EPTNaniwa incident - Page 2
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:48 DreamChaser wrote: If anything Naniwa should of just played for the "Rivalry" between him and Nestea Assuming that Naniwa believes in this "rivalry"(which he doesn't), he wasn't able to play his best nor did he want to play in a game that didn't matter. It wouldn't of fueled in the "rivalry" at all. The reason why I said he doesn't believe in this rivalry is because Naniwa only cares about winning tournaments. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Why wouldn't he try to beat NesTea legitimately for ranking at least (not being 0-4) and so he could say I've beaten NesTea | ||
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CharlieBrownsc
Canada598 Posts
Saying "What he did was short-sighted" and giving him flack for doing something wrong is pointless if it's not generally agreed that he fucked up I'm all for what he did, it's no different from July going double-6pool vs moman in NASL when he secured a spot in the finals | ||
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Cham
797 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:34 gwaihir wrote: 1# its called football (because you play it with the foot, not like your shitty football) NOT SOCCER soccer is a ridiculous word you weird americans made for a thing that ALREADY HAD A NAME..... The English dictionary would like to have a word with you. | ||
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Symbioth
Poland103 Posts
He was forced to play a game of no importance. He didn't agree to do this and I'm sure he knew what the potential consequences were. You can respect that. The guy won't stand for bullshit. This is admirable. He could have played a game half-seriously but wouldn't that be a waste of time ? How could he do his best when the game had no real import ? What's the point of bashing a player for refusing to play a game that woulnd't be really exciting anyways because he had no real motivation to do his best ? You spit on it because you are more willing to respect bullshit than to respect one of those guys who are most reponsible for the growth of e-sports. You seem to have no clue about where progamers come from and how their life looks like. You actually seem to disrespect this guy and you ascribe to him obligations that he completely shouldn't have. Naniwa simply made a choice and it should be understood. It was a rational choice. Why should he take the responsibility for something that he wasn't responsible for ? He has no obligation to do so - in fact, it would be more accurate to say that he had an obligation to defend himself against bullshit, which he kind of did. He isn't the immature one there and his punishment is an injustice, a facade of someone supporting "rules" that don't really serve their purpose... and certainly not e-sports... | ||
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English
United States475 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:51 Symbioth wrote: ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ? I mean, SERIOUSLY? DID you seriously write this post OP ? This guy is putting hundreds of hours and an insane amount of energy, passion and immense dedication into this game and here you are, just judging him as if it didn't even matter. He SHOULD HAVE played the game. Omg that was so wrong, he shoulnd't have done this ! He was forced to play a game of no importance. He didn't agree to do this and I'm sure he knew what the potential consequences were. You can respect that. The guy won't stand for bullshit. This is admirable. He could have played a game half-seriously but wouldn't that be a waste of time ? How could he do his best when the game had no real import ? What's the point of bashing a player for refusing to play a game that woulnd't be really exciting anyways because he had no real motivation to do his best ? You spit on it because you are more willing to respect bullshit than to respect one of those guys who are most reponsible for the growth of e-sports. You seem to have no clue about where progamers come from and how their life looks like. You actually seem to disrespect this guy and you ascribe to him obligations that he completely shouldn't have. Naniwa simply made a choice and it should be understood. It was a rational choice. Why should he take the responsibility for something that he wasn't responsible for ? He has no obligation to do so - in fact, it would be more accurate to say that he had an obligation to defend himself against bullshit, which he kind of did. He isn't the immature one there and his punishment is an injustice, a facade of someone supporting "rules" that don't really serve their purpose... and certainly not e-sports... Professional athletes are forced to play games of no importance all the time. Professionals in general are forced to do things of no importance from time to time, and they do it because they are professionals. It's not like he was disobeying the rules for moral reasons, he just didn't want to play a [relatively] meaningless match. Imagine if no one played games they didn't want to. Would it still be "admirable"? He has an obligation to do his best in every match so long as he's on a team, has sponsors, in tournaments, has opponents, and even fans sometimes. As long as he's considered a professional, he should act professionally -- sometimes it means biting the bullet for the people who allow you to play something you love for a living. | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
If we allow this, then it's going to turn into a shitshow. 800 page thread? "No one will read my comment, but I'm special, so I'll just open a new thread". Not on my watch. | ||
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