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LTLgnuoy00
United States52 Posts
i will follow the bw pros into sc2.... hopefully, with time, i will come to understand and appreciate the game.... to correct a few things said before.... 230 apm is really low.... i have three replays of flash and his apm is in the low 300s which is indeed really low for a bw progamer | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:50 willoc wrote: Moving games will be hardest for people like you. What will you do when your teen "god" moves? You can't really dispute Flash's reputation as "God" The SC2 equivalent is if a player (MC, MMA, MVP, whoever) won 80% of the GSLs, got second place in the rest of them, and led his team to win all the GSTLs. I think you would call that player "God". | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: ForGG has performed well. He's legitimately earnt a Code S spot. Which is nothing when it comes to the hype surrounding a BW A-teamer. Very well, in this case, means becoming a Top 3 player. | ||
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:55 LTLgnuoy00 wrote: i'm a bw person who has come over to the sc2 forums sorry.... i don't really hold any bad feelings against any sc2 ppl.... really i just haven't made the move because my computer sucks and can't handle sc2.... also i actually like the fact that mechanics matters more in bw because i believe that anyone can improve their mechanics and it's just a sign of dedication.... i started off with around 40ish apm and now i can play at 310ish.... i will follow the bw pros into sc2.... hopefully, with time, i will come to understand and appreciate the game.... to correct a few things said before.... 230 apm is really low.... i have three replays of flash and his apm is in the low 300s which is indeed really low for a bw progamer I really hope you can grow to like it :D | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:58 Azarkon wrote: Which is nothing when it comes to the hype surrounding a BW A-teamer. Very well, in this case, means becoming a Top 3 player. He was an A-Teamer in 2008, not 2011. By the time he switched his winrate in the past 30 games was something like 28%. Definetely agree he was overhyped though. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:58 Azarkon wrote: Which is nothing when it comes to the hype surrounding a BW A-teamer. Very well, in this case, means becoming a Top 3 player. ForGG was a borderline A-Teamer when he switched. The last time he was fielded in BW was in December 2010, and was losing a lot. He switched b/c he would have probably retired. These are the facts. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=207&part=games&league=standard#tblt-842-1-1-DESC | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
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Marddox
United Kingdom108 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:46 dark_dragoon10 wrote: YEAHHHHHH!!! IM SO HAPPY flash hwaiting! lol "IdrA on bass" made me laugh | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:03 Teddyman wrote: Stop bullshitting about ForGG, he had 52% winrate in the last year he competed, 43% in his last 30 games. He was doing fine. Not when you look at the quality of players he was winning/losing against | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:05 arb wrote: You're implying im actually trolling. We don't call Flash God for no reason. I believe he is saying that you come off as an arrogant elitist by saying stuff like "move over sc2 kiddies", "SC2 = bad" etc. At least that is the impression I get when I read what you write. You are of course entitled to your opinion, but please voice them in a less condescending way. Thank you. The fewest people here doubt that Flash will be a very, very good SC2 player. Will he dominate SC2? No way to tell yet when we didn't even see a single game from him, though it's certainly possible for a guy with his talent. | ||
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Marddox
United Kingdom108 Posts
On April 26 2012 17:07 Bleak wrote: I hope Flash shows how to incorporate more Ravens into armies in all matchups. That is such an underused and potentially really valuable unit. This is the biggest hope I have with regards to his switch, otherwise he's going to do pretty much what anyone else will do, but a lot better. you're so right, the raven is ridiculously underused. if anyone is going to use the seeker missile it'll be Flash. no doubt. Also I hope that BW players' mechanics means we'll see some more 'macro a ton of units' rather than all ins and 2 base timings thus filtering out the all worse players for better games. MC comes to mind. | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:09 trifecta wrote: Not when you look at the quality of players he was winning/losing against Ok I guess winning against Baby, Movie, Leta, Free, Zero, JangBi, Jaedong, Effort and Action during 2010 counts for nothing. | ||
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Knutzi
Norway664 Posts
then when they fail hard they reply with stuff like "well he wasent really that good anymore.." i hope they do good but because of all these haters i almost want to see them fail just so i can laugh at them ( the haters ) | ||
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ymir233
United States8275 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:03 Teddyman wrote: Stop bullshitting about ForGG, he had 52% winrate in the last year he competed, 43% in his last 30 games. He was doing fine. HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW Have you even seen ForGG play? I love it when people with little ability to analyze BW pros in context think ForGG was "good". His play was sloppy and depended on timing pushes and random aggression. His MSL run was marked by a teamkill finals. Get out of here. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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lolboi222
South Africa44 Posts
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Healasouhait
France28 Posts
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willoc
Canada1530 Posts
On April 27 2012 06:57 trifecta wrote: You can't really dispute Flash's reputation as "God" The SC2 equivalent is if a player (MC, MMA, MVP, whoever) won 80% of the GSLs, got second place in the rest of them, and led his team to win all the GSTLs. I think you would call that player "God". Flash is a great (if not the greatest) RTS player. I would never hero/"god" worship him to the point of obsession like some people do. That was my point. Hope this cleared it up. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:00 1Eris1 wrote: He was an A-Teamer in 2008, not 2011. By the time he switched his winrate in the past 30 games was something like 28%. Definetely agree he was overhyped though. He was an A-teamer in 2010 and he made it to Ro8 in the MSL (lost 3-0 to Flash though, terribly one sided match). He wasn't a top player when he retired, but the end of the 09-10 season he was definitely top 20. I think it's fair to say that his SC2 results were a disappointment. Many of us expected him to be one of the best players in the world by now. | ||
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Teddyman
Finland362 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:19 ymir233 wrote: HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW Have you even seen ForGG play? I love it when people with little ability to analyze BW pros in context think ForGG was "good". His play was sloppy and depended on timing pushes and random aggression. His MSL run was marked by a teamkill finals. Get out of here. You know who he faced in the semis? Never mind, just someone who fell to "sloppy play". | ||
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0kz
Italy1118 Posts
On April 27 2012 07:15 Knutzi wrote: gotta love these bw fanbois, every time some BW player swiches over its OH SHIT SC2 SCRUBS GONNA GET OWNED then when they fail hard they reply with stuff like "well he wasent really that good anymore.." i hope they do good but because of all these haters i almost want to see them fail just so i can laugh at them ( the haters ) I usually agree with posst like this since bw people tend to overhype bw pros.. but man we are talking about Flash here, hes God and because we saw what he can do in bw we are sure he'll do well in sc2 and yeah you could say that players like July Boxer Nada or Forgg were good bw pros, so why havent they won a gsl? well they weren't doing well before they switched lol but during the las PL season Flash was 14-0 before lose his first game.. | ||
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