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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.
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On December 15 2011 05:15 Kentakky wrote:
Koreans are robots without any emotion, they don't know what Naniwa went through being so close to kill leenock and the others etc and then he had to play a final game didn't matter so he just proberushed there's no bad manner in that at all.
I'm not gonna watch GSL ever again, I won't kill eSports since I enjoy Dreamhacks and MLGs more anyway and I like Dota2 as well so I'll keep watching those but for koreans and GOM etc I've lost all respect what a bunch of whiny sissys.
lol you're calling GOM and the Koreans whiny sissies, while defending a player who didn't play a game he was paid to play just because he lost his other games??
Wow, seriously, did you even stop and think before posting?
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On December 15 2011 05:23 MiXyass wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:19 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:16 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:15 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:14 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 05:04 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:02 SupLilSon wrote:On December 15 2011 04:57 ExO_ wrote:
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I'm not telling them what to do, I'm arguing what they can't do. And by banning a player just because he was disrespectful to you, is showing disrespect to all players. He earned his GSL spot, but is being told he won't get it. How would you like it as a player if you earned a GSL spot, but where told you cannot have it? That's what I'm against. I don't care about Naniwa. I care about what's being set here. He didn't earn anything. Being allowed to play in Korea is a privilege and NaNiwa lost that. Simple. Oh so Koreans are superior to westerners. We are not created equal, they are better and only if our betters "choose" to let us play with them, should we be allowed to play with them. Sorry guys, if you're not a Korean you must be an inferior. Please understand my sarcasm here (I'm not racist), and how much attitudes like the poster above mine's upset me. It is a privilege. Why? Because it's their tournament (not to mention it has the best competition and highest prize pool). They are under no obligation to invite everyone equally, so it's completely within their right to revoke someone's eligibility to play for a certain season. Then the quote should've been phrased as such. As it stands, it is says that playing in Korean is a privilege, as if somehow you don't have an equal right as a player to play where you wish. And you can argue that its within their right to revoke someone's eligibility, but I argue that if that's the case there needs to be a firm base with clearly established rules for doing so. As it stands right now, it seems to me they can kick a player out just because they don't like him. They could deny MVP eligibility. Would anybody just agree with that? Yes... they are going to deny MVP eligibility because they don't like him... Lol, the chaos some people must be feeling right now. Their whole world is out of order because Naniwa got uninvited for unprofessional conduct. It's madness I tell you. How can I make you understand, its not NaNiwa I care about. It's the precedent that is being set for the way future players may be treated. Stop trying to make it about NaNiwa. This is about GOM and how they are handling a situation, not NaNiwa So professional players will be deterred from throwing their games. What's your point? Are you slowly realizing you're getting your panties in a bunch for no reason? Thanks for the personal attack, but no I do have a very valid reason. Right now you can argue its so they deter players from throwing games sure. A very good thing to do. But by stepping over the line like this, by booting a player who hasn't violated any rules, you set the precedent to do the same again, only for a different reason. rules don't always have to be violated look at the world of law rules are CREATED and MODIFIED because of a NEED it's not like rules were created once thousands of years ago and we all abide by them this is an ethics issue and naniwa slapped the koreans in the face gomtv has the power to deny anyone of anything relating to THEIR tournament they simply used a very bad rule to justify their actions but really, they don't need any justification at the end of the day they can do whatever they want
I agree that rules are created and modified because of a Need. This is exactly what should happen. A new rule should be created, or an old one modified. But you cannot boot a player for violating a rule that wasn't in place at the time of his violation. Doing so is unjustified.
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On December 15 2011 05:15 Kentakky wrote:
Koreans are robots without any emotion, they don't know what Naniwa went through being so close to kill leenock and the others etc and then he had to play a final game didn't matter so he just proberushed there's no bad manner in that at all.
I'm not gonna watch GSL ever again, I won't kill eSports since I enjoy Dreamhacks and MLGs more anyway and I like Dota2 as well so I'll keep watching those but for koreans and GOM etc I've lost all respect what a bunch of whiny sissys.
