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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
May 11 2012 03:25 GMT
#1421
Thankfully there's some energy coming from the bench in Hill and Barnes and Sessions is now starting to get his head into the game. but the two Laker big men are no shows so far in this half on really either end of the court.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
May 11 2012 03:27 GMT
#1422
On May 11 2012 12:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Thankfully there's some energy coming from the bench in Hill and Barnes and Sessions is now starting to get his head into the game. but the two Laker big men are no shows so far in this half on really either end of the court.


To be fair to Gasol, he just got his first shot attempt.
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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:31:45
May 11 2012 03:31 GMT
#1423
On May 11 2012 12:27 Kamille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Thankfully there's some energy coming from the bench in Hill and Barnes and Sessions is now starting to get his head into the game. but the two Laker big men are no shows so far in this half on really either end of the court.


To be fair to Gasol, he just got his first shot attempt.

He's not being aggressive enough demanding the ball/attacking the basket, and neither is bynum. Lakers really need their big men to maintain high level of play in the playoffs (games 1-3 ish), or OKC will roll right through them (assuming they get past denver first...)
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
May 11 2012 03:34 GMT
#1424
On May 11 2012 12:27 Kamille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Thankfully there's some energy coming from the bench in Hill and Barnes and Sessions is now starting to get his head into the game. but the two Laker big men are no shows so far in this half on really either end of the court.


To be fair to Gasol, he just got his first shot attempt.


Look at where Pau is positioning himself on offense. He's not moving, he's not battling for inside position, he's just chilling at the top of the box waiting for a pass so he can take a contested jump shot. He's had one shot attempt in the paint that was short.

Either he's not being aggressive or Fereid (sp?) is just manhandling him so badly in the post that he isn't even trying to attack the basket anymore. Either way Pau is still scoreless and the Lakers have no chance of a win today if Kobe is the only reliable form of offense available.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 11 2012 03:36 GMT
#1425
On May 11 2012 12:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On May 11 2012 12:01 Jerubaal wrote:
Yes, Kobe, take all the shots. Give in to your vanity. I have foreseen it.

And Harrington is a braver man than I to go into a game with Kobe with a broken nose.



You're kidding right?

Bynum is shooting like absolute shit as is the rest of the team. Kobe seems to be the only guy on the starting 5 that came to play so far despite the stomach flu.


The fact remains that the Lakers tend to lose those games. The Lakers are probably going to need both Bynum and Gasol to play well if they want to win the championship and get away from that (and seem to have abandoned Gasol altogether) frighteningly often. If I was Mike Brown, I'd run play after play for Bynum until he stops checking out of games.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 04:11:33
May 11 2012 03:36 GMT
#1426
On May 11 2012 12:31 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:27 Kamille wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
Thankfully there's some energy coming from the bench in Hill and Barnes and Sessions is now starting to get his head into the game. but the two Laker big men are no shows so far in this half on really either end of the court.


To be fair to Gasol, he just got his first shot attempt.

He's not being aggressive enough demanding the ball/attacking the basket, and neither is bynum. Lakers really need their big men to maintain high level of play in the playoffs (games 1-3 ish), or OKC will roll right through them (assuming they get past denver first...)


To busy getting punked by Mcgee Faried and Mozgov. Bynum makes first with 5 to go in the second. Lakers so lucky to be close. One can dislike Kobe all they want but hes keeping them in it again. Game will slow down and theyll get back in it Denver isnt going to stay this hot on the 3 forever, but this doesnt really look good at all.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
May 11 2012 03:43 GMT
#1427
On May 11 2012 12:36 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 11 2012 12:01 Jerubaal wrote:
Yes, Kobe, take all the shots. Give in to your vanity. I have foreseen it.

And Harrington is a braver man than I to go into a game with Kobe with a broken nose.



You're kidding right?

Bynum is shooting like absolute shit as is the rest of the team. Kobe seems to be the only guy on the starting 5 that came to play so far despite the stomach flu.


The fact remains that the Lakers tend to lose those games. The Lakers are probably going to need both Bynum and Gasol to play well if they want to win the championship and get away from that (and seem to have abandoned Gasol altogether) frighteningly often. If I was Mike Brown, I'd run play after play for Bynum until he stops checking out of games.


That works fine for the regular season but this is the playoffs.

You're going to keep running plays for a guy that's 1-6 and lagging on defense?

A majority of Bynum's rebounds so far this game have been from his own misses, but at least he's actually SOMEWHAT contributing.

Pau is still MIA, whether by Mike Brown's neglect or his own lack of effort he still hasn't done anything this half and Kobe is carrying the offense as a result.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:50:17
May 11 2012 03:45 GMT
#1428
This game reminds me of the Lakers vs Mavericks series last year, where ALL of LA's bigs just chilled outside he paint and dicked around for 80% of the games while believing that Kobe could single-handedly carry the team. No wonder he takes 25+ shots a game every game, the games that he doesn't score like 30 points end up being blowouts anyways because LA bigs don't do shit without Kobe drawing all the attention.
Mike Brown needs to get his ass in gear and get this team of his motivated, I just think he's too busy trying to fill phil's shoes and respects the players too much instead of getting the players to meet his own standards as a completely different coach.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 04:05:37
May 11 2012 03:59 GMT
#1429
They're focusing on what I've been saying since game 2 of this series.

