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Yep..this'll be my new CS:S thread. Who plays, and where do you live. Note, if you live in the USA, post which side.
I'm playing again, USA-West.. Getting the skills back up and what not. Playing it when I'm not playing WoW..
I remember there was a few guys who played on here. But haven't heard anything in the past 40 years so.. yeah. I saw a guy named NewbSybot, and asked if it was the guy on here..but he was a newb yo, and that guy always talked like he was good..so maybe it wasn't him.
Oh yeah, post if you are good too.. and if anyone knows what channels on irc you go to to do those pug matches. Damn Evade, maybe he still reads these forums and can tell me :O
I'm average - decent..but unfortunately, I've been playing free money servers and use awp only..so that won't get me far if I try pugging it :[
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51507 Posts
I play regularly
I play on Australian servers (Duh)
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#no-mercy on gamesurge
i play daily on east servers
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oh yeah, hey dronebobo..you ever get CS:S?
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Norway10161 Posts
I play some, but will have horrible lag and not be able to play with you
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I play the game, I'm not good actually I suck but I can beat bots regularly , when I play against others I usually get frustrated ALT-f4 and go play halo2. About servers I didnt even know there was a difference, I just open steam and pick the first game available.
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I dont play a lot I play from time to time though
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LOL some noob just said 1.6 is good LOL, poor noobs think they are right, i dont know why but they relaly suck, i played it again like a month ago ( quit right after 1.5 became 1.6 b/c 1.6 is gay) and it SUCKS, but i started playing again when css came out b/c its really freaking good, i play scoutzknivez alot and or random public servers
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Well, someone is noob because he doesn't think like you? Or because he plays 1.6? Personally, I do not see what is so wrong with 1.6, it is still one of the most played version.
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1.6 is the more supported game and was named World tour game of the year by CPL.
1.6 is the better competitive game. In fact after Starcraft I'm pretty damn sure 1.6 has the next largest and active community.
I play both but I am completely 1.6 now because our clan wants to go up in CAL right now.
1.6 takes more skill than source I don't want to hear any arguing.
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scoutzknivez/awpmap/etc are the equivalent of moneymaps.
I prefer 1.6 to source but don't play either.
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i was in love with CS beta to 1.6 for a while, and played some source.... I was actually pretty good back in the day, but only as a pub guy... never really got into leagues or anything 
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yeah, i do okay in pub..me and a couple guys on tl.net did some scrims..was cool. want to do it again
then again, that was on 1.6..which i can no longer play and was/is/will always be gay
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On December 06 2005 16:04 Chraej wrote:
LOL some noob just said 1.6 is good LOL, poor noobs think they are right, i dont know why but they relaly suck, i played it again like a month ago ( quit right after 1.5 became 1.6 b/c 1.6 is gay) and it SUCKS, but i started playing again when css came out b/c its really freaking good, i play scoutzknivez alot and or random public servers
Bnet kiddy strikes again......
Source is more fun than 1.6 though mainly because it's so fast paced and you get awesome dying animations
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yeah i was one of the guys that played with you back then, i think it was only me you evade and midian. Im Canada - west so i should be fine for ping.
I have both source and 1.6
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mrmin123
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On December 06 2005 17:57 LetMeBeWithYou wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2005 16:04 Chraej wrote:
LOL some noob just said 1.6 is good LOL, poor noobs think they are right, i dont know why but they relaly suck, i played it again like a month ago ( quit right after 1.5 became 1.6 b/c 1.6 is gay) and it SUCKS, but i started playing again when css came out b/c its really freaking good, i play scoutzknivez alot and or random public servers Bnet kiddy strikes again...... Source is more fun than 1.6 though mainly because it's so fast paced and you get awesome dying animations
Actually, they fixed 1.6 so it didn't require a supercomputer to play it about 6 months or a bit more after the official release. Today it's better and more accurate, has better flashes and smokes than 1.5
I know, I loved 1.5 myself (it was the one I began to play competitively in), but the only advantage of this version compared to 1.6 is framerate.
Someone said CS:S was faster paced than 1.6? 1.6 is quite a bit faster, more accurate, recoil isn't as random, no useless objects in the way cluttering the maps amongst other things. Sure if you think it's fun and has cool "death animations" (there aren't any - havoc) go ahead. Whatever is your preferance.
