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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15353 Posts
December 14 2011 10:34 GMT
#481
Guilty. I switched to Z because Terran was just way too fucking hard to play (and got boring). ZvT is the most ridiculous roflraping now. Terran seems to be just hopeless on low levels vs Zerg.

Still have no clue how to play against P though.
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s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:40:29
December 14 2011 10:39 GMT
#482
I personally am pretty bored with the current state of the game to be perfectly honest which is why i haven't played in weeks . I need something new .

I only play Terran and tbh besides some FFA haven't even played the other races and don't even intend to do so i just need a break . I still enjoy watching tournaments but playing not so much.
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
December 14 2011 10:41 GMT
#483
Terran here.

I dont play a lot cause its freaking hard (im meching only) and the patches wont make it easier for me and my style. Also the Laddermaps are old - very old.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
December 14 2011 10:41 GMT
#484
On December 14 2011 19:34 zatic wrote:
Guilty. I switched to Z because Terran was just way too fucking hard to play (and got boring). ZvT is the most ridiculous roflraping now. Terran seems to be just hopeless on low levels vs Zerg.

Still have no clue how to play against P though.

what do you consider low levels
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yorkey
Profile Joined February 2011
England69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:45:26
December 14 2011 10:41 GMT
#485
I've recently moved away from Terran, I pretty much played terran right up until about a month ago. I made my way up through the lower leagues and found terran fitted me quite well, i felt comfy playing them. I think what made it this way was the fact i could macro slightly better bronze and silver players and this gave me the ability to harrass, and even if i failed to do much i could still be ahead which is what made terran fun for me. But as i got to gold/plat players i found my macro was below or on par with them and i couldn't get away with the little terran 'tricks' so this forced me to play a macro game. My macro game seemed like i kept falling behind when playing terran, it felt like i needed to constantly harrass or have a timing attack planned just to keep up. This also ment it forced me to always be thinking how I was playing and not take into account what they were doing, for example i would find myself pushing hard down one path without even reacting to what he was doing as i felt i had to be harrassing or needed to get the timing attack to do damage, where they would scout what i was doing and counter it.
I found playing against zerg really hard for me, i love to make alot of marines but they would also just kill me with baleings and if i went mech they would tear my base to part with mutas while i teched up.

So I switched to Protoss for a few games and enjoyed them but wasn't getting the success i was after and they didn't really fit my style. So about 3 weeks ago i swapped over to zerg.
To start with I only swapped to the other races for a bit of fun and to just see what happened but now after playing zerg for a bit it's really helped me to reset my mind. By this I mean I now scout correctly, i react to what they're doing which is an important part of a zerg. I win games now because i assess what they are doing and then chose my tech path. My macro is good enough to beat plat players but it's just my decition making and planning that let me down which i've found has improved dramatically while playing zerg.
I feel I have more map control, I feel safer and my ecomey is generally better with zerg than with Terran. This could all change if I do continue to climb the ladder but right now this is why i play zerg.
Terran is now my fave match up, probably because i knew what i hated when playing against zerg and i just do it back to them
My win rate is so much higher now and i've climbed much higher than i was able to now i'm playing zerg.
dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
December 14 2011 10:46 GMT
#486
stick to Terran like a man
yes
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
December 14 2011 10:47 GMT
#487
Yeah I do agree and it makes me sad, always sooo much fun to crush terran :D Ah well for a time I wasn't really playing any protoss for like 2 weeks, it will balance itself out again and we will see more terrans again.
ToInfinity
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands61 Posts
December 14 2011 10:51 GMT
#488
On December 14 2011 19:23 Starcraftmazter wrote:
I agree, I'm terran and I'm just sick of playing the most underpowered race while protoss and zerg get constant buffs.

It's too hard, why bother. Just play baby races (zerg, protoss) and win.


you honestly think nerfing the best race is bad?
humbre
Profile Joined August 2011
353 Posts
December 14 2011 10:52 GMT
#489
to terrans who want to switch read:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119254
always keeps me motivated to keep playing T ^^
Wasteweiser
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada522 Posts
December 14 2011 10:56 GMT
#490
Big reason i stopped playing was the frustration of losing to lesser skilled toss players. TvP is an utterly horrible matchup in masters and couldn't stand it anymore. I'll definitly going to play again once finals are done but i dont look forward to this matchup. Die hard terran btw.
Obitus.243
Entteri
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland108 Posts
December 14 2011 11:08 GMT
#491
Less TvT=more fun for me. Now lets see what's left? Trying to all in tosses before lategame and then those TvZ games that can be actually fun. IMO the fact that 2/3 matchups are really stressful and disliked by most people might have something to do with it.
Rybaia
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:42:34
December 14 2011 11:36 GMT
#492
I recently playedTerran on my other account to try the "next" race (I've already tryed P and Z). For me Terran was super fun at the beginning due to the amount of damage that you can do whit things like drops and multy prong attacks.
"Ok now I wanna drop this Toss in the main since his army is out of position" *snipes the robo + an upgrading forge and leavs with the medivacs on red health* "Wow that was cool, it felt very good and now since he's in the main I can snipe his Gold Nexus" *kills the nexus* "Man this is soo much fun".
But the anfter 2 weeks of pure Terran I felt like I was doing always the same boring stuff... Stuff that you can also try to do with the other races that already have alot of different fun features that T doesn't have. I had the same results, when it comes down to win percentage, with T that I had with P and Z so I didn't felt the frustration that most of you guys talk about (but also I'm just a high plat/low diamond player on my accounts so I think it's different in this case), but what didn't make me want to continue play with T was was the that the race became stale for me in a short period of time.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
December 14 2011 11:57 GMT
#493
Have in mind that most players are playing just casually and they are bad. When they play Terran in the lower leagues they probably feel more bad because they get crushed and losing isn't fun. Why would the avarage Joe play Terran in his small amount of sc2 games per week and get crushed and shit up on for playing Terran when he can play the more forgiving Z and P, have all his hatches on the same hotkey and spend all his larva in a second or just press W for warping in units. To controll CC, barracks, factory and starport and produce units the whole time with 4 hotkeys is hard to learn and scares away people when their opponents can have an easier time making units.