Wow I'm Korean and the reason we have emotions and care about these things are rofl... due to their emotions
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And just to add... I'm actually really sorry that this happened because Naniwa is a really good player and IMO has a great attitude (skill is all that matters). I feel that Khaldor is right when he says that Naniwa is misunderstood, and it's unfortunate that that "damages" his career.
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On December 15 2011 05:15 LiamTheZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:04 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:02 SupLilSon wrote:On December 15 2011 04:57 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 04:55 SupLilSon wrote:On December 15 2011 04:15 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 04:12 kappadevin wrote:
People are too busy looking at the individual event here too much. It wasn't the fact that he probe rushed that really set people off, it's the fact that he so clearly and blatantly threw the game. People who play showmatches don't have anything at stake, so should it be allowable for them to just throw those games completely?
There shouldn't need to be an explicit rule about this kind of behavior: it should be self explanatory. Imagine you tuned into a football game where one team had no possibility of making the playoffs and they decide to just not play any defense for the rest of the game. It's about respecting you opponent, your fans, and your tournament. He wasn't expected to play his fingers off, but he should at least have the respect for NesTea to give him a legitimate game.
Look at Choya. He was playing rock paper scissors against people for ladder games, and EVEN THOUGH that wasn't even affiliated with GOM at all, he received a ban from the GSTL. Are you going to argue there should have been a specific rule saying you can't rock paper scissors on the ladder? I hope this whole thing gives Naniwa a wake up call to fix his attitude. He "should" give NesTea a good game sure. But by no means does he have to. He is his own player, and his audience can't tell him how to play his games. I hate how everybody here just presumes he should have to do what they want for them. Bullshit. he can do what he wants. on the other hand, booting him from GSL, without any real rules broken is bullshit and a huge violation of GSL's duty. You can't just kick a player out because they don't like what they did....or evidently you can. Watch out IdrA, GSL might kick you out if you do something they don't like. Yea, NaNiwa can do whatever he wants. GOMtv can also do whatever they want. They both live with the consequences of their actions. You really aren't making a point. GOM is an independent league and they can accept and deny whoever they want. They were going to invite NaNiwa and now they aren't. Who are you to tell them what to do? I'm not telling them what to do, I'm arguing what they can't do. And by banning a player just because he was disrespectful to you, is showing disrespect to all players. He earned his GSL spot, but is being told he won't get it. How would you like it as a player if you earned a GSL spot, but where told you cannot have it? That's what I'm against. I don't care about Naniwa. I care about what's being set here. He didn't earn anything. Being allowed to play in Korea is a privilege and NaNiwa lost that. Simple. Oh so Koreans are superior to westerners. We are not created equal, they are better and only if our betters "choose" to let us play with them, should we be allowed to play with them. Sorry guys, if you're not a Korean you must be an inferior. Please understand my sarcasm here (I'm not racist), and how much attitudes like the poster above mine's upset me. You might be the dumbest person ever. Koreans are better players and host the most prestigious tournament in the world. They have the best players, the best tourneye, etc. Their finals have live performance and most of all they have pride. Naniwa bypassed many players who have worked their asses off to get into code S (Oz, Curious, etc) because of an agreement made my two organizations in a tournament that had much more foreigners than koreans. So yes, it is a privilege to play in Korea and be invited to play. @Kentakky, what a fairweather fan. You're no fan of eSports if you don't wanna watch the best games and actively support players who have their heads up their asses.
Only a moron would argue that being Korean makes you priveleged. Let's be realistic here. It's not racial superiority/inferiority, it's the fact that Korea had invested much of their capital into nationwide high speed internet, and this combined with a cultural and economic shift towards seeking cheap entertainment in PC bangs is what made the Korean e-sports scene.
Besides, in my opinion the GSL is only prestigious in terms of skill. The prize pool is only decent if you remain in Code S and in comparison to the US, there is virtually no prize money available, plus pro-gamer salaries have not reached the bonjwa levels that have been attained in Brood War under KeSPA.
Besides, because of SC2's lack of popularity in Korea and their growing dependence on an international audience, GOMTV will ideally want to appease the international audience and be more lenient about such occurances, rather than seeing the ability to play in Korea as a "privelege,"
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ah ok, yeah that guideline definitely fits (abuse is key word)
Anyways. I wonder how big of a part this seed change decision was influenced by Naniwa's behavior, but either way...