Just because something is newer doesn't mean it's better. Source is valves very own game engine where as 1.6 uses id-games modified quake 1 engine. That says about all...
Edit: And yes I've played several matches ladders leagues in source as well.
Why are people playing broodwar even today? There are lots of new shiny glossy games out there...
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people are playing broodwar, my young and inexperienced friend, because it is not a downgrade from a more spectacular game with much better graphics and UP TO DATE PHYSICS. Because something is "newer" doesnt make it better maybe be true but that doesnt apply to counter strike in the least, 1.6 was never better than anything, therefore how could it be better than source...thats right, it cant. Now tell me why, in reason form, 1.6 is better than source from any possible angle. I think you have made it plain and clear w/ the info on the quake engine that 1.6 blows
(aka quake = lol + cry)
p.s. people are ALSO still playing BW b/c its balanced, just like css is balanced, just like 1.6 is not or do only use the AWP also...
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I play 1.6!
Ill start playing CS:S as soon as everyone else starts playing CS:S.
In about a year or so I would imagine people changing from 1.6 to source.
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my problem is all they crying and complaining that the 1.6er's do, source > 1.6, your right soon they will switch over and see that its the SAME GAME but better...untill the next version, then they will do the same thing. I went from 1.5 to source for the most part and i think its fantastic
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Bleh... After rethinking, I'm not gonna go there and explain.
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i played Source with Jamie some months ago, watch out, he's fuckin' good =D
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On December 06 2005 11:49 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I play regularly
I play on Australian servers (Duh)
Are you not to young for that? =P
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On December 07 2005 06:14 [pG]Archi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2005 11:49 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I play regularly
I play on Australian servers (Duh) Are you not to young for that? =P why does every jackass make a comment about this kid's age in every single thread he posts in? give it a fuckin rest already..jesus
I didn't like 1.6 as much as Source.. didn't like the fact that I'd duck and spray into a chest, while the kid is missing, and he has a chance to point down and shoot my head and kill me before he dies, after taking 5 shots. No thank you. The scopes look stupid too :D
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
On December 06 2005 23:45 maVi wrote:
i played Source with Jamie some months ago, watch out, he's fuckin' good =D
we should play again! i haven't played in months but it's fun now and then 8D
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yeah i think midian was the best out of us when we used to play..too bad he has like 150 ping on our servers lol
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
come play on european servers, then i'll really make you guys look bad 8D!
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I like source much better than 1.6, but I don't play competitively. I play on Australian servers, mostly Gamearena and Internode.
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i used to play source, but too much bf2 raped my skills at it. BF2 makes you a worse gamer at everything overall. I play some q4 to stay on edge every now and then. When i did play source though, i was good. Nothing amazing, but i always came in top 3 if not #1 on pub servers.. Never participated in the clan scene.
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i hate all battlefield games... sooo...sloowwww....paaaacccceeedd... 
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On December 07 2005 08:06 hasuwar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2005 06:14 [pG]Archi wrote:On December 06 2005 11:49 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I play regularly
I play on Australian servers (Duh) Are you not to young for that? =P why does every jackass make a comment about this kid's age in every single thread he posts in? give it a fuckin rest already..jesus I didn't like 1.6 as much as Source.. didn't like the fact that I'd duck and spray into a chest, while the kid is missing, and he has a chance to point down and shoot my head and kill me before he dies, after taking 5 shots. No thank you. The scopes look stupid too :D
Im not a jackass and I don't care about his age. I only thought the game is for people who are at least 16 years old.
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there is no age limit to playing video games. all up to personal or parental discretion. for example my seven year old brother has been playing counterstrike since he was five, and he has become extremely apt at shooting faces. yes, this is my fault.
1.3 > 1.4/1.5 > 1.6 > CSS
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51507 Posts
and hey i played resident evil when i was 6
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my first #1 on a server ! woot..dust fest
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Chraej I like how you completely ignored my post you fucking moron.
1.6 is like bw and source is like wc3.
The recoil system is completely different, flashbangs are about the cheapest things I've ever seen, you could seriously win every single eco round by your team just stocking on flashes, not to mention they do one damage now. There is a reason the best teams in the world aka 3D, NiP, SK, NoA, Begrip etc all rape 1.6 and source even against the CAL teams that only play source.
