What is the Most Elite Special Forces Unit? - Page 19
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Syben
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semantics
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On November 29 2011 12:59 travis wrote: what a stupid argument, which is entirely based in semantics you rang?? | ||
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
Source: a one hour Discovery Channel special on special military units, which qualifies me to argue about this for 15 pages using 3000 word long posts and Wikipedia citations. | ||
Deleted User 3420
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On November 29 2011 13:21 Syben wrote: I don't think that the United States Air Force Pararescue has been given enough credit in this thread. They have the highest fail rate of any U.S Special Forces branch and are utilized by all other special forces branches for missions. Yep.. If anything it could be argued the PJs are more elite than seals, as (i believe) it's basically the same program with a little bit extra training. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 29 2011 10:05 RabidSeagull wrote: Sigh. Stop. Everyone needs to start at least using google before posting misinformation. Firstly, the marines and the navy are SEPARATE entities, they are associated a lot because the marines embark on navy vessels a lot and work with the navy but they are totally separate groups of the US military. SEALs are under the navy. Green berets are NOT delta force, a delta force soldier shits on the green berets in terms of skill and difficulty of the missions they carry out, both of these groups are in the army though so I can understand the confusion. Spetsnaz does still exist technically it's simply a russian word that literally means 'special forces', the group that most people associate the word with doesn't exist anymore, although I'm sure some form of it still operates today. SAS soldiers are rarely considered as talented as their American counterparts such as delta force or the SEALs, etc Nowadays most of these groups work as anti-terrorism groups by carrying out special missions, it doesn't really matter which one is the most talented they all have retartedly difficult training and are all extremely talented, these are the type of human beings that push the limits of the word 'impossible' and everyone should be grateful for their sacrifice and work. This post wasn't directed at you, Travis, it was directed at all the other morons confusing people, although a lot of special ops group work in secrecy so the confusion is totally understandable. Hope this helped. stop arguing about whose more or less elite because they are all gods right after i take a shit on the sas :DDD | ||
xAPOCALYPSEx
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On November 29 2011 13:21 Syben wrote: I don't think that the United States Air Force Pararescue has been given enough credit in this thread. They have the highest fail rate of any U.S Special Forces branch and are utilized by all other special forces branches for missions. Isn't that a bad thing? xD but yeah PJs are badass | ||
Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On November 29 2011 14:36 travis wrote: If anything it could be argued the PJs are more elite than seals what is this i don't even | ||
mentallyafk
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
On November 29 2011 14:57 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote: Isn't that a bad thing? xD but yeah PJs are badass Im confused about that statement too. | ||
Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
a school's difficulty is usually determined by the % of people that fail/quit. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:07 Nitrogen wrote: a school's difficulty is usually determined by the % of people that fail/quit. except that that clearly comments more on the teaching than the difficulty. calc 101 would have 100% fail if the teachers just didnt teach you the shit. but once you know it its just applying rules you know to problems. anything where you have to take what you know and apply it to a weird situation is hard no matter how well youve been taught. | ||
Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:09 turdburgler wrote: except that that clearly comments more on the teaching than the difficulty. calc 101 would have 100% fail if the teachers just didnt teach you the shit. but once you know it its just applying rules you know to problems. anything where you have to take what you know and apply it to a weird situation is hard no matter how well youve been taught. most of the failures in tough military schools are people quitting because they can't handle it. if someone fails for some other reason (hurt, can't perform a certain task properly) they can usually get recycled and do it again (depending on the school). | ||
overt
United States9006 Posts
I used to live near Fort Bragg. My dad isn't with the military or anything but we lived in a neighborhood where pretty much everyone else was. Our next door neighbor was almost definitely in Delta Force and he was the largest most scary person I have ever seen. Like, if he wanted to kill me I think he could do it without breaking a sweat. We never knew for sure if he was in Delta or what because they aren't allowed to tell you or anyone they know exactly what they do. I've also seen documentaries about Mogadishu where US Rangers (who aren't small fries themselves) said that when they once saw a Delta Force soldier go down they became terrified because to them the Delta boys were considered unkillable gods. I'm not sure if they're the "most elite" but they're certainly the most mysterious and scariest of all the other special forces units in the world. The very fact that the military is so hush hush about their very existence and the sheer size of America's military endeavors should leave anyone with doubts that the Delta Force is pretty fucking terrifying. | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:11 Nitrogen wrote: most of the failures in tough military schools are people quitting because they can't handle it. if someone fails for some other reason (hurt, can't perform a certain task properly) they can usually get recycled and do it again (depending on the school). im not saying this isnt true, merely that fail rate isnt enough info to base something on | ||
iSometric
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:22 turdburgler wrote: im not saying this isnt true, merely that fail rate isnt enough info to base something on it isn't, but that's how it's generally judged. | ||
overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 29 2011 15:24 iSometric wrote: Saw a doc. on the SAS saying they were the "most elite." I guess over delta? I don't think any special forces unit could match the record that the SAS has. The SAS was also the first modern "special forces" unit. So, yeah, if you judge it by that they probably beat everyone. However Delta Force doesn't get credit for anything it does because the US military still refuses to acknowledge that they exist. There's just simply no barometers for people to judge whether or not Delta Force is the most elite unit. Because of how little information there is on them that leads me to believe that they must do some scary shit. | ||
b0ngt0ss
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On November 29 2011 15:13 overt wrote: Delta Force by leaps and bounds. The US military still won't acknowledge that Delta Force exists. They refer to them as mere "special forces" or sometimes "agents." They do the shit that the US wants to be able to deny. And since the US has a hand in everything there is no way of knowing what all they've done. Honestly the only groups I could even see coming close to them in sheer badassery would be the British SAS or Russian Spetsnaz. I used to live near Fort Bragg. My dad isn't with the military or anything but we lived in a neighborhood where pretty much everyone else was. Our next door neighbor was almost definitely in Delta Force and he was the largest most scary person I have ever seen. Like, if he wanted to kill me I think he could do it without breaking a sweat. We never knew for sure if he was in Delta or what because they aren't allowed to tell you or anyone they know exactly what they do. I've also seen documentaries about Mogadishu where US Rangers (who aren't small fries themselves) said that when they once saw a Delta Force soldier go down they became terrified because to them the Delta boys were considered unkillable gods. I'm not sure if they're the "most elite" but they're certainly the most mysterious and scariest of all the other special forces units in the world. The very fact that the military is so hush hush about their very existence and the sheer size of America's military endeavors should leave anyone with doubts that the Delta Force is pretty fucking terrifying. is it weird that i got a broner from reading this? | ||
MethodSC
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NEXUS6
United States413 Posts
On November 27 2011 17:43 TheKefka wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 27 2011 17:37 Diamond wrote: I don't know who is the most badass but the Russian Spetznaz for sure have the most gangster training. ![]() In mother Russia,axe throws you. I loled. | ||
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