SEN FUCK YEAH!!! He's not super good, but he is definitely good. I hope he can get a lot better. I mean he was one of the best foreign BW players (at least, towards the end of BW's run at WCG).
Idra? FUCK NO!!! But it will still be interesting to see him lose or win ^_^ (I don't like idra)
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On December 15 2011 05:24 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:23 MiXyass wrote:On December 15 2011 05:19 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:16 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:15 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:14 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 05:04 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:02 SupLilSon wrote:
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He didn't earn anything. Being allowed to play in Korea is a privilege and NaNiwa lost that. Simple. Oh so Koreans are superior to westerners. We are not created equal, they are better and only if our betters "choose" to let us play with them, should we be allowed to play with them. Sorry guys, if you're not a Korean you must be an inferior. Please understand my sarcasm here (I'm not racist), and how much attitudes like the poster above mine's upset me. It is a privilege. Why? Because it's their tournament (not to mention it has the best competition and highest prize pool). They are under no obligation to invite everyone equally, so it's completely within their right to revoke someone's eligibility to play for a certain season. Then the quote should've been phrased as such. As it stands, it is says that playing in Korean is a privilege, as if somehow you don't have an equal right as a player to play where you wish. And you can argue that its within their right to revoke someone's eligibility, but I argue that if that's the case there needs to be a firm base with clearly established rules for doing so. As it stands right now, it seems to me they can kick a player out just because they don't like him. They could deny MVP eligibility. Would anybody just agree with that? Yes... they are going to deny MVP eligibility because they don't like him... Lol, the chaos some people must be feeling right now. Their whole world is out of order because Naniwa got uninvited for unprofessional conduct. It's madness I tell you. How can I make you understand, its not NaNiwa I care about. It's the precedent that is being set for the way future players may be treated. Stop trying to make it about NaNiwa. This is about GOM and how they are handling a situation, not NaNiwa So professional players will be deterred from throwing their games. What's your point? Are you slowly realizing you're getting your panties in a bunch for no reason? Thanks for the personal attack, but no I do have a very valid reason. Right now you can argue its so they deter players from throwing games sure. A very good thing to do. But by stepping over the line like this, by booting a player who hasn't violated any rules, you set the precedent to do the same again, only for a different reason. rules don't always have to be violated look at the world of law rules are CREATED and MODIFIED because of a NEED it's not like rules were created once thousands of years ago and we all abide by them this is an ethics issue and naniwa slapped the koreans in the face gomtv has the power to deny anyone of anything relating to THEIR tournament they simply used a very bad rule to justify their actions but really, they don't need any justification at the end of the day they can do whatever they want I agree that rules are created and modified because of a Need. This is exactly what should happen. A new rule should be created, or an old one modified. But you cannot boot a player for violating a rule that wasn't in place at the time of his violation. Doing so is unjustified.
GOM doesn't need to justify anything, it is their tournament
and GOM does have a rule that says that they can deny ANYONE the right to play if they deemed them as 'unfit' to be a pro-gamer
naniwa was given a code s spot, it can be taken away just as easy
idra and sen got a code s spot
and if they slapped gomtv in the face they will get theirs taken away as well
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On December 15 2011 05:24 Flowjo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:15 Kentakky wrote:
Koreans are robots without any emotion, they don't know what Naniwa went through being so close to kill leenock and the others etc and then he had to play a final game didn't matter so he just proberushed there's no bad manner in that at all.
I'm not gonna watch GSL ever again, I won't kill eSports since I enjoy Dreamhacks and MLGs more anyway and I like Dota2 as well so I'll keep watching those but for koreans and GOM etc I've lost all respect what a bunch of whiny sissys. Wow I'm Korean and the reason we have emotions and care about these things are rofl... due to their emotions
How can you rofl? you have no emotions. Being Korean. And a robot. I demand to know who programmed you!