It's because 1.6 takes actual skill and reaction time and teamwork. The community is larger, the prizes are larger, the players are better. What more do you want?
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I want good graphics and a better (yes, it is better for me) recoil system :p. I don't care about the competitive scene when it comes to CSS. Also, comparing two completely different games (SC and WC3) with two very similar ones (1.6 and CSS) is dumb.
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i didn't really notice any difference in the physics (ie: recoil) from 1.6 to source... is it significantly different? ;/
and yes, fbs are waaaaaaaaay too fucking cheap in source... they remove your sound, and disorient you for too long...
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51507 Posts
anyone want to set up some game?
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I usually play on
66.150.188.86:27015
64.94.101.77:27015
(going to sleep now tho)
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On December 07 2005 08:19 iD.MidiaN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2005 23:45 maVi wrote:
i played Source with Jamie some months ago, watch out, he's fuckin' good =D we should play again! i haven't played in months but it's fun now and then 8D
same here, haven't played for ages. ;o u still got me on MSN? i'm gonna msg you..
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We should choose a server and all play on it sometime, midian and mavi if you know a good server, share the wealth.
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unfortunately, there isn't one magical server that'll all give us 5 ping
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
what about that GG Client beta thing? we could try that out, not sure how good it works on CSS though
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never even heard of it heh..what is that, strickly peer to peer?
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interesting.. anyone want to try it?
oh yeah, just got banned from my #1 server lol. I think it's a server where you pay to get admin..cuz all the admins there are idiots.
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I felt Source a little laggy at times, even offline.
Unless you have a faster PC, I guess only the skilled or fast reactioned will notice this.
2.8MHz 512MB RAM.
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
i wanna try it sometime hasuwar, but it's 11:15 pm now and i got college tomorrow, i'd like to try it out tomorrow though
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someone pick a server and time where we can play
p.s make sure its source
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
anytime between now and 8 hours from now is cool for me to try this out
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I was always an fps freak, addapted to any fps i played, overcame all and eventually became one of the best or the best. Back in 1.5 i was in fzer0 and was one of the best players, eventually got sponcered and played professionally then got sick to death of it... and a few weeks ago got source, and i was always a fan of oldschool cs and anything that represented it but source>1.5,1.6
sure there are more noobs but it just seems so much better and the sprayability makes it more realistic, less skilled but more skill in the art of spraying, the physics/graphics and the fun factor of the guns in source made me get back into cs..
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On December 09 2005 04:08 iD.MidiaN wrote:
anytime between now and 8 hours from now is cool for me to try this out haha.. i just got up. It's past 12 hours :D
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51507 Posts
same
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51507 Posts
On December 09 2005 08:53 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
I was always an fps freak, addapted to any fps i played, overcame all and eventually became one of the best or the best. Back in 1.5 i was in fzer0 and was one of the best players, eventually got sponcered and played professionally then got sick to death of it... and a few weeks ago got source, and i was always a fan of oldschool cs and anything that represented it but source>1.5,1.6
sure there are more noobs but it just seems so much better and the sprayability makes it more realistic, less skilled but more skill in the art of spraying, the physics/graphics and the fun factor of the guns in source made me get back into cs..
what was your name in fzer0?
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I can't even log onto the damn thing though..I was gonna try it with a friend in maine (across US) buti t just says invalid password every thing i try
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
T_T well i'll play on some US servers i guess, anything is better than nothing
Edit: Give IP !
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51507 Posts
wait, try doing test1 test2 etc
password is the usernames
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well im on test1 so you guys cant take it 
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51507 Posts
anyway... hasu just ran away?
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yeah i was out playing.. got pwned out of control today for some reason. Just wasn't hitting my shots like I have been the past couple weeks :O
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i used to alias alot in fzer0, but i may have used fzer0//AsSaSin the most frequentely.
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someone figure out how to make a LAN game to try out that GG Client..I don't know how
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read the gg client faq thingy, i think that will tell you
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didn't see it in the readme, might be a faq when you open the program i guess..but i gotta get back to work right now. Doh
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( ^ noob)
anyway, someone post a good CSS ip so we can play!!
