, not a head), and the sv hitbox vid was not even accurate b/c the hitboxes it shows are not where the actual hit boxes are located

What was your latency, server ticrate, your rates, your ms, server FPS, did you have ex_interp 0 (default ex_interp is 0.1, which is acually 0.09 seconds off the targets true position if you have 100 in cmd and updaterate. They changed this in 1.6 from 1.5, to get rid of the ex_interp abuse. Ironically the situation was reversed, with 0.1 corresponding to targets appearing before they do, but the accuracy is worse of course.)etc etc.

Also, the pistol headshot was viewed by HLTV, meaning there's quite a bit bigger delay than your ineyes demo. That awp thing, if you shoot fast dragshots, then you will often find yourself shooting faster than the game or server will notice, and things will look odd. Also, AWP hits are often misaligned where the true shot is and where you will see graphically where your bullit hit. This doesn't mean your AWP shot is less accurate, it's just a graphical feedback issue.

Myself, I never have over 30 latency no matter what swedish clan I play, and usually around 10 ms, since most warservers are on 100MBit lines and have good settings, and overall swedish internet is good. The game is VERY accurate for swedish players in general.

It's not the fault of the game, it's the fault of bad internet and settings. Stop this already.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
[...]Chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
46 Posts
January 19 2006 08:27 GMT
#168

luhh im not sure what your trying to say...but the part i got was about the time a shot registered on hltv, the hl tv delay is not that kind of delay, its not lag, its relay delay, it would be shown the same way as when it occured, unless your saying it somehow changed the way it occured from one point to another within the same footage. I did not make these videos.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 19 2006 09:25 GMT
#169
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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
January 19 2006 10:03 GMT
#170
On January 19 2006 17:27 [...]Chraej wrote:

luhh im not sure what your trying to say...but the part i got was about the time a shot registered on hltv, the hl tv delay is not that kind of delay, its not lag, its relay delay, it would be shown the same way as when it occured, unless your saying it somehow changed the way it occured from one point to another within the same footage. I did not make these videos.

No... *sigh* I'm not talking about that delay. The HLTV still has to connect to the server, and it is spectating, and it is often under load as well itself, and since it's spectating, you have to take into consideration lag from the HLTV to server as well as that between player and server etc...

I'm giving up now.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
January 19 2006 11:35 GMT
#171
I have a question about source. I used to have the game on my comp and I have a cs:s account and everything but I don't have the game at the moment. Is there any way I could download it through steam?
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 19 2006 12:06 GMT
#172
On January 19 2006 14:12 Luhh wrote:
I agree with ack1027 on this subject.

1.6 is better in nearly all gameplay aspects compared to source, and especially in all those considered important by people who enjoy multiplayer matches at high level.

Chraej, you don't have to take it personally and others don't need to turn this into a flameparty. If you enjoy CS:S more than 1.6, then play it. But don't try to make the game into something it isn't, ie a game suitable for high level multiplayer matches between teams.


This basically sums it up. If you know the game at a high level, you'll know what Ack and Luhh are saying. It's like bowling with gutters versus bowling with bumpers; obviously the bowling with gutters is more suitable for high levels of competition, even if both can be fun for the normal person.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 19 2006 12:06 GMT
#173
On January 19 2006 20:35 BG1 wrote:
I have a question about source. I used to have the game on my comp and I have a cs:s account and everything but I don't have the game at the moment. Is there any way I could download it through steam?

Yes, I believe you can. As long as you have the account, just log in and download it.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-19 12:30:33
January 19 2006 12:30 GMT
#174
While we're at it, you wanna voice me in #teamliquid klogon? ^ -^

Me = Vicious[KanG]
3threal[EoC]
Profile Joined June 2005
Canada388 Posts
January 19 2006 13:12 GMT
#175
--- Nuked ---
Id hit anything with an ass as big as that dress. - quote decafchicken
[...]Chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
46 Posts
January 19 2006 14:54 GMT
#176
AH HA, of course, klogon IS a 1.6 sympathetic...i should have and or did know...um unban me now plz, that really isnt fair.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 20 2006 11:26 GMT
#177
No, you were banned for being stupid, this thread just tipped me off to it. The temp bans the other kids got are usually because they are forum veterans, you're not. Frankly, for me, I could care less if you were here or gone; I'm just not banning you because you seem to like being here. Anyone else, they would have banned your ass. Now, stfu and maybe I'll overlook you, 'cause right now I really want to push it.
[...]Chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-20 13:16:12
January 20 2006 13:10 GMT
#178
On January 20 2006 20:26 Klogon wrote:
Anyone else, they would have banned your ass. .


ban me for what?

i am not doing/ havnt done anything wrong, it isnt fair for you to just slap a ban on my accoutn b/c you dont like my opion/me telling you you dont like my opionion. why would someone who hates css come into a thread about css? its just looking for a fight, am i wrong? i would like to know what "being stupid" constitutes so i can avoid it in the future
thx.

with love
chraej


p.s. when i type "chraej" into search and look at the topics, it is a bunch of discussions, which is what a forum is for, which equals confusion arrow pointing to ban.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 20 2006 13:21 GMT
#179
Welcome to TL.net, where you can be banned because we simply don't like you. Read the 10 commandments, and you'll find out we don't tolerate people/things that "bring down" our forums. In fact, all the forum veterans agree with this, and expect it.

Understand this, or you won't last long.
[...]Chraej
Profile Joined January 2006
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-20 13:31:36
January 20 2006 13:27 GMT
#180
"You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect"
...
"We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course..."

how have i brought the forums down?

so i can discuss things as long as they go they way you want them to? do you want everyone to have the same opinion on all subjects?
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