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On December 15 2011 05:17 RHMVNovus wrote:
As I mentioned in the closed thread:
Jjakji defeated Leenock 4-2, rendering the 7th game meaningless. Why doesn't GSL make them play the 7th game? It could just as easily be argued that we paid for a best-of-seven (e.g. IdrA v. F91), not a first-to-four.
Why doesn't GSL play out all its best-of-X series?
EDIT: Removed unnecessary quote.
Read Doa's blog about this.
This tournament was specifically set up as a celebration of a year of starcraft. They played all the games not to just see who would advance but to put on a good show! and Naniwa basically took that a shit all over it, thats why GOM is so upset about this. Also you guys have to understand that being a pro gamer in Korea means being a professional and showing good games for the fans. Ever read a Koreans interview? They are always talking about wanting to show good games for the fans etc.
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On December 15 2011 05:23 Kresh wrote:
I think the correct analogy is this:
You go to work, do the morning shift, and that afternoon there are no customers - so frankly the afternoon is meaningless. Your boss knows this as well as you do, but wants you to stay at work.
What you do:- Stay at work, but quietly surf the web when your boss isn't standing next to you, and in return he makes sure he doesn't catch you by accident.
What you DON'T do:- Jump up on a desk in front of your co-workers, and shout across the whole office "Hey, I know you told me to work this afternoon but since I don't see any point in being here, screw you I'm going home to watch the game!"
By jumping up, YOU take away his "reasonable" option, and YOU force him to pull out his "rulebook" option, because you basically gave him no way to do the reasonable thing without people losing respect for him and his authority.
This is even more important in a culture that values face and authority - and far-east cultures are exactly that.
THis is 100% correct and quoted for truth.
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Not going to purchase a pass just for this.
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Interesting news to wake up to. I'm a little surprised GOM is taking a stand like this against a foreigner, but it isn't like it makes no sense. Naniwa took a huge dump on their tournament, refusing to play a game he clearly signed up for. Refusing to play the game hurts the league, your team, your sponsors, every viewer, etc.
Hopefully people think about more than just themselves in the future. Sure, you're playing to win, but you're only playing to win because thousands of people want to see you play. That's it.
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On December 15 2011 05:23 MiXyass wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:19 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:16 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:15 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:14 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 05:04 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:02 SupLilSon wrote:On December 15 2011 04:57 ExO_ wrote:
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I'm not telling them what to do, I'm arguing what they can't do. And by banning a player just because he was disrespectful to you, is showing disrespect to all players. He earned his GSL spot, but is being told he won't get it. How would you like it as a player if you earned a GSL spot, but where told you cannot have it? That's what I'm against. I don't care about Naniwa. I care about what's being set here. He didn't earn anything. Being allowed to play in Korea is a privilege and NaNiwa lost that. Simple. Oh so Koreans are superior to westerners. We are not created equal, they are better and only if our betters "choose" to let us play with them, should we be allowed to play with them. Sorry guys, if you're not a Korean you must be an inferior. Please understand my sarcasm here (I'm not racist), and how much attitudes like the poster above mine's upset me. It is a privilege. Why? Because it's their tournament (not to mention it has the best competition and highest prize pool). They are under no obligation to invite everyone equally, so it's completely within their right to revoke someone's eligibility to play for a certain season. Then the quote should've been phrased as such. As it stands, it is says that playing in Korean is a privilege, as if somehow you don't have an equal right as a player to play where you wish. And you can argue that its within their right to revoke someone's eligibility, but I argue that if that's the case there needs to be a firm base with clearly established rules for doing so. As it stands right now, it seems to me they can kick a player out just because they don't like him. They could deny MVP eligibility. Would anybody just agree with that? Yes... they are going to deny MVP eligibility because they don't like him... Lol, the chaos some people must be feeling right now. Their whole world is out of order because Naniwa got uninvited for unprofessional conduct. It's madness I tell you. How can I make you understand, its not NaNiwa I care about. It's the precedent that is being set for the way future players may be treated. Stop trying to make it about NaNiwa. This is about GOM and how they are handling a situation, not NaNiwa So professional players will be deterred from throwing their games. What's your point? Are you slowly realizing you're getting your panties in a bunch for no reason? Thanks for the personal attack, but no I do have a very valid reason. Right now you can argue its so they deter players from throwing games sure. A very good thing to do. But by stepping over the line like this, by booting a player who hasn't violated any rules, you set the precedent to do the same again, only for a different reason. rules don't always have to be violated look at the world of law rules are CREATED and MODIFIED because of a NEED it's not like rules were created once thousands of years ago and we all abide by them this is an ethics issue and naniwa slapped the koreans in the face gomtv has the power to deny anyone of anything relating to THEIR tournament they simply used a very bad rule to justify their actions but really, they don't need any justification at the end of the day they can do whatever they want
No, they changed a rule then retroactively applied it to NaNiwa's game in the most moronic way possible, arguing that he "offended the audience and NesTea with abusive behaviour", this of course being a 7 probe rush.