LAN is local area network
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You have to make a LAN game to use GG client - we all know what LAN is
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mmm, then how are we all supposed to play on it? Someone find a server, i guess the gg client wont work then since you haev to lan, or whatnot
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ill play on any ip someone posts
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it works because the client FAKES a lan connection so you can play directly without a server..
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I play on vato 64.94.101.77:27015
"ok we gotta win this round..this is my last round"
0.4 seconds later
I die. Fuck
see ya in a couple hours
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On December 11 2005 17:13 3threal[EoC] wrote:O RLY?
ermmm...
yes
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I started playing CS:S just yesterday. I play on european servers.
Would be fun to play with you guys.
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Guys, are you using th GG thing ?
Do you play in steam o non steam servers ?
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Belgium9949 Posts
lol I kept the #clear channel on gamesurge alive for another year after you guys stopped the tl.net cs clan
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nayh sry, i dont like how the graphics and game play are lame, no offense, it was good at 1.5...so i'll play you in source or bust. However if i HAD 1.6 i would scrim your team, all at the same time.
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ok, well maybe i'll try to get 1.6 then, i like those odds
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I played CS 1.6 very competitively (cal-m almost p..) and I tried Source.. Source is fun in pub game but do you ever played Source competitively? Its complete crap!
Oh, by the way Chraej, stop acting cool, your a little kid that play random custom maps like scoutknivez and other shit and you don't know what is real team play and aim. I'm propably sure you would cry like a baby if you play vs a GOOD player/team in source or 1.6 (w/e) and that you would say that he hacks...
btw...sorry for my bad english :/
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hmm,i am sorry, i wasnt aware sarcasm was strictly american, since i said i was going to take on five of his team on my own, or is it that you have the "little kid" mentality and cannot understand the concept? anyway they only play 1.6 competitivly still because source is reletivly new, if you know anything about the pro gaming scene for cs, and they should switch sometime in the near future, for obvious reasons (there really are not any VALID arguments against it other than 1.6 players are used to the 1.6 style). I have played both versions so plz dont reply with how 1.6 is 1 million times greater than source and all of that crap, thx.
p.s i used to play competitively in cs w/ cal members and i know their level of skill, and since you have only TRIED source and i have been playing it for an extended period of time i will let you know that it is a great deal better than 1.6, just fyi, im sure you'll appreciate the input.
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1.6 graphics are stone age
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Belgium9949 Posts
On December 12 2005 12:54 hasuwar wrote:
i think it was clean lol
I think it was clear. I think I saw midian around there a few times in the beginning, some other people too (like 3,4)
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
nope, was definitely #clean
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actually i think sc will be played into the ground by the time sc2 comes out, if it ever does
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hasu, midian, do either of you have a good server you frequent? whats the ip
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
well if you wanna play on some european servers i can give you ip later on, gotta run off to college now so i'll post some ips later today
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i just got CS:S a week ago, this is my first time playing cs at all, i would be happy to play with some bw players
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do it up midian, i will try to play euro-style.
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
i'm on 84.18.200.32:27020 right now, dunno if it's a good server, i don't have a favourites list (got new pc 3 days ago)
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lol, im pinging 140, but i'll try
ah i see it, tot midian
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game crash, game crash...bleh
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what username do you use midian?
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England2183 Posts
i use ToT)MidiaN( and i'm going back on that server now 8D
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
new server:80.168.1.13:27015
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51507 Posts
hokay jamie ima play with you!
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51507 Posts
awww, your gone unfortunately =(
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
hehe the server was shite, i gotta go to bed now, can play some tomorrow if you want
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51507 Posts
oh, can you wake up early? im aussie =(, so we can play my night time
or ill try to wake up early tommorow, and we can play during your night time :O
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i bought the game today gogo play asap?
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51507 Posts
add me on xfire if yo have it (starfirefly)
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
k im ready for some css for an hour or so
195.167.188.234:27015 gogo
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
gotta rest now anyways, GGL game, i'll find another after if you're still awake/wanna play
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51507 Posts
anyway im going to bed, be back il like 10 hours or so
we'll play then
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
85.234.132.174:27015 will be on there until i get bored/brother comes home.. prolly another hour or so, perhaps longer
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
just starrted not so long ago got it for xmas i love this game
poor bw disc hasent seen the inside of my comp for weeks
not since like 4 years ago that thats happened
i go by the name Kung-FÔ_ÔL or FuDDx
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meh, i'll get on while im waiting for this war 3 nonsense
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
85.234.132.174:27015 try that
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69.72.241.138:27015 go go go
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On December 06 2005 16:29 Ack1027 wrote:
1.6 is the better competitive game. In fact after Starcraft I'm pretty damn sure 1.6 has the next largest and active community.
is bw still the largest/active community?