Blake CANNOT guard Andre Miller and now FINALLLYLYLYLYLYLLYLYL Mike Brown has kobe on him and Andre Miller hasn't hurt them in the first half the way he has in previous games.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
May 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#1430
That is not a flagrant foul.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
May 11 2012 04:14 GMT
#1431
That is such a flagrant foul.
darkness overpowering
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 04:17:13
May 11 2012 04:16 GMT
#1432
On May 11 2012 13:14 ghrur wrote:
That is such a flagrant foul.


Clearly you're not aware that one of the conditions of a foul being flagrant was that there has to be no intent to play on the ball. That's what makes it "flagrant" Kobe clearly was playing the ball on that play. Feried just fell awkwardly. The slow motion makes it obvious. He gets more of the ball than he gets of Feried, if anything it was Barnes that caused him to fall.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
May 11 2012 04:17 GMT
#1433
On May 11 2012 13:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 13:14 ghrur wrote:
That is such a flagrant foul.


Clearly you're not aware that one of the conditions of a foul being flagrant was that there has to be no intent to play on the ball. That's what makes it "flagrant" Kobe clearly was playing the ball on that play. Feried just fell awkwardly. The slow motion makes it obvious. He gets more of the ball than he gets of Feried, if anything it was Barnes that caused him to fall.


Clearly your expertise outweighs that of officials and sports casters.
darkness overpowering
Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
May 11 2012 04:18 GMT
#1434
The lakers are so dirty, I would be ashamed to be a laker fan.
@vindicare605 that was clearly a flagrant foul Kobe hit him in the head, are you serious?
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 04:22:22
May 11 2012 04:18 GMT
#1435
Its a flagrant, just not a flagrant two, a two would be if there was no play for the ball. You can't "play for the ball" and hit someones head like that without catching at least a flagrant.

I don't think the play was dirty, shit happens.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
May 11 2012 04:20 GMT
#1436
On May 11 2012 13:18 Remfire wrote:
The lakers are so dirty, I would be ashamed to be a laker fan.
@vindicare605 that was clearly a flagrant foul Kobe hit him in the head, are you serious?



Look at it again. His arm is almost mirroring Feried's arm, with his hand draped over the ball.

The refs called it flagrant because of the way Feried fell which is something they tend to do.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 04:25:29
May 11 2012 04:21 GMT
#1437
On May 11 2012 13:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 13:14 ghrur wrote:
That is such a flagrant foul.


Clearly you're not aware that one of the conditions of a foul being flagrant was that there has to be no intent to play on the ball. That's what makes it "flagrant" Kobe clearly was playing the ball on that play. Feried just fell awkwardly. The slow motion makes it obvious. He gets more of the ball than he gets of Feried, if anything it was Barnes that caused him to fall.


Yea I wouldnt call that a flagrant because Barnes had as much to do with it as Kobe to make it look bad but really Im not surprised.

When they say unnecessary contact is a flagrant its not because of lack intent to play the ball (atleast not in the rules, its an unwritten one sure but its not a condition) its because putting the player at risk through any kind of contact is deemed "unnecessary". Just because your going for the ball doesnt make it ok to go through someones head. I mean if you go by that the next time someone turns their back to you on a play, punch em in the nuts trying to go for the ball and get a hand on it.


Lackers so lethargic. Im going to bed. Dont even care if they win.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16109 Posts
May 11 2012 04:22 GMT
#1438
On May 11 2012 13:17 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 13:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 11 2012 13:14 ghrur wrote:
That is such a flagrant foul.


Clearly you're not aware that one of the conditions of a foul being flagrant was that there has to be no intent to play on the ball. That's what makes it "flagrant" Kobe clearly was playing the ball on that play. Feried just fell awkwardly. The slow motion makes it obvious. He gets more of the ball than he gets of Feried, if anything it was Barnes that caused him to fall.


Clearly your expertise outweighs that of officials and sports casters.


You're watching TNT right?

I'm watching KCAL and neither of the casters there think it was flagrant.

And I'm 100% convinced that you don't really believe the refs in the NBA have a clean track record when calling flagrant fouls.

Chandler's "flagrant" on Lebron is an even more obvious example of how much credibility i give to NBA officials to make the correct calls.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 11 2012 04:22 GMT
#1439
I don't think intent matters in some instances. As long as it's deemed unnecessary or excessive. Kobe may not have meant it, but he whacked the guy pretty hard in the head.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
May 11 2012 04:23 GMT
#1440
Ya its pretty much b/c he got him in the head I think or else it might have gone differently.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
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