That is unjust as far as I see it. What they should have done was made a new rule against intentionally losing games, but not retroactively applied it.
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On December 15 2011 05:15 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:13 pezit wrote:On December 15 2011 05:05 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 05:03 pezit wrote:On December 15 2011 04:56 Avril_Lavigne wrote:On December 15 2011 04:49 pezit wrote:On December 15 2011 04:42 Vasily17 wrote:
For all the people who are saying there not going to buy the year pass for GSL because of this are ridiculous. if your were going to buy a year full of game because of one player who at any point can be knocked down to code B in one season is silly. and also he could make back in to code S by next season cause he still has a code A spot i believe. I'm sorry but do you seriously not understand? It's not because we just want to see Naniwa but it's about not supporting an organization that makes these kind of decisions. Why not? Do you wish to see more players behaving like this in the next upcoming matches? For someone to do the exact same thing Naniwa did, knowing the consequences naniwa took, I myself would gladly ban that person from GSL along with the next players who follow in Naniwas footsteps. Why would you not support this decision? I'm one of few who thinks there was nothing wrong with what he did and if someone else does the same I won't mind then either. I'm not too big on everything being professional and anal but instead I prefer to see things as they are and with some common sense. Except that there are very good reasons for things being done in a professional manner. In this case, there's an obvious one - say I paid to see this event. I really wanted to see Naniwa vs. Nestea. That's the main reason I paid to see this event. It's incredibly disrespectful and unprofessional of Naniwa to do something like this when I many people pay to see certain events so they can see certain matches. This is why there are rules against things like this. But the tournament was set up so that when the game was to be played both naniwa and nestea were huge losers, they both underperformed all day and the game wouldn't have said anything on who is the better player. They were broken sad and tilted, I can't understand why anyone would want to see them play at that point. If Nestea can suck it up and try to play a good game why can't Naniwa?
This match meant something to nestea though. I'm sure he was looking forward to redeeming himself against Naniwa, where as naniwa could have cared less for a pointless match.
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I felt it was justified. We do have emotions but you can't be so selfish. There were a lot of fans and their team still rooting for them so you need to be playing for them not just for yourself gain. I'm sure everyone wants sc2(or esports to be in general) to be as big as a professional sport so we must have the same discipline and attitude. There are so many instances where a team has no chance but they still play their hardest for the fans and for the team. Like this year the colts are 0-13 they haven't won a single game but they still practice and play hard every week knowing well that they will have no chance for the post season and no chance of a winning season.
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On December 15 2011 05:28 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:23 Kresh wrote:
I think the correct analogy is this:
You go to work, do the morning shift, and that afternoon there are no customers - so frankly the afternoon is meaningless. Your boss knows this as well as you do, but wants you to stay at work.
What you do:- Stay at work, but quietly surf the web when your boss isn't standing next to you, and in return he makes sure he doesn't catch you by accident.
What you DON'T do:- Jump up on a desk in front of your co-workers, and shout across the whole office "Hey, I know you told me to work this afternoon but since I don't see any point in being here, screw you I'm going home to watch the game!"
By jumping up, YOU take away his "reasonable" option, and YOU force him to pull out his "rulebook" option, because you basically gave him no way to do the reasonable thing without people losing respect for him and his authority.
This is even more important in a culture that values face and authority - and far-east cultures are exactly that. THis is 100% correct and quoted for truth.