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202.173.128.8:27015 gogo 
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ah, thers a five on the end: 202.173.128.8:27015
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i tried joining that one..but it's full
OH WELL
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i'm on 64.94.101.77:27015 west server..also empty right now :|
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England2183 Posts
10-5 then 17-5 with 400 ping FTW XD
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well jamie had to go to do an all night study, i am eating, and dunno about chraej
we'll play later tonight/tommorow my time
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11-5 and 27-12 (we'll forget about the other one...arg) not bad for 300
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no, sry, had to work
maybe tomorrow
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haha I just reinstalled cs source now and hopped on my sc name: oG)Freezer. Some guy in the game recognised you and was like " HEY I KNOW YOU FROM SC!" I felt like it was a small word -.-
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I never played Counterstrike until recently.
I was having a great time on some public servers until I realized half the people were cheating.
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iNcontroL
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I dont own the game but i play it at my friends house (i live there during the summer / christmas break / spring break so basically 4-5 months out of the year) and played Source when it came out. I like it, but perhaps for nostalgic reasons i moved back to regular CS. I enjoy it more and i think it still has a strong foothold in the CS community.
Odd cause source is for all intensive purposes better.. yet CS is still damn popular.
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Is hacking less rampant on Source?
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Thank god you banned that idiot Chraej.
As for my last word on the Source vs 1.6 issue is this:
The reason Counter-Strike was named by CPL [ League for all the best teams, Cyberatlete Pro League ] as the World Tour Game for 2006 is because the fanbase for the game is simply larger, and the game is better as voiced by the majority of the community.
Source is a good game, no doubt, but 1.6 is still miles ahead and all source did was add pretty graphics and useless physics and take 2 steps back.
There are less hackers on Source. But you can tell even from the hackers which is the more prominent game simply because more people and prizes and tournaments come from 1.6
http://www.steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html
Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself. There is no way Source is going to be the future of Counter-Strike.
I wish all of you participating in any leagues, be it OGL, CAL, XPL, NEL, GGL, or CEVO good luck and a smooth season!
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rofl me and my friends just owned some speed hackers
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There are less hackers on Source. But you can tell even from the hackers which is the more prominent game simply because more people and prizes and tournaments come from 1.6
GJ buddy, 1.6 has more of that because it has been around longer? thx. I see you know the HISTORY of the game, welcome to the future:source. As for my ban...wtf? klogon hasnt responded to me yet, but this is a forum where people discuss (hence FORUM) so i dont see what i have done wrong here. (unless hes a die hard 1.6 fan?)
Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself. There is no way Source is going to be the future of Counter-Strike.
So your saying the gaming public will not chose a better version of the game over the crappier version simply because they cannot think of change for their out dated game? CSS will overtake cs 1.6 or the game will die out to other competitors such as quake or BF.
i can only hope you are holding out for cs2 rather than playing the pouting child card.
- incontrol i understand how you feel, when i first started playing source i didnt like it because of the nostalgia and the way it was different from 1.5 (the all time best cs of the past) but the more i played it the more i liked it and realized its potential im comparison. I even played 1.6 recently and thought it was a joke that i had ever considered the old engine entertaining. I really think its once you get used to the source engine that you begin to like it more: why play sc when you can play bw?
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anyone wanna play? my clan has a pub server
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whats the clan and server, where is it located?
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i believe texas, the clan is Kaos_
none of them are great at source...there are a couple that are ok, and the server is only 33tic...usually empty
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actually, it's incredibly full right now
63.209.36.157:27015
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hmm pretty cool, i played for a while untill people started to leave, seems like a nice clan
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they're pretty cool, just kinda nub but its ok because its not hard to get good at fps games lol
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Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself.
Bull.