Also have in mind that Terran got nothing cool in sc2. Zerg have it's swarm and all that, Protoss is shiny and have cool high tech stuff as storm and lazer pew pew. In sc1 Terran had an awesome fucking siege tanks killing your shit with awesome sound effects.

It's just like in sc1. There was/is so many Protoss players in the lower ranks because they are much easier at that level while Terran is fucking hard not do die with.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
December 14 2011 11:59 GMT
#494
I played T at first and got bored. Switch to protoss having alot more fun :D.

Also I hated banelings in TvZ in and tedious tank lines in TvT.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Treziel
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
December 14 2011 12:44 GMT
#495
The race distributions according to SC2ranks for EU and NA have swung even more - after reading this thread I felt like checking them so:

EU:
Plat: Z: 35.36% P: 32.42% T: 24.02%
Dia: Z: 36.26% P: 32.49% T: 25.14%
Mas: Z: 34.62% P: 34.30% T: 27.27%

NA:
Plat: Z: 33.64% P: 31.78% T: 24.48%
Dia: Z: 36.84% P: 31.86% T: 23.90%
Mas: Z: 34.42% P: 32.73% T: 28.00%

The swarm seems to be infesting many terrans
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 14 2011 12:54 GMT
#496
Well I agree with the boring part, but only for tvp, MMM is so very dull to play and watch. Not being able to use the flagship unit of tank in late-mid to late game in that matchup feels like a huge blunder by blizzard to me. Which is why i'm just casually playing protoss until hots come out, can have a lot more variance in army compositions to stave off boredom.
shadowboxer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States224 Posts
December 14 2011 13:01 GMT
#497
As blizzard slowly phases out cheesy shit and terran having the ability to throw countless amounts of shit at other races without actually ever being behind, people stop playing the race. Terran as a race is amazing as korean and european terran show us all the time, but it's falling off on ladder because people can't get away with as many stupid decisions and early cheese that's never actually all-in like they used to. People either want to have fun or get fast, free wins on ladder; they have no intention of improving. Good zerg and tosses stopped laddering a while ago, good terrans have started to do the same because laddering is no longer an ego booster for the race like it was.

Outside of laddering, Terran is still the best race with the most potential and highest skill cap.
"Hear that? That's God laughing at your plans."
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 13:05:50
December 14 2011 13:02 GMT
#498
That's why I'm always playing so few Terrans nowadays!

A shame really cause XvT matchups are way more fun to play then XvZ/XvP.

With the exception of TvZ anyway.

Can't blame them though since i did the same xD. Switched T to random. I just couldn't enjoy TvP....

I might start playing Terran again sometime though, maybe in HOTS

On December 14 2011 22:01 shadowboxer wrote:
As blizzard slowly phases out cheesy shit and terran having the ability to throw countless amounts of shit at other races without actually ever being behind, people stop playing the race. Terran as a race is amazing as korean and european terran show us all the time, but it's falling off on ladder because people can't get away with as many stupid decisions and early cheese that's never actually all-in like they used to. People either want to have fun or get fast, free wins on ladder; they have no intention of improving. Good zerg and tosses stopped laddering a while ago, good terrans have started to do the same because laddering is no longer an ego booster for the race like it was.

Outside of laddering, Terran is still the best race with the most potential and highest skill cap.


Good Z and P stopped laddering?! Dude that is the complete opposite of the truth. Most of the people who stop with SC2 are casual low levels. I don't agree with anything you say, what are you basing it on?
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
December 14 2011 13:04 GMT
#499
I find both T and P boring. Playing random feels like a job.
Xadar
Profile Joined October 2010
497 Posts
December 14 2011 13:06 GMT
#500
On December 14 2011 19:41 Tppz! wrote:
Terran here.

I dont play a lot cause its freaking hard (im meching only) and the patches wont make it easier for me and my style. Also the Laddermaps are old - very old.

thats not really a valid point, cause the ladder system makes it so that you have 50% winrate. this means if you really play a harder race, you get matched against opponents who you still have a fair winning chance.

On topic: i noticed this too, and ive been playing with the idea of being terran again for some time now, maybe ill switch back soon.
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