Not really, it brakes down in the first paragraph. If there is zero chance of customers that place would not be open.
If there is a chance of customers the afternoon is not meaningless.
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wow lol
User was warned for this post
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On December 15 2011 05:31 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 05:23 MiXyass wrote:On December 15 2011 05:19 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:16 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:15 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:14 Nagano wrote:On December 15 2011 05:11 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:On December 15 2011 05:04 ExO_ wrote:On December 15 2011 05:02 SupLilSon wrote:
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He didn't earn anything. Being allowed to play in Korea is a privilege and NaNiwa lost that. Simple. Oh so Koreans are superior to westerners. We are not created equal, they are better and only if our betters "choose" to let us play with them, should we be allowed to play with them. Sorry guys, if you're not a Korean you must be an inferior. Please understand my sarcasm here (I'm not racist), and how much attitudes like the poster above mine's upset me. It is a privilege. Why? Because it's their tournament (not to mention it has the best competition and highest prize pool). They are under no obligation to invite everyone equally, so it's completely within their right to revoke someone's eligibility to play for a certain season. Then the quote should've been phrased as such. As it stands, it is says that playing in Korean is a privilege, as if somehow you don't have an equal right as a player to play where you wish. And you can argue that its within their right to revoke someone's eligibility, but I argue that if that's the case there needs to be a firm base with clearly established rules for doing so. As it stands right now, it seems to me they can kick a player out just because they don't like him. They could deny MVP eligibility. Would anybody just agree with that? Yes... they are going to deny MVP eligibility because they don't like him... Lol, the chaos some people must be feeling right now. Their whole world is out of order because Naniwa got uninvited for unprofessional conduct. It's madness I tell you. How can I make you understand, its not NaNiwa I care about. It's the precedent that is being set for the way future players may be treated. Stop trying to make it about NaNiwa. This is about GOM and how they are handling a situation, not NaNiwa So professional players will be deterred from throwing their games. What's your point? Are you slowly realizing you're getting your panties in a bunch for no reason? Thanks for the personal attack, but no I do have a very valid reason. Right now you can argue its so they deter players from throwing games sure. A very good thing to do. But by stepping over the line like this, by booting a player who hasn't violated any rules, you set the precedent to do the same again, only for a different reason. rules don't always have to be violated look at the world of law rules are CREATED and MODIFIED because of a NEED it's not like rules were created once thousands of years ago and we all abide by them this is an ethics issue and naniwa slapped the koreans in the face gomtv has the power to deny anyone of anything relating to THEIR tournament they simply used a very bad rule to justify their actions but really, they don't need any justification at the end of the day they can do whatever they want No, they changed a rule then retroactively applied it to NaNiwa's game in the most moronic way possible, arguing that he "offended the audience and NesTea with abusive behaviour", this of course being a 7 probe rush. That is unjust as far as I see it. What they should have done was made a new rule against intentionally losing games, but not retroactively applied it.
its called throwing the game.
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Doing things such as dropping mules or building manner nexuses, while offensive to other players (or "bm"), tend to offer high entertainment value. I think some people are losing sight of the fact that the GSL and these events such as the blizz-invite are productions. They are selling entertainment to an audience, and the entertainment comes from the players. This is clear whenever you listen to a korean talk, they always say "I will try to play good games for my fans."
I think GSL is making a statement here. Naniwa vs. Nestea, while inconsequential to the overall tournament, is a great grudge match and has a high entertainment value due to the brief history. GOM thought this game would be good, the viewers thought the game would be good. Add in sound proof booths, tastosis and the korean commentators, some smoke machines, lights, and graphics and we have ourselves some quality entertainment.
And then Naniwa probe rushed.
Yeah, he took heartbreaking defeats, but I think Incontrol made a good point on sotg, all he had to do was play the 4 or 5 minute game and 4gate - that way hes giving something entertaining to watch, cast, and produce - but sparing himself another stressful game.
In korea, players are responsible for providing entertainment, naniwa decided not to do that. GSL saw this and decided they don't want someone who would do that in their tournament which has liabilities (they have to make money, they have to have an audience, more money from more of an audience, entertaining games keep big audiences). Perfectly reasonable.
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