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ha, i know, im hoping that kid doent show up anymore, its obvious hes only looking for a fight if he goes into a CSS thread to post that 1.6 is superior and making bogus claims.
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On January 18 2006 23:07 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself. Bull.
Gotfrag.com
Sogamed.com
Fragbite.nu
Let's just say when nobody here knows about war3 they go to Orlandu about it because he used to play starcraft and now he's almost all war3.
Same thing happened to me. I know what I'm fucking talking about.
I'm showing you facts, such as : http://www.steampowered.com/status/game_stats.html
There are no world rankings for counter-strike source teams. All source teams are completely dominated by the top 1.6 teams as shown by the past 4 WCGs in which Team 3D has competed in. [ For those of you that don't know, the finals of WCG are played in source ]
I like how you're a fucking moron chraej and you ignore every FACT that I'm giving you.
1.6 has more people who play it, more people who support it, and is named THIS YEAR'S world cpl tour game. Even though Source was released after it and is the sequel to 1.6. The only reason I mentioned Condition Zero is because the large majority of players will say that it is better than source by a huge margin.
You're a fucking moron chraej and you're a fucking noob at counter-strike on top of that. I hope you get banned again for being so FUCKING retarded. I'm not gonna lie it frustrates me when morons cannot accept FACTS.
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
ack1027 just stop talking
you're making the 1.6 players look dumb
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hmm, you have some intersting opinions ack1027
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I agree with ack1027 on this subject.
1.6 is better in nearly all gameplay aspects compared to source, and especially in all those considered important by people who enjoy multiplayer matches at high level.
Chraej, you don't have to take it personally and others don't need to turn this into a flameparty. If you enjoy CS:S more than 1.6, then play it. But don't try to make the game into something it isn't, ie a game suitable for high level multiplayer matches between teams.
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On January 19 2006 13:21 MyLostTemple wrote:
ack1027 just stop talking
you're making the 1.6 players look dumb
Oh and wtf are you? On a cal-p reformed team with a 4 digit steamid?
Chraej is the only retard here.
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im not taking it personally, i kind of feel bad for acky, BUT 1.6 only dominates now because it is, of course, the older nostalgic version, people havnt had time to adapt yet. How long did the transistion from 1.5 to 1.6 take? people wouldnt leave 1.5 b/c they didnt trust 1.6, the same is happening now. Im not insulting you ( luhh) or slamming your opinion, but i believe the gameplay is identical, I found an easy transition from 1.5/6 (didnt play much .6) to source, the proof that the game play is identical was contributed by ack, i.e. the finals were held in source and the 1.6 team dominated.
to acky:
Main Entry: 1re·tard
Pronunciation: ri-'tärd
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French or Latin; Middle French retarder, from Latin retardare, from re- + tardus slow
transitive senses
1 : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : IMPEDE
2 : to delay academic progress by failure to promote
hmm sounds like 1.6 to me, advancement obviously being css
what exactly makes 1.6 better than souce besides the ability to run on virtually any computer? all i can see are improvements, i have PLAYED both a great deal, it would be different if i came out of nowhere with my opinions as...it seems some people do
hmph, i was looking at steams CS statistics, where is 1.6 even? do they list it? all i see is general overview of all cs(which was mostly source stuff when i clicked it), source then cz
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On January 12 2006 18:00 Ack1027 wrote:
Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself. There is no way Source is going to be the future of Counter-Strike.
what about this 1.6 player
p.s. my post you quoted was showing hitboxes and Eexamples from each game, not skill...seeing as it was about how the hitboxes were not exact it was more or less luck that there happened to be three hs (just random youtube vids.)
the point to all that was (maybe it wasnt easy to understand) 1.6 doesnt haev any better hit boxes (notice where the crosshairs are while the players are getting kills, ESP in that ss i took, which shows the guy with the pistol getting a headshot, while his crosshairs are very far to the right of the head in a splatter of blood which is,infact, not a head), and the sv hitbox vid was not even accurate b/c the hitboxes it shows are not where the actual hit boxes are located
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On January 19 2006 15:34 [...]Chraej wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2006 18:00 Ack1027 wrote:
Even Condition Zero considered by many 1.6 players to be better than 1.6 itself. There is no way Source is going to be the future of Counter-Strike.
what about this 1.6 player p.s. my post you quoted was showing hitboxes and Eexamples from each game, not skill...seeing as it was about how the hitboxes were not exact it was more or less luck that there happened to be three hs (just random youtube vids.) the point to all that was (maybe it wasnt easy to understand) 1.6 doesnt haev any better hit boxes (notice where the crosshairs are while the players are getting kills, ESP in that ss i took, which shows the guy with the pistol getting a headshot, while his crosshairs are very far to the right of the head in a splatter of blood which is,infact, not a head), and the sv hitbox vid was not even accurate b/c the hitboxes it shows are not where the actual hit boxes are located
What was your latency, server ticrate, your rates, your ms, server FPS, did you have ex_interp 0 (default ex_interp is 0.1, which is acually 0.09 seconds off the targets true position if you have 100 in cmd and updaterate. They changed this in 1.6 from 1.5, to get rid of the ex_interp abuse. Ironically the situation was reversed, with 0.1 corresponding to targets appearing before they do, but the accuracy is worse of course.)etc etc.
Also, the pistol headshot was viewed by HLTV, meaning there's quite a bit bigger delay than your ineyes demo. That awp thing, if you shoot fast dragshots, then you will often find yourself shooting faster than the game or server will notice, and things will look odd. Also, AWP hits are often misaligned where the true shot is and where you will see graphically where your bullit hit. This doesn't mean your AWP shot is less accurate, it's just a graphical feedback issue.
Myself, I never have over 30 latency no matter what swedish clan I play, and usually around 10 ms, since most warservers are on 100MBit lines and have good settings, and overall swedish internet is good. The game is VERY accurate for swedish players in general.
It's not the fault of the game, it's the fault of bad internet and settings. Stop this already.
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luhh im not sure what your trying to say...but the part i got was about the time a shot registered on hltv, the hl tv delay is not that kind of delay, its not lag, its relay delay, it would be shown the same way as when it occured, unless your saying it somehow changed the way it occured from one point to another within the same footage. I did not make these videos.
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On January 19 2006 17:27 [...]Chraej wrote:
luhh im not sure what your trying to say...but the part i got was about the time a shot registered on hltv, the hl tv delay is not that kind of delay, its not lag, its relay delay, it would be shown the same way as when it occured, unless your saying it somehow changed the way it occured from one point to another within the same footage. I did not make these videos.
No... *sigh* I'm not talking about that delay. The HLTV still has to connect to the server, and it is spectating, and it is often under load as well itself, and since it's spectating, you have to take into consideration lag from the HLTV to server as well as that between player and server etc...
I'm giving up now.
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I have a question about source. I used to have the game on my comp and I have a cs:s account and everything but I don't have the game at the moment. Is there any way I could download it through steam?
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On January 19 2006 14:12 Luhh wrote:
I agree with ack1027 on this subject.
1.6 is better in nearly all gameplay aspects compared to source, and especially in all those considered important by people who enjoy multiplayer matches at high level.
Chraej, you don't have to take it personally and others don't need to turn this into a flameparty. If you enjoy CS:S more than 1.6, then play it. But don't try to make the game into something it isn't, ie a game suitable for high level multiplayer matches between teams.
This basically sums it up. If you know the game at a high level, you'll know what Ack and Luhh are saying. It's like bowling with gutters versus bowling with bumpers; obviously the bowling with gutters is more suitable for high levels of competition, even if both can be fun for the normal person.
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On January 19 2006 20:35 BG1 wrote:
I have a question about source. I used to have the game on my comp and I have a cs:s account and everything but I don't have the game at the moment. Is there any way I could download it through steam?
Yes, I believe you can. As long as you have the account, just log in and download it.
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While we're at it, you wanna voice me in #teamliquid klogon? ^ -^
Me = Vicious[KanG]
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AH HA, of course, klogon IS a 1.6 sympathetic...i should have and or did know...um unban me now plz, that really isnt fair.
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MURICA15980 Posts
No, you were banned for being stupid, this thread just tipped me off to it. The temp bans the other kids got are usually because they are forum veterans, you're not. Frankly, for me, I could care less if you were here or gone; I'm just not banning you because you seem to like being here. Anyone else, they would have banned your ass. Now, stfu and maybe I'll overlook you, 'cause right now I really want to push it.
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On January 20 2006 20:26 Klogon wrote:
Anyone else, they would have banned your ass. .
ban me for what?
i am not doing/ havnt done anything wrong, it isnt fair for you to just slap a ban on my accoutn b/c you dont like my opion/me telling you you dont like my opionion. why would someone who hates css come into a thread about css? its just looking for a fight, am i wrong? i would like to know what "being stupid" constitutes so i can avoid it in the future
thx.
with love
chraej
p.s. when i type "chraej" into search and look at the topics, it is a bunch of discussions, which is what a forum is for, which equals confusion arrow pointing to ban.
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MURICA15980 Posts
Welcome to TL.net, where you can be banned because we simply don't like you. Read the 10 commandments, and you'll find out we don't tolerate people/things that "bring down" our forums. In fact, all the forum veterans agree with this, and expect it.
Understand this, or you won't last long.
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"You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect"
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"We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course..."
how have i brought the forums down?
so i can discuss things as long as they go they way you want them to? do you want everyone to have the same opinion on all subjects?
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Why the drama? Just assume that every mod is insane. Now each day you can still post here you can be thankfull to God for your good fortune.
Everyone wins.
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P.S. oh ya and the hibox movies have nothing wrong in them. Those are all movies that were taken from internet play. In case you have not noticed you can have perfect aim and still die 9999x in cs cause bullets simply do not register properly on high pings and/or your opponent is not actually there because of the crappy client preditction etc. Another factor is how many fps you get. Try spraying with weapons @ distance when you have 40 fps . Even tho the mouse movements /aim are the same the bullets go elsewhere.
bottom line: hitboxes are not a problem in LAN play
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lol yes, thx for the advice, i am starting to see clearly now.
yeah i've read about how they used the same system in both 1.6 and css to predict where the character would be during certain latency etc. i think its insane for someone to call me stupid for saying css is better than one point six and backing it with evidence. maybe you should also ban those who argued against me? it takes more than one person for an argument to take place and i wasnt as harsh as some of them, just trying to prove a point
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you call
LOL some noob just said 1.6 is good LOL, poor noobs think they are right, i dont know why but they relaly suck, i played it again like a month ago ( quit right after 1.5 became 1.6 b/c 1.6 is gay) and it SUCKS, but i started playing again when css came out b/c its really freaking good, i play scoutzknivez alot and or random public servers
an argument?
On 2nd thought let's just not go into this :> it's pointless and you will get banned.
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hahaha, well if someone where to, hypotheticly, use that quote to say "look thats not an argument" i would simply say, if you are a fan of 1.6 dont come in to a css thread and say: "1.6 ftw"
a 1.6 player would obviously know that a css player will not like this, it is common knowledge as i have been playing many times where 1.6 players haev been complaining about the game in some form or another. He knew he was going to get a reaction, and he did.
which is where it started.
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MURICA15980 Posts
On January 20 2006 22:49 [...]Chraej wrote:
i think its insane for someone to call me stupid for saying css is better than one point six and backing it with evidence. maybe you should also ban those who argued against me? it takes more than one person for an argument to take place and i wasnt as harsh as some of them, just trying to prove a point
I don't cuss often, but FUCK!
Did I not say it wasn't because of your ignorant opinion that I banned you? Did I not say it was because I clicked "check previous 100 posts" and thought you detracted from the TL.net community? Did you not understand we try to keep our forums here at TL.net a level above the other trash on the internet? And did you not make the connection that I thought you were DETRACTING enough to be ban worthy? God sakes man.
Speaking of the 10 Commandments... try just looking at the first one. I will highlight the bold for you:
1. THIS IS OUR HOUSE
You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accomodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions. But, we have our limits. If we don't like you, we simply IP ban you. If we're really pissed off, then we IP ban you AND nuke every single post you've uploaded to the site - ever. It will be as if you had never existed here. This is our house. You've been warned.
Get it? FUCK.
That's three strikes. You're out. You're lucky I'm not IP banning you. I'll cool my jets and decide that later. GOD DAMN.
EDIT - NOTE: We've had our exchage of PMs, and frankly, he caught me at a bad time and I reached my limit.
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This thread is now off topic and done... feel free to remake another one to meet up and play source if you wish, but this one